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  1. #401

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    Hello I am new to posting in this forum but have been reading New Nakama theories for years now.

    As with a lot of things in One Piece you can never say that something will 100% happen, but I do believe that CARROT has the highest chance as of right now to join the crew.
    Well that was at least until the latest two chapters that fully introduced us to YAMATO. Especially the newest chapter increased her chances by a lot and places her at the top of the list together with Carrot.

    I want to mention this early on: It is absolutely possible that BOTH of them will join at the end of the arc, so one joining doesn’t mean that the other won’t join.


    First I want to talk about Yamato because it is more relevant to the current chapters:
    Honestly we don’t know a lot about her so I don’t even know how to feel about her as a character. I guess I would be ok with her joining but there is a lot of stuff that Oda needs to explain and show in the remaining chapters of this arc and I just don’t know if he will have the time to fully show us Yamato during all the fighting and chaos that is going to happen very soon.

    What I like about her is her design (besides her face which is not exactly the same as Namis but still too similar, I think Oda could have done something more unique here), I like that she looks to be a strong female character who uses a club. Her interactions with Luffy have been fun. Her connections with Oden, Kaido and Ace have potential. It will be interesting to see what Oda plans to do with her knowledge about Odens logbook.

    What I dislike/need to see more of her: She needs to be more than just an Oden fangirl. She doesn’t feel like her own character, just another Wano character that constantly praises Oden. Oden wanted to open Wanos borders so I want to also do that. Oden wanted to set sail and leave Wano so I also want to do that. Oden dressed like this so I am also going to wear similar clothes, etc. and she didn't even really know him personally.

    I want to know what Yamato herself wants to do, I want her to follow a dream that she herself has chosen and believes in and not just because Oden did it. If she herself truly dreams about opening Wanos borders then I am fine with that but it needs to be more personal to her. I need to see what she was like before she became an Oden fangirl. I need to see her interact with Momonosuke, the Scabbards and the rest of the Straw Hats. I mentioned that I find it interesting that she knows the contents of Odens logbook but at the same time I hope that she doesn’t know anything too important for the journey and the mystery of the One Piece because I want all the Straw Hats to discover everything about it together with the readers (and we also all know how Luffy feels about spoilers).

    I also really dislike how Oda introduced Yamato. The character still feels like a last minute introduction to the arc that originally wasn’t planned. I don’t understand why Oda hasn’t teased Yamato before the character was first mentioned like ten chapters ago. Oda loves to foreshadow characters, just look at how he did it with Pudding. There could have been many different ways to at least hint at Yamato. She could have been mentioned in Tamas backstory as “Ace and that other person really helped me”. Or Yamato could have been the Witching Hour Boy. Or he could have teased her in a completely different way. Right now it just kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    It will be really interesting to see what Oda has planned for the character. With her asking Luffy to join his crew and him not really accepting or denying her request, for now nobody knows what will happen, but that request alone does raise her chances by a lot. I just hope that Oda has enough time to fully explore her character and make her fit naturally into the rest of the Straw Hats if she does indeed join them.


    Now let’s switch over to Carrot:
    I think a lot has already been said about Carrot multiple times and at this point I don’t really want to bring up the same points once again. I still do believe that she will join the crew at the end of the Wano arc to fulfill her personal dream of seeing the world and to pursue Pedros will of the “New Dawn”. For now I mainly want to talk about three points about Carrot:

    1 ) The last bit still missing for me:
    Carrot NEEDS to fight Perospero in this arc. It doesn’t matter if she wins solo, loses, has help from other people, etc. but she needs to confront him about Pedros death. The setup is already there with Perosperos alone traveling to Onigashima in search of Big Mom and Carrot being at the exact same location as Big Mom.

    I also think the thing that Marco saw will be something different and why include Marco in the arc just to fight against Perospero?

    Anyway if Carrot ends up meeting Perospero I expect us to get another flashback about Carrot and Pedro. More details about how he trained her controlling her Sulong form, how they got closer and what he might have already told her about the New Dawn. I don’t think that this part needs to be very long, one or two chapters mixed with other stuff should be enough. Carrots tragic backstory IS the Whole Cake Island arc which had all the parts you can normally find in a Straw Hats backstory, we just need to see more from her perspective how much Pedro meant to her and what her feelings are about the New Dawn. A conversation with Inuarashi and Nekomamushi about this would also be good (also Nekomamushi still doesn't know about Pedros death).

    2 ) If Carrot doesn’t join, then what is the point of her character?
    This is the big question that I would ask Oda if I could. If Carrot doesn’t end up joining the crew than what is the point of including her in WCI? Why is she still drawn next to the Straw Hats during the attack on Onigashima? Why show her so many times in the lookout position? Why give her Pedros will and set her up to confront Perospero?

    If he wanted to make Pedros death more emotional than he could have just rewritten the WCI arc a little and have Pekoms (his sworn brother) directly witness his death, Pedro could have told one of the Straw Hats like Brook about the New Dawn when he died, he could have used Pedro or Pekoms to showcase Sulong for the first time. And as soon as she reunited with the Minks in Wano he could have just drawn her alongside the Mink forces, but Oda still decides to draw her next to the Straw Hats for some reason.

    In my opinion it would be pretty bad if Wano just ends with her quietly going back to Zou with the other Minks after all the time and panels that Oda has invested in her. The “New Nox Pirates” with her as the captain also feels pretty bad considering that she has no idea about sailing or being a pirate.

    3 ) The comparison with Jinbei:
    I have long believed in the 10 + 1 theory about the total numbers of Straw Hats in the crew, however admittedly Yamato makes me doubt this if both Carrot and Yamato end up joining the crew.

    Anyway so I always thought that Jinbei and Carrot would be the perfect final two crewmembers:

    Both are from different races than all the other Straw Hats. One is a Fish-Man the other a Mink. One lives at the bottom of the ocean, the other in the sky on top of a giant elephant. Both the Fish-Man and the Minks have a deep history and both grew up in places that have/had one of the Road Poneglyphs. One has connections to the sun (Sun Pirates) the other has connections to the moon (Sulong). One is an experienced pirate who knows the pirate world and the ocean and the other is a complete newbie to the pirate world who thinks you can just sail to one place and be back home before it gets dark. You have the helmsman steering the ship and the lookout spotting new islands and dangers.


    To end this pretty long post I just want to throw out some smaller things concerning the Next Nakama discussion:
    • I honestly don’t think that Momonosuke or Tama have any chance of joining and yes it is simply because they are children and have no place in the dangers that the crew will face in the future
    • Small thing about Carrot which I didn’t know where to fit in: I can see Carrot sneaking onto the Sunny once again after Wano without telling anybody.
    • I think the positions of the crew members are overrated. Just look at the helmsman position. The Straw Hats have handled many different situations just fine with Chopper/Franky being the one behind the helm, but Jinbei needed a role on the ship and the helmsman position was free and fit his character and only became relevant the moment Jinbei fully joined the crew. Carrot would be the lookout because it is the first real thing we see her do in Zou with her jumping ability, she is used to being awake for a long time, carrots are good for your eyes (doesn’t matter if that saying is true or not) and Oda has drawn her multiple times in that position. Yamato can just become the logbook writer of the Straw Hats if you really need to give every character a position.
    • Carrots name is absolutely fine and not “unoriginal” like many people seem to think. Remember that the main audience for One Piece is Japanese and not English speaking. Jinbei is a type of traditional Japanese clothing and whale shark in Japanese is literally called Jinbeizame so his name is also pretty “unoriginal” considering he is just named after his fish-man-type.
    • The Straw Hat details like their color, real life country, family role etc. are definitely things that Oda doesn’t really think about when creating a character. We are running out of colors, at this point we have two Japanese looking characters (Jinbei and Zoro) and with Yamato a third one
    • Personally I think that Wano is the last arc for a new crewmember to join. The defeat of the first Yonko is the moment where the whole crew should be present and after Wano there are not that many arcs left and it would feel weird to have a character join the crew, who missed so much of the journey and only is there for the end.

  2. #402

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    Quote Originally Posted by otakufan View Post
    I would assume Yamato is aware of that fact.

    News from the outside world doesn't make it to the general populace of Wano, but Kaidou and his circle have plenty of reasons to keep themselves informed. The deaths of Whitebeard and Ace was a massive deal, and something that Kaidou himself tried to get involved in before Shanks put a stop to it - I cannot imagine that the topic WOULDN'T have been discussed ad nauseam on Onigashima for quite some time.

    And I don't get the impression that Yamato has spent his/her life locked in the proverbial tower - the Tobi Roppo and even many of the low-level Beast Pirates seem to know him/her on sight, so s/he's been around, even if leaving Onigashima itself wasn't an option due to explode-y-cuffs.
    Yeah, for that reason I believe that it possibly doesn't have to be addressed. For Tama, it served a purpose, but for Yamato, the effect wouldn't even feel the same

  3. #403

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    Like Robby said in some panels, Yamato is pretty distinct, but in some cases she looks Nami-ish... If Oda would just add some sort of Kaidou-ish facial structure, I'd be 100% on the train..
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

  4. #404

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    Just did up a thing to show how much she looks just like Nami. If you give her the same hair and eye color, its identical.

    However, if she has her father's eye color, yellow, that starts to make a difference pretty quickly. And Oda IS drawing her pupils more open while Nami's tend to be more filled. So, that could be a distinguishing feature, but like the eyebrows its one of those "side by side" things that doesn't really stand on its own and could be lost panel to panel..

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    That said, we know Oda tends to not think about character colors too much until he has to, (and he's apparently spent years trying to figure out Jinbe's theme color after two shades of blue were already taken) and he works in a black and white medium... so designing the character to be distinct only in color is still a no go.

    But if she turns out to have purple or white hair I'm on board. (Or Kaidou's darker skin tone.) Blue or blonde I'm out.
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  5. #405

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    Looking like Nami, styling like Oden, fighting like Kaido, is there anything unique about her.

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  6. #406

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    Yeah; Luffy doesn't need an "Oden" since he has Robin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmamentHero View Post
    Like Robby said in some panels, Yamato is pretty distinct, but in some cases she looks Nami-ish... If Oda would just add some sort of Kaidou-ish facial structure, I'd be 100% on the train..
    One thing I noticed is that Yamato has distinct lines extending from the lower portion of his/her eyes. These could simply be eyelashes or they could smaller versions of the lines/scars/wrinkles that can be seen extending from Kaidou's eyes in close up shots of his face, but either way, they are something that is not present on either Nami or any of the commonly-referenced "Nami-Clones" (Vivi, Rebecca, Shirahoshi).

    Not much, to be sure, but something that can be used to distinguish Yamato in close-up shots where his/her horns and hair are out-of-frame.

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  8. #408

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Just did up a thing to show how much she looks just like Nami. If you give her the same hair and eye color, its identical.

    However, if she has her father's eye color, yellow, that starts to make a difference pretty quickly. And Oda IS drawing her pupils more open while Nami's tend to be more filled. So, that could be a distinguishing feature, but like the eyebrows its one of those "side by side" things that doesn't really stand on its own and could be lost panel to panel..



    That said, we know Oda tends to not think about character colors too much until he has to, and he works in a black and white medium... so designing the character to be distinct only in color is still a no go.

    But if she turns out to have purple or white hair I'm on board. Blue or blonde I'm out. Green would have to be a distinct shade from Zoro's, which is made difficult by the anime effing it up.
    Would white and scarlet red work as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by otakufan View Post
    One thing I noticed is that Yamato has distinct lines extending from the lower portion of his/her eyes. These could simply be eyelashes or they could smaller versions of the lines/scars/wrinkles that can be seen extending from Kaidou's eyes in close up shots of his face, but either way, they are something that is not present on either Nami or any of the commonly-referenced "Nami-Clones" (Vivi, Rebecca, Shirahoshi).

    Not much, to be sure, but something that can be used to distinguish Yamato in close-up shots where his/her horns and hair are out-of-frame.
    Yeah, i think if Oda had highlight just a bit more for the jaw and cheeks, I'd be like sold..hardcore sold...lol bc shes interesting outside of the face features
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

  9. #409

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmamentHero View Post
    Would white and scarlet red work as well?
    If the black ink is supposed to indicate a color, like it did with Inazuma, yeah probably.

    I hate that this character is going to boil down to how they look in color because that really really shouldn't be the qualifier in a black and white series.


    At this point I gotta go with "Oda is trying to falsely hype readers" but I have no idea. Strongest contender in ages and they... look like that.
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  10. #410

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    Yeah, I honestly agree... my gut tells me she might join.. sigh
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

  11. #411

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    Well, Yamato isn't 1:1 copy of Nami if you analyze their features in detail seperately but the fact that I see readers pointing the uncanny resemblance on every website is telling enough.
    Nami can be draw with more "open" in the eyes
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    We know Oda can make way more unique looking characters
    Robin, Shirley truly have distinct eyes from Nami readers could never confuse them no matter the expression.
    I know Oda is limited when it comes to pretty girls, but it's hard to believe he wouldn't have tried more for a straw hat.
    And I don't think colors are that important in a b&w manga
    Maybe I'm wrong and Oda thinks she is distinct enough (but seeing how wild he can be with design... I doubt it) but for now I believe Oda is just baiting the readers.

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    Also the 2 facefaults Yamato made this chapter really don't help in making her stand out

  12. #412

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    Even tho he looks like Nami, it isn't a knock for me. If it did matter, giving him anything close to Kaido's skin tone would be more than enough. The horns, height, hoop earrings and eyebrows are already way more than enough to differentiate. The skin tone would be the icing on the cake.

    I just thought about this. Has Nami ever had hoop earrings before or was that just fan art I saw somewhere? I think she had earrings, but probably not hoop earrings.

  13. #413

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    Nami tends to have pearl earrings. For unique Hancock has those snake earrings to stand out... doesn't stop her from looking like timeskip Robin though.



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  14. #414

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    Those faces still looks so.... Unnatural lol I get the point tho
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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    Guys, what if

    The next crewmate looks like Nami, and that's it.

    And we'll just have to live with it for the rest of the manga?

    People are saying it makes them be against the character joining, and I understand where they are coming from. But I don't think this is the kind of thing that is likely to stop Oda, especially since it seems to be a limitation of Oda's skill rather than a design choice.

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    Here's what I would have added:

    1. A wild, mane-like hairstyle.
    2. More unique-looking eyes. Maybe slitted?
    3. Fangs.

  17. #417

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhenja View Post
    Looking like Nami, styling like Oden, fighting like Kaido, is there anything unique about her.
    Sanji fights like Zeff, is there anything unique about him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon D. Luffy View Post
    Guys, what if

    The next crewmate looks like Nami, and that's it.

    And we'll just have to live with it for the rest of the manga?

    People are saying it makes them be against the character joining, and I understand where they are coming from. But I don't think this is the kind of thing that is likely to stop Oda, especially since it seems to be a limitation of Oda's skill rather than a design choice.
    Well I'd be wrong then. But Oda did pay attention to make the straw hats all distinct from each other, especially since grand line so I have reasons to think it matters in his mind.

  19. #419

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    Don't get me wrong.. I still lean towards her joining and if she has a unique 2.9 DF, I'm 1000% on board. Bc I do like her already outside of the face issue
    Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfunk View Post
    Well I'd be wrong then. But Oda did pay attention to make the straw hats all distinct from each other, especially since grand line so I have reasons to think it matters in his mind.
    Well but only 2 of them were female and apparently they are the only two female faces he can draw nowadays.

    He made sure to make them unique, but then every other side-character looked like them to the point where we can't distinguish Robin from Viola or Rebecca fron Nami easily in Dressrosa.

    In that sense, Nami and Robin's face became retroactively less unique after the timeskip.

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