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  • Yamato

    125 45.45%
  • Shinobu

    1 0.36%
  • An Akazaya Samurai (Kin'emon, Kiku, etc.)

    1 0.36%
  • Momo

    8 2.91%
  • Tama

    7 2.55%
  • Carrot

    58 21.09%
  • A Supernova (Law, Drake, Bonney, etc.)

    7 2.55%
  • Caribou

    4 1.45%
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    22 8.00%
  • None: Jinbe is the final Straw Hat

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  1. #2401

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    New Franky is acceptable when he reverts to his original hairstyle. I will always miss the Popeye arms, but what just doesn't work is the shaved head. He's a back alley mobster, not a hooligan.
    Well, it's not like he ever uses the shaved head look...

    but I like it actually.

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    I love the Merry but it was waay too small and not believable for a crew of 10. I also love the Sunny so no problem for me. I think it fits the crew and really fits Franky/Luffy.

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    New Franky is acceptable when he reverts to his original hairstyle. I will always miss the Popeye arms, but what just doesn't work is the shaved head. He's a back alley mobster, not a hooligan.
    You don't like his 50 other hairstyles like a whale, a cannon, french braids, a gun, or beetle horns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post

    You don't like his 50 other hairstyles like a whale, a cannon, french braids, a gun, or beetle horns?
    The Afro is acceptable, as always.

    The other stuff is so-so or bad. Ace Ventura or bust!

  4. #2404

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deicide View Post
    It's interesting that the countdown images for Chapter 1,000, except for Jinbe, every crewmate is being presented in the panel of his very first interaction with Luffy.

    Could this mean something, or is it an arbitrary rule? Could Chapter 1,000's cover spread reveal the 11th Straw Hat? Place your bets!

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    I'm a bit late esp since AP's been down but I see a lot of people saying that Jinbe's color is Brown but it reminds me of an old theory of mine. Brook's color isn't Black but B&W which reminds me of B&W photo filters and it makes me wonder if Jinbe is Sepia. Probably a stretch but
    Red/Green/Blue = Additive Primary colors (Luffy/Zoro/Sanji)
    Cyan/Magenta(Pink?)/Yellow = Subtractive Primary colors (Franky/Chopper/Usopp)
    Orange/Purple = Non-primary colors (Nami/Robin)
    B&W/Sepia = Photo filters/tones

  5. #2405

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    So if yamato is nakama, that gives a hint to whatever the last BB pirate could be. Also ancient giant/oni roots or the opposite...

    Could san juan wolf be some ancient giant failed experiment... instead of fishman like people predicted.

  6. #2406

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    I think there are three possibilities for how Yamatos wish of going out to sea can be realized:

    1) Becoming a Straw Hat
    2) Taking control of the remaining Beast Pirates
    3) Becoming Momonosukes bodyguard/advisor/scabbard/friend. Opening up the borders of Wano will take a lot of time. First Wano needs to be fixed from the inside and after that Momo or representatives of Wano need to set sail to other countries to forge trade deals and political connections. Yamato could also start leading Wanos Navy which might connect to point 2.

  7. #2407

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    New Franky works because all the focus now is on Franky Shogun and robot stuff and his design fits that thematically. I've pretty much warmed up on him by now.

    New Robin could work if her personality hadn't got less interesting like it did. It's hard to associate her design with her doing anything cool because she rarely does now.

    New Chopper sucks. His personality is still good but the design just exists to sell plushies and nothing more.

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    Yamato maybe has a Nami like face but he/she is so much more fleshed out and interesting compared to the likes as Carrot (is with us since Zou) that they are no doubts as with Franky at EL.

    And no... He/She already said he/she wants to go out on sea like Oden. So I doubt he/she will suddenly stay back to bodyguard Momo.

    Momo as good Shogun would encourage him/her to live his/her dream

  9. #2409

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    New Franky only "works" if you forcibly repress the memory of the superior old Franky

  10. #2410

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    New Franky is clearly designed for Full 100% Pirate Docking Maneuver now that the full crew has been assembled.

    Head: Chopper
    Neck: Luffy
    Left Shoulder: Nami
    Right Shoulder: Brook
    Chest: Jinbe
    Left Arm: Usopp
    Right Arm: Robin
    Crotch: Franky
    Left Leg: Sanji
    Right Leg: Zoro

  11. #2411

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    Yamato coming in to save Momo and Shinobu improved Yamato's chances in joining which lessen Momo's and Shinobu's chances. This is because the likelihood of additional Strawhats beyond Jinbe/Jimbei is a minimal given the "5 years" time frame Oda gave that One Piece will end for character development AND IFF there is another spot for Strawhat, they must pass the "many laws" of the "crewmate requirements" which one is being unique and capable in dangerous situations. Shining in the spotlight in a sense. Yamato is abouts to show out! This is Kaido's child! By blood as far as we know. With whom? Flashback upcoming???

    Yamato took the lead from Carrot...for now...unless Sulong Carrot makes an appearance against Perospero. Which she will in my opinion. But I don't think she can beat him by herself. Carrot would need Wanda's help and that still might not be enough. I mean could Sulong Carrot defeat Daifuku? Debatable. Is Sulong Carrot going to hold the spotlight or will Sulong Wanda take over? Wait and see. The discussions will heat up real quick.

    Ninja Tama is no where still. Where is Caribou? Tag team upcoming!?

    The Nine Scabbards are being too much a team. No individual really sticks out.

  12. #2412

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    The entire thing with Prospero being the ONLY Big Mom pirate pretty much settles it for me that Carrot won't be following after. Oda's setting that fight up now to finish that thread because he won't have the opportunity later.

    If her entire crew was going to join in and make things crazy at a bad moment, then there wasn't any reason to bring Prosepero in alone ahead of time and spend multiple chapters making excuses to get him there. . ANd also I don't know how they'd all deal with Katakuri joining the fray unless he turned ally which... no.
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    I see it the other way around. Defeating Perospero is the moment I think Carrot's time to shine has come. Pedro wanted to join the pirate king but he was put on the waiting list because his time to shine wasn't yet.

    Now we have Pedro who told Carrot that her time to shine will come. That is why it makes sense to me that she will be accepted in the crew because her time to shine has now come. That would be a logical result after Pedro could not join Roger. Pedro could neither bring the new dawn and see it nor join the pirate king. That's why I think Carrot will join Luffy's crew to bring the new dawn and see it that Pedro wanted to see.

  14. #2414

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
    Right Arm: Robin

    Yeah, I guess she won't mind if it's Jinbe who holds her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    The entire thing with Prospero being the ONLY Big Mom pirate pretty much settles it for me that Carrot won't be following after. Oda's setting that fight up now to finish that thread because he won't have the opportunity later.

    If her entire crew was going to join in and make things crazy at a bad moment, then there wasn't any reason to bring Prosepero in alone ahead of time and spend multiple chapters making excuses to get him there. . ANd also I don't know how they'd all deal with Katakuri joining the fray unless he turned ally which... no.
    Oda opened that thread in the first place with a purpose in mind. He didn't have Pedro die, actually die, simply so another character could get revenge and that be the end of it. The very fact that he's taking the time to revisit Pedro and Carrot's connection shows that there's still something left to be said. Carrot needs to face Peros, and possibly Big Mom, for a darn good reason.

    And there's the funny thing: Carrot didn't specify to Wanda who she saw, or how many, either in English or Japanese. Big Mom and Peros are equally guilty for Pedro's fate, the other family members don't have much say in the matter. Those two are the ones who've gotta answer for that, and Carrot could just as easily have her sights on both of them as she could on just one.
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  16. #2416

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    I find it a bit worrisome that Carrot is being driven to face Perospero so early into the game, literally when none of the SH's are having any official vesus yet.

    Its the same feeling like how the Scabbards are also up there already fighting Kaido, and we know for guaranteed they're going to lose.

  17. #2417

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    After thinking about it more, and I can’t believe I didn’t realize it before, but I think the main reason I’m currently not as inclined to see Carrot as a potential recruit is because of what happened at Zou. Usually, Luffy is the one to defeat some sort of boss character of an arc, which is what significantly helped lay the foundation of Luffy starting a friendship with each of his crew mates, whether it’s because of a deal gone wrong, a lack of confidence, or the boss character getting in the way of the potential recruit by causing complications for them in general.

    I think if Luffy had been the one to kick Jack’s ass back at Zou, then I’d be seeing Carrot more as a potential recruit, but because Zunesha was the one who ended up kicking Jack’s ass, I don’t see it that way as much. Luffy wasn’t even the one who called on Zunesha to kick Jack’s ass, as it was Momo that called on Zunesha to do that.

    That understood, then I suppose me seeing Carrot more as a potential recruit at least partially depends on Luffy kicking Perospero’s ass, as Perospero ended up being the reason Pedro blew himself up and is what compelled Carrot to attempt to avenge him.

    I know that trying to see patterns in the Straw Hat recruitment might be fruitless since Oda can change up any recruitment process there was any time he wants, but if I was asked if I myself saw some sort of pattern, then I guess it would be that.

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    I had speculated it before but it does appear that Yamato is being built up as the Pheasant of Momonosuke's story. Which would explain why such focus has been given to the Yamato and Momonosuke relationship. Similar to how Luffy received strong focus with Momonosuke on Punk Hazard, Yamato now has the opportunity to interact with Momonosuke. As for Yamato being developed as a retainer for Momonosuke, that is possible but given the substantial focus Oda has placed on Yamato and her immense potential to be developed into a character representing more than a protector of Momonosuke I wonder if Oda has other plans for Yamato.

    The coinciding spotlight of Yamato's meeting with Momonosuke alongside the Akazaya Nine's battle against Kaido leaves me very curious. All the Samurai closest to Oden chose not to learn the Oden Nitoryu (two-sword) Style directly from Oden (a sword style Oden had considered to be the greatest there is). Their imitations of it were imperfect and as Kaido stated, weak. With Oden dead and none of the Akazaya Nine learning the two-sword style directly from Oden, does this mean Oden's two-sword style is forgotten? I don't think so. Oda has illustrated Oden's excitement at passing on his sword style to his retainers in the flashback so even when Toki revealed to Oden why none of the Akazaya Nine wanted him to teach his sword style to them, I don't see Oden not leaving any trace of his sword style behind. In all likelihood, Oden wanting to leave the teachings of his sword style behind (for his son and future Samurai), recorded the techniques and training required within his Journal. The “very important things” Yamato mentioned when talking about the journal to Luffy could be the secrets behind Oden’s two-sword style.

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    Yamato may not have fully mastered the Oden two-sword style but I believe considering the admiration and reverence Yamato had for Oden, she would not have not attempted to learn the fighting style of Oden, especially if Oden had noted down the teachings within his journal. We have yet to see what Yamato can do with swords and when that moment arrives when Yamato wields swords, the Oden two-sword style will be reborn. And this is why the current meeting between Yamato and Momonosuke is integral. Momonosuke needs to know who Yamato is and develop sufficient confidence in her and her abilities to help inspire him to make the decision to give his Ame no Habakiri to Yamato. BOTH Enma and Ame no Habakiri will be used against Kaido. And seeing as Zoro won't be getting Ame no Habakiri and none of the Samurai are strong enough to cut Kaido, the only other potential option I can see left is Yamato. Yamato training herself in secret over the past twenty years in the Oden two-sword style would make sense if the teachings are contained within the journal she found in Kuri after Oden's execution. Once Yamato and Momonosuke form a bond which seems inevitable given chapter 994, it also wouldn't be surprising seeing Momonosuke gift Yamato the Ame no Habakiri.

    Kaido stating there will never be a Samurai as monstrous as Oden also raises a flag for me. That expectation, dread and disappointment Kaido has is begging to be challenged. Kaido has yet to meet Zoro (the swordsman the blade Shuisui chose to be its master) and to experience the conviction his daughter holds. I believe those two will remind Kaido of Oden once again as the swords that pierced him twenty years ago, revisit his body with a hunger spanning twenty years. It would additionally be symbolic if Yamato puts down her Kanabo and starts to wield two Samurai swords in front of Kaido illustrating to her father that she chose to follow Oden. Yamato could attain a second sword after defeating Orochi once he transforms into his Yamata no Orochi form - potentially the Ame no Murakumo no Tsurugi.

    Aside from Yamato's relation with Momonosuke, there are a lot more to her character to cover. Yamato has yet to meet Marco and establish the connection she had with Ace. In particular how she introduced herself as Oden to Ace who in turn shared his encounter with Oden on Wano Kuni with Whitebeard and Marco who in turn assumed Oden was alive and thus disregarded attacking Kaido for killing their brother because the Whitebeard Pirates had no idea Oden was killed by Kaido 20 years ago. The only allied characters who left Wano Kuni with knowledge of Oden's death were Inuarashi and Nekomamushi and they opted to remain concealed on Zunesha and wait for twenty years for Momonosuke's return as per Toki's prophecy.

    Beyond those relations, Yamato herself is connected to Kaido who is one of the most relevant players in the New World. While being inspired by Oden and Ace, Yamato may come to be inspired by her father depending on how events play out during this arc. I still believe Kaido will come to respect the concept of "Pirate" after his battle with Luffy and in turn accept Luffy as someone he has no issue with his daughter allying with/following. If Rocks did betray Kaido (and the rest of his crew) in the past by taking advantage of Kaido's belief in him and IF Teach has inherited Rocks's will, there would be relevance in having Yamato stand against the Blackbeard Pirates.

    Furthermore, the current reflection in events playing out between Kaido and Yamato is quite fascinating:

    - Kaido and Yamato against many opponents in their respective areas where they step in to protect their allies (Kaido protecting Jack and Yamato protecting Momonosuke and Shinobu);
    - Oden is central to both their actions but Kaido and Yamato each have contrasting perspectives of Oden. To Kaido, Oden made him hunger for death and likely was the origin of Kaido's suicidal tendencies. In order for Kaido to re-experience the thrill and rush of dancing with death as he did during his battle with Oden, he keeps seeking out methods to place him on the edge of life and death but ultimately those attempts all come up short. To Yamato, Oden and his adventurous life are what inspires Yamato to live and to pursue a life in complete conflict with that of her father's intentions. In short, Oden inspired Kaido to die and Oden inspired Yamato to live.

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    What is especially fascinating about that contrast is if Oden was the reason Kaido ended up trying to commit suicide in order to recreate the feeling of being alive, Yamato may very well be the cause for inspiring Kaido to live. If Yamato does end up reminding Kaido of Oden, what then?

    However events play out, there is potential for Yamato to be developed as a strong ally to the Straw Hat Pirates. If Yamato does end up traveling with them, she may use that opportunity to help master the Oden two-sword style which she will end up teaching to Momonosuke after the crew reach Laugh Tale and the members return to their respective "homes". At the moment, Momonosuke has sufficient retainers for Yamato to need to remain on Wano Kuni after the arc. Plus the "adventurous life" that inspired Yamato wasn't the life of Oden binding himself to one place but the life where he was able to awaken to the freedom existing within the world. After having been bound to Onigashima Island for twenty years, it seems unlike One Piece to continue containing a character to one place, especially a character who has already mentally experienced the wonders awaiting in the world through Oden's journal. And it is that journal that will help Yamato relate to the rest of the Straw Hat Pirates as many of the places Oden visited were the same Islands the Straw Hat Pirates journeyed to during their adventure. I don't believe Oden would have recorded any information about the contents of Laugh Tale in his journal so I don't see it spoiling any of the adventure for Luffy. Most of what we had seen recorded in his journal during the flashback is information the Straw Hat Pirates already know. The one piece of information that may be contained within the journal that may be relevant to the Straw Hat Pirates adventure is the existence of the giant egg present on the Oro Jackson. Can Oden's journal shed light on that?

    Ultimately from my perspective, Wano Kuni seems a too important Island to not have a representative for. In addition to opening Wano to the world, Yamato can go further and help expose it by demonstrating the might of the Samurai and the Oden two-sword style, which would be exciting as so far (apart for the recent chapters with the Akazaya Nine) the Samurai (and Shinobi) have been grossly underwhelming.

    As for Yamato’s obsession with Oden. I believe along with respecting him immensely, Yamato used the identity of “Oden” to hide her own insecurities behind. To Yamato, Oden was strength incarnate and embodying such a persona helps her continue forward without succumbing to the doubt echoing within her mind. Oden had made such an overwhelming impression on Yamato that the imagery of him became a source to derive strength from. Strength that could help silence the anxiety and tentative thoughts saturating her perspective. Any uncertainties and reservations Yamato held evaporated when using the persona of “Oden”. Such a mindset became a liberating light to the darkness of fear engulfing her. Over time, Yamato’s reliance on “Oden” will reduce as she begins to believe in her “self” and abilities more. Unlike in the past, Yamato is now not alone. She has allies to fight alongside.

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    Just want to say welcome back everyone! What was the reason the forum was offline? Maintenance?

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    False DMCA claim, just like the last few times

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