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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny B. Decent View Post
    Sadly, I just expect Trump to win regardless, as expecting both common sense and common decency in my fellow Americans is like wringing blood from a stone nowadays.
    If it helps, here's 538's current Election Forecasts. if I'm interpreting it Trump has a 1 in 4 chance of winning the election. Granted, he had something like 30% odds last time if I remember correctly so, if nothing else, his odds are currently lower than 2016.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

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    iden winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College, which is what happened to Clinton, has 11 in 100 odds.

    This isn't to say Trump can't win, but he has a lower chance of it this time around than 2016.
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    Trump can't win a *fair* election. There's no worry about that.

    The problem is he's doing a LOT of cheating including destroying the post office. And that makes things more of a toss up.

    ANd yeah, red mirage can be a thing if walk in versus mail in votes really skew the way they've been polled as doing and thats a bit of potential nightmare. If Trump is declared winner on election night, even if its really too close to call, we're going to have problems.
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    Anything is better the biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Trump can't win a *fair* election. There's no worry about that.

    The problem is he's doing a LOT of cheating including destroying the post office. And that makes things more of a toss up.

    ANd yeah, red mirage can be a thing if walk in versus mail in votes really skew the way they've been polled as doing and thats a bit of potential nightmare. If Trump is declared winner on election night, even if its really too close to call, we're going to have problems.
    Maybe not even that. There's an article on 538 that's about how people will perceive all the votes being counted later than normal (since there'll be more votes by mail than ever before) and how the candidates will react given the preliminary results. Things can get really messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    Anything is better the biden.
    You forgot to add "except a second term of Trump" to that.

    Never forget that's our only alternative at this stage.

    Also, from the developing WTFJHT feed:

    Nancy Pelosi called for an immediate investigation into allegations of “high rates of hysterectomies done to immigrant women” held inside an ICE detention facility in Georgia. A whistleblower complaint details what is described as “jarring medical neglect” at the Irwin County Detention Center. In a statement, Pelosi called on the Department of Homeland Security to “immediately investigate” the allegations in the complaint and said Americans “need to know why and under what conditions so many women, reportedly without their informed consent, were pushed to undergo this extremely invasive and life-altering procedure.” The complaint also alleges that the ICE facility refused to test detainees who had been exposed to the coronavirus or those who showed symptoms of COVID-19. (Washington Post / The Hill / Forbes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    You forgot to add "except a second term of Trump" to that.

    Never forget that's our only alternative at this stage.

    Also, from the developing WTFJHT feed:

    Nancy Pelosi called for an immediate investigation into allegations of “high rates of hysterectomies done to immigrant women” held inside an ICE detention facility in Georgia. A whistleblower complaint details what is described as “jarring medical neglect” at the Irwin County Detention Center. In a statement, Pelosi called on the Department of Homeland Security to “immediately investigate” the allegations in the complaint and said Americans “need to know why and under what conditions so many women, reportedly without their informed consent, were pushed to undergo this extremely invasive and life-altering procedure.” The complaint also alleges that the ICE facility refused to test detainees who had been exposed to the coronavirus or those who showed symptoms of COVID-19. (Washington Post / The Hill / Forbes)

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    Some people genuinely believe trumpy is better than biden. Those people are stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The D. View Post
    Some people genuinely believe trumpy is better than biden. Those people are stupid.
    Which is why I'm offering the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was omitted on error due to how obvious it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    Which is why I'm offering the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was omitted on error due to how obvious it is.
    Just seems like they're trolling to me, but you're handling it well.
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    I have a question for you Americans.


    (I am no journalist or writer so please forgive both my English and my sentence structuring)


    So first and foremost, no need to attack me, all the information I am going to provide below obviously stems from what I read online and from the general Idea I got from Trump with online information, Im an Italian living in London for many years so obviously I don’t get first hand information, but to me Trump is quite a decent president in quite a couple of terms, here’s why:




    He’s been actively withdrawing troops from active war zones, and actively attempting peace treaties with North Korea and also brokeraged peace between Israel and Arab countries, he indirectly continued the Syrian War but lost to Russia, altho both countries retain military bases within the country, also maybe didn’t provide much help to Yemen against its neighbours and actively challenged Iran. Also tried to peace it out with the Russians but the democrats didn’t let him have much of that.


    I know he dropped a LOT of bombs and MOB as well but at least settled that for good.


    I’m gonna aknowledge that I don’t much know about his foreign policies on war and his active involvement in said wars, so if I’m saying bullshit or outright got things wrong please do correct me, but it looks to ME that he actively tried to achieve more peace than any of his predecessors.




    NOW, lets get to an area I know a little more about and I’m gonna highlight why I for one have respect and a lot of my friends in London both UK and European alike admire him.


    As you well know America moved from a country of producing goods, from the likes of mass scale manufacturers like ford, to an exporting country, a country of outsourcing all products to cheaper destinations, eg: China, Bangladesh you name it obviously depending on the type of goods they wanted to outsource and be produced, completely bypassing the average American workers.
    Giving space to mass companies of outsourcing goods like Apple.
    On top of that add the advent of the internet, and here things really take a turn, Facebook, Instagram, whatever, those companies with the advent of the internet became extremely big but without ever providing tangible goods to the American people.
    A lot of the Central American states end up with people that have both low access to education thus never able to take part in those incredible companies arising and simultaneously being left with completely saturated markets like agriculture.




    From What I’ve gathered, Trump went completely against the system and out completely of the blue, slashing import taxes and wage economical war against those very countries that the Americans have been using for years, why do you think he’s painted in such a bad light?
    I feel that much of his votes come from people of the lower class, people that have been robbed of work by a greedier and greedier America that relies on overseas to Maximise their profits, and people that cannot comply to this new America because they are simply not given such opportunity. And the very people waging war against him are the Democrats that take advantage of those very people Trump is trying to stand for. Trump is making America, America again, he may have a lot of flaws but his intentions are good, and watch him win the second election, because the people I’m talking about are not happy, and they cannot voice it out loud through television or online platforms.


    I can go on for much longer but I think the way I write already makes little sense, the country is yours and vote for whoever you want.


    He has a lot of flaws but he’s definitely not the worse.



    PLEASE correct me on where I’m wrong, I’d like to know more for people that first hand live in his political term, it’s just that for me I feel that a lot of dirt has been put on him, and sometimes for the right reasons, but he’s also done a fair share of good, which coincidentally people always fail to bring to light.



    Extra:
    Most of the information I complied here has come from Giulietto Chiesa:

    Giulietto Chiesa was an Italian journalist, author, lecturer and politician. He was Vice-President of the European Parliament's Committee on International Trade and member of two Extraordinary Committees inside the European Parliament: the Extraordinary Renditions Committee and the Climate Change Committee.

    Unfortunately he died this year, but he was definitely someone that knew what he was talking about, if you're even more interested this is the video in question where I gathered much of the info, you can put the english subtitles to understand:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvPC-Zj062o&feature=emb_title

    Edit: youtube does not do a good job at translating, if some of you are interested I can translate a lot of the conversation and post it here if you want, word for word.
    Last edited by Luca; September 16th, 2020 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    He’s been actively withdrawing troops from active war zones, and actively attempting peace treaties with North Korea and also brokeraged peace between Israel and Arab countries
    He's accepting bribes from dictators and doing whatever is best for Russia. And the dictators know how to sweet talk him and get everything they want. There's a big difference.

    He gave North Korea everything they wanted, including photo ops and approval to continue their nuclear program, and got literally nothing in return.
    He said the Soviet Union was right to invade Afghanistan and congratulated China on the 70th anniversary of the Communist takeover.
    He invited the Taliban to Camp David.
    He gave Turkey a green light to invade Syria and attack our Kurdish allies.

    he may have a lot of flaws but his intentions are good, and watch him win the second election, because the people I’m talking about are not happy, and they cannot voice it out loud through television or online platforms.
    His intentions are entirely to line his pockets and stay out of jail. He cares only about himself, no one else.

    He brags about how 9/11 made his building the tallest in the world.
    He's let 200,000 people die of covid because he doesn't want to take responsibility for it. ANY proper action on his part could have saved 90% of those people. He's STILL lying about the numbers.
    He says global warming is a hoax and refuses to take any action on it.
    He denies aid during crises to states that voted against him, like Puerto Rico after a hurricane or California during a fire.
    He puts children in cages. And they've been there for YEARS now. And illegally trafficked! And has women forcibly sterilized, apparently.
    He's abandoned allies and treaties we've had for 250 years, including Canada! to side with Russia and North Korea.
    He says racists are great and encourages literal Nazi rallies.
    He spends millions of taxpayer dollars on golf trips.
    Whenever he takes trips anywhere, he stays on his properties and makes the secret service pay for rooms.
    He censors the media.
    He uses anti-Semitic tropes to attack his enemies.
    He gave tax breaks to billionaires and charges more to the poor.
    He's destroying the post office to supress mail in votes.
    He's destroying medical care and social security during a pandemic.
    He's authorizing police officers to attack peaceful protestors with tear gas and force.
    He's authorized a "secret" military force only beholden to him that doesn't wear identification that is KIDNAPPING peaceful protestors and taking them who knows where.
    He shut down the government for over a month over a fight on his border wall.
    He's removing environmental regulations and allowing drilling on national parks.
    He's removed food regulations so we can get tainted meat.
    His "trade war" with China basically only hurt our own farmers and companies, to the point they need billions in bailout. Because he does not understand how tarriffs work.
    He's got dozens of cases of rape charges and pediphilia piled against him and he's using government lawyers to fight personal cases.
    He bribes porn stars with hush money.
    He's balooned the deficit by trillions, and that's BEFORE Covid hit.
    Unemployment and markets are worse than they were in the great depression.

    It goes on and on and on. ANd that's before you get to all the blatantly illegal crimes.

    Here's a short list you can check out. It's only 889 entries long so far, its missing a lot.
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...rocities-1-889
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    I have a question for you Americans.


    (I am no journalist or writer so please forgive both my English and my sentence structuring)


    So first and foremost, no need to attack me, all the information I am going to provide below obviously stems from what I read online and from the general Idea I got from Trump with online information, Im an Italian living in London for many years so obviously I don’t get first hand information, but to me Trump is quite a decent president in quite a couple of terms, here’s why:




    He’s been actively withdrawing troops from active war zones, and actively attempting peace treaties with North Korea and also brokeraged peace between Israel and Arab countries, he indirectly continued the Syrian War but lost to Russia, altho both countries retain military bases within the country, also maybe didn’t provide much help to Yemen against its neighbours and actively challenged Iran. Also tried to peace it out with the Russians but the democrats didn’t let him have much of that.


    I know he dropped a LOT of bombs and MOB as well but at least settled that for good.


    I’m gonna aknowledge that I don’t much know about his foreign policies on war and his active involvement in said wars, so if I’m saying bullshit or outright got things wrong please do correct me, but it looks to ME that he actively tried to achieve more peace than any of his predecessors.




    NOW, lets get to an area I know a little more about and I’m gonna highlight why I for one have respect and a lot of my friends in London both UK and European alike admire him.


    As you well know America moved from a country of producing goods, from the likes of mass scale manufacturers like ford, to an exporting country, a country of outsourcing all products to cheaper destinations, eg: China, Bangladesh you name it obviously depending on the type of goods they wanted to outsource and be produced, completely bypassing the average American workers.
    Giving space to mass companies of outsourcing goods like Apple.
    On top of that add the advent of the internet, and here things really take a turn, Facebook, Instagram, whatever, those companies with the advent of the internet became extremely big but without ever providing tangible goods to the American people.
    A lot of the Central American states end up with people that have both low access to education thus never able to take part in those incredible companies arising and simultaneously being left with completely saturated markets like agriculture.




    From What I’ve gathered, Trump went completely against the system and out completely of the blue, slashing import taxes and wage economical war against those very countries that the Americans have been using for years, why do you think he’s painted in such a bad light?
    I feel that much of his votes come from people of the lower class, people that have been robbed of work by a greedier and greedier America that relies on overseas to Maximise their profits, and people that cannot comply to this new America because they are simply not given such opportunity. And the very people waging war against him are the Democrats that take advantage of those very people Trump is trying to stand for. Trump is making America, America again, he may have a lot of flaws but his intentions are good, and watch him win the second election, because the people I’m talking about are not happy, and they cannot voice it out loud through television or online platforms.


    I can go on for much longer but I think the way I write already makes little sense, the country is yours and vote for whoever you want.


    He has a lot of flaws but he’s definitely not the worse.



    PLEASE correct me on where I’m wrong, I’d like to know more for people that first hand live in his political term, it’s just that for me I feel that a lot of dirt has been put on him, and sometimes for the right reasons, but he’s also done a fair share of good, which coincidentally people always fail to bring to light.



    Extra:
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    Giulietto Chiesa was an Italian journalist, author, lecturer and politician. He was Vice-President of the European Parliament's Committee on International Trade and member of two Extraordinary Committees inside the European Parliament: the Extraordinary Renditions Committee and the Climate Change Committee.

    Unfortunately he died this year, but he was definitely someone that knew what he was talking about, if you're even more interested this is the video in question where I gathered much of the info, you can put the english subtitles to understand:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvPC-Zj062o&feature=emb_title
    Just to start, his "attempt to make peace" with north korea was a stupid move. The only thing that came from that was giving kim jong-un the ability to say "Look look! I brought america to the table!" That's a huge propaganda win for the dictator. You can say he tried to make peace with russia as well, but the fact that he is actively trying to ruin our relationships with actual allies should be a huge red flag. Why does he want to suck dictators off while pushing long standing allies away? If he was trying to normalize relations with our enemies while keeping our allies close it would possibly be different, but he isn't, so it's not.

    The economy is changing and people need more and different education to succeed in it. Trying to start an economic war with america's largest trading partner is fucking stupid. An action that caused many many people to require multiple jobs and an eventual government hand outs to help because the agricultural sector you specifically brought up was so hurt by it.

    I know you didn't bring it up (because how the fuck can you defend this) but he also fans the flame of hatred and divisiveness for his own benefit. Americans hate each other more than ever now, and that is directly because of him. If you think things like forcibly sterilizing immigrant women, secret police, 200.000 citizens dead from his inaction, blatant racism, and military action against citizens is okay, you need to re evaluate your life, kiddo.
    Last edited by The D.; September 16th, 2020 at 10:28 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Here's a short list you can check out. It's only 889 entries long so far.
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...rocities-1-889
    I was just gonna post this but Robby beat me to it.

    I get how maybe a person who doesn't live in this country and isn't watching first hand as Trump does all these things might get the impression it isn't as bad as it really is, but if you genuinely don't know then just coming into a thread where people who DO know are talking about how awful he is and just dropping a one sentence Biden Bad, Trump Good thing is incredibly stupid and only serves to rile people up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    He's accepting bribes from dictators and doing whatever is best for Russia. And the dictators know how to sweet talk him and get everything they want. There's a big difference.

    He gave North Korea everything they wanted, including photo ops and approval to continue their nuclear program, and got literally nothing in return.
    He said the Soviet Union was right to invade Afghanistan and congratulated China on the 70th anniversary of the Communist takeover.
    He invited the Taliban to Camp David.
    He gave Turkey a green light to invade Syria and attack our Kurdish allies.



    His intentions are entirely to line his pockets and stay out of jail. He cares only about himself, no one else.

    He brags about how 9/11 made his building the tallest in the world.
    He's let 200,000 people die of covid because he doesn't want to take responsibility for it. ANY proper action on his part could have saved 90% of those people. He's STILL lying about the numbers.
    He says global warming is a hoax and refuses to take any action on it.
    He denies aid during crises to states that voted against him, like Puerto Rico after a hurricane or California during a fire.
    He puts children in cages. And has women forcibly sterilized, apparently.
    He's abandoned allies and treaties we've had for 250 years, including Canada! to side with Russia and North Korea.
    He says racists are great and encourages literal Nazi rallies.
    He spends millions of taxpayer dollars on golf trips.
    Whenever he takes trips anywhere, he stays on his properties and makes the secret service pay for rooms.
    He censors the media.
    He uses anti-Semitic tropes to attack his enemies.
    He gave tax breaks to billionaires and charges more to the poor.
    He's destroying the post office to supress mail in votes.
    He's destroying medical care and social security during a pandemic.
    He's authorizing police officers to attack peaceful protestors with tear gas and force.
    He shut down the government for over a month over a fight on his border wall.
    He's removing environmental regulations and allowing drilling on national parks.
    He's removed food regulations so we can get tainted meat.
    He's got dozens of cases of rape charges and pediphilia piled against him and he's using government lawyers to fight personal cases.
    He bribes porn stars with hush money.
    Unemployment and markets are worse than they were in the great depression.


    It goes on and on and on. ANd that's before you get to all the blatantly illegal crimes.

    Here's a short list you can check out. It's only 889 entries long so far, its missing a lot.
    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...rocities-1-889
    That's pretty bad, can't argue that. I still would like to share some of that interview with you to get your opinion.

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    Really this says everything you actually need to know about the man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Really this says everything you actually need to know about the man.

    https://videos.usatoday.net/Brightco...Id=29906170001
    That was actually the moment I stopped supporting him. Before I watched that on tv I didn't know much about the guy and just thought he was entertaining. Oh how wrong I was...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    Cut for length.
    Besides all the reasons already given, my own issue with Trump boils down to one very simple, straightforward thing: Donald Trump is an incompetent boob who proves on a weekly, if not daily basis that he has no business in the Oval Office.

    Just go over https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/ even a little and you should see what I mean.

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    That was actually the moment I stopped supporting him. Before I watched that on tv I didn't know much about the guy and just thought he was entertaining. Oh how wrong I was...
    I skewed liberal anyway, but for me the moment I knew I could never support him in any form was "You have to go after terrorists' families"
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    Ah yes, casually suggesting war crimes as a solution to anything. Truly a wise and noble warrior lol.
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    For fucks sake, I'm not american and I can see how disastrous corrupt and incompetent he has been as president. Basically the same thing he has been in all his "career".
    And Brazil has gone in the same path, electing a complete idiot that's more concerned in obfuscating the corruption he and his sons have been practicing for 30 years than actually do anything useful besides push the conservative agenda.


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    Please Lord, let Graham lose his seat this year.

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    I translated the first 20 minutes roughly of the interview, was good to translate and not do numbers for once, I apologize but it seems I got all that Giulietto said quite wrong, I outlined below first the question and then the answer, if someone is bothered to read it a bit, especially if he's American Would be good to know how close this is to the truth? What do you think?



    Spoiler:

    M: I would start off if that’s ok with a question about the American deep state, the relationship between deep state and the “state”, Is that a theme that interest you? did you research in depth? And about Trump and the current situation with Trump, what are your views?

    G: Not only is the question about the deep state extremely important but its fundamental to understand what’s going on and what will happen, because it’s a question that reveals how America is no longer America, us till now we are used to the terminology of Russia, America, China. About Russia and China the matter is to be talked separately, but one thing is evident, it’s that America is in the middle of a full on internal political clash that essentially divided the country. It’s a divided country. There are some very deep splits inside the elite that guided the country for more than 200 years, the country’s split, and this split is strategical, it’s not a joke and it’s not a problem that pertains this or that person, it concerns a rupture of the mechanism that kept held in place the American institution since its foundation up until now. So to understand this matter its fundamental, otherwise every time we will think that when the Americans say “America”, that’s not true anymore, because every decision, and I will talk about it more in depth answering the second question, every movement of Donald Trump it’s not explained in any other way that in the political clash that he’s facing every minute against his opposition.

    So who are his opponents, it’s difficult to explain it well but it’s clearly visible, let’s say his opponents are the Democratic party, all of which once upon a time were called the liberal left, I clearly outline the liberal left, because the democratic party has always been considered by us Europeans as the left, contraposed to the right. The Imperial and capitalist industrial military sector which was represented by the Republican Party. Now the situation is no longer as such, the lineup completely changed, why? Because Trump entered the field and ruptured the American Establishment, literally he broke it in half, and he made arise, now I’m not saying for the good or for the bad, I’m just describing, then everybody faces the problem how they see fit, but I’m merely describing what happened, to some extent, actually in a very precise extent, Donald Trump came in a broke the American establishment and created the conditions that allowed a new America that we didn’t know to emerge.

    We didn’t know this America, we knew about an America that was not progressive at all, a quite obscure America, a primitive America, I don’t know how to explain it well, to me what comes to mind its Texas, guns, that kind of America that created its entrepreneurial strength through an explicit violent management of the political clashes, in that sense, I’m talking about the history of the 20th century. In America a true leftist party never came to be, a worker’s party, no, because the working class was subjugated directly and immediately with extreme violence, the concept of a trade union in America does not really exist to the extent that we have (Italy), it’s a kind of corporation which immediately connected itself to the mafia, with criminal organizations. You just need to go and see the last movie; I think an important movie, Scorsese’s new movie, The Irishman. The Irishman is a piece of American History, and if one pays attention to the movie he can clearly see how quickly the left was liquidated in America, even before it was given a chance to be born, the working class in America was huge, but was immediately hegemonized by the “groups” that were in charge through an operation that was explicitly violent, the use of the mafia, I mean Kennedy’s assassination was done by the mafia, hehe, I think it’s quite evident.

    So you can imagine if they can occupy a piece of the CIA, a piece of the FBI, a relevant part of the state department and more relevantly some of the pentagon, well this is the power, the power of the elites, now Trump arrives on the scene and says, this America, I will describe it a bit better later in detail, this America that is before me is an America, I mean it’s not an America of the Americans, it’s an America of the elites that built its imperial state through finance, and so finance has become the dominant force of the American politics during the whole Clinton, Bush 1, Bush 2, Obama 1, Obama 2 phase. This is the curve, which also highlights the end of an America as polo manufacturer and producer of material goods, and the beginning of an America that essentially became a producer of money through money, to put it briefly. They took the world finance and put it under their control, and through world finance and their power that’s tied to their monopoly of the dollar and started dictating laws to the whole world, to Europe, to Africa, to Asia, even Russia for a certain period, Russia was colonized since 1989 until the arrival of Putin, grosso modo 10 years, Even Russia itself became a colony of the United States of America, or better of the American finance. So this is the first component: Finance.

    The second component is the Silicon Valley, Silicon Valley and thus Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo, Twitter, all of that which is dominating world communication, it became an other incredibly power instrument, which is part of the deep state, from a certain point of view we can consider it the modern, progressive, technological America. But in reality this modern, progressive and technological part intertwined itself very closely with its secret services, let’s speak openly here, Facebook it’s a product of the CIA, of the NSA, those became the instruments of control, and thus here is a picture of America before Trump. The big alliance between the lawyers of lobbyists of the finance of Wall Street, add more, Silicon Valley, and all these businesses of communication you add in Secret Services and you get the deep State.


    This deep state allied itself with other international organizations, in particular with the Bank of England and Great Britain as a whole, and tried to imprint, actually let me correct that, managed to successfully imprint the world globalization with the American market. The world globalization it’s us. We are exclusive, we are a special country, we have rights over everyone else, it looks like I’m exaggerating, but when you really pay close attention to their actions this is what they really believe, for example they recently declared that the cosmic space is American, they openly declared it, they went so far that in Wall Street they are beginning to sell lunar lots, to be able to go for future explorations, and the Americans are already selling lunar territory as if they were the owners of the Moon. Some would say this is madness but it’s really their way of thinking. Now why do I look at this reality with big concern, because these gentlemen have the idea that, this elite, the deep state, have the idea that because America dominated the whole 20th century, they have to dominate forever, they have to dominate the 21st century, and instead we have a different reality, apart from the Coronavirus that arrived but it’s partly connected, we have a reality that says that the world is no longer that of the 20th century, and America can say whatever it wants, but a colossus like China emerged and its developing quicker then America, and which is occupying two third of the global trade, America itself has to basically buy everything from China, or rather has DECIDED to purchase everything from China at a low cost and at this point is currently no longer the dominator, it’s dollar does no longer occupy the whole of global trade, and not for naught its emerging quicker and quicker the idea that the dollar can no longer hold the entirety of the global trade and it will be necessary to create a new basket of currencies.

    But the basket in which lies the worlds monetary fund is in dollars, it’s a board of directors where America, has the absolute majority stake. But in our current world, this situation is no longer sustainable because the weight of China, let’s leave Russia aside, Russia for other reasons is important but not for economic reasons. Russia is important because of it’s a strategic powerful nuclear power. China does not have this military might but has an overflowing economic power. The Chinese bond market, let’s call it as such, it’s today of 13 trillion dollars. Their weight, their economical weigh and its importance is enormous, as such we have seen recently in the moment that Covid started, and China had to stop, the whole global market stopped as well, all of it derailed from its tracks. Just think about what’s currently happening with the price of Oil, the whole global economy blocked, and the demand of energy collapses, it affects Russia, Iran, and United States. And out of nowhere the price of petrol plummets, to an astounding 10, 6, 8 dollars a barrel. It’s a planetary catastrophe, because oil was the center of the power of the world, I mean oil and the dollar were the absolute nucleus of the worlds power, all of the energy passed through the dollar, and suddenly out of nowhere this market crumbles, today crumbled, yesterday crumbled, I don’t even know what going to happen in the future, because before there can be a recovery we will need time, and all of this will be blocked, all stopped, there’s so much oil currently that they don’t even know where to store it anymore, in fact Russia, Saudi Arabia and America had to come down to an agreement because otherwise where do you stock all of the oil? There’s literally no place of where to store it and thus you can imagine, all of the transport, all of the hundreds of oil tankers that moved around the world are stuck, all of the shipping companies are blocked, the ports, a vast majority of those humongous ports that were used for energy are blocked. We are in front of a colossal upheaval.


    I’ll come back to the starting point, why has Trump under certain aspects a certain threat, because he said in that context America is no longer a producer of goods, doesn’t export anything anymore, we only export dollars (I lold in real life), but we also become very weak exporting only dollars, so what did he do, he did a quantitative easing (QE), started producing dollars out of nowhere and thus basically upholds the whole global economy, but this is also an illusion, and so he says, we need to come back to be a manufacturing country, the Americans need to produce and manufacture tangible goods, and become yet again exporters of these very same goods, this will be a healing of sorts, in this way he, I’ll simplify it now, he positioned himself against the whole economic and financial structure of Wall Street, against the federal reserve, and said from now on, it will be the state that will decide the financial trend of the American state and not otherwise, this naturally enraged the previous power and so Donald Trump, who are the visible enemies of Donald Trump? It’s the New York Times, the Washington Post; all of the newspapers of the establishment are against him and so obviously against him also deployed themselves Google, Facebook, the big structures that are closely intertwined with the safety and control systems: the NSA, CIA, FBI, the secret structures of the country which control or try to control the people, the people of the world, first and foremost of the Americans themselves, and after that even our own because we are one of their colonies, This is more or less the answer, so we should start to analyze from now on keeping a close eye on the clash that’s currently happening in the US, which is not a political clash where there are the good and the bad, because it’s not like Donald Trump is nice, Donald Trump uphelds the interests of a piece of the America that I tried to now describe, an America that want to go back to being Dominant but not with finance which makes her weak, but with material manufacturing and production, with export, with a raise of globalization of America but completely different from what it was this past 30 years. Let’s see if he manages or not, if he does he’ll be reelected otherwise we’ll see.

    Last edited by Luca; September 16th, 2020 at 02:02 PM.

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