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    That was a good ass chapter. The pacing is breezy, but I'm fine with it at the moment. Wish I could see more of Neko and Inuarushi doing stuff, though.

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    Now the flashback is going to enter the Roger Pirates phase you won't hear me complaining a single time if Oda decides to slow things to nearly a stop. So much I want to see from there, and not all of them including Buggy. High chances we might even see Rouge.

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    This WB flashback makes me sad because when it comes to the anime, Whitebeard will have a new voice, since the original died, which sucks. That voice was perfect.

    With the flashback at least, they'll be able to pad it out a bit more via fillers i reckon which i wouldn't mind too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningAce View Post
    This WB flashback makes me sad because when it comes to the anime, Whitebeard will have a new voice, since the original died, which sucks. That voice was perfect.

    With the flashback at least, they'll be able to pad it out a bit more via fillers i reckon which i wouldn't mind too much.
    New Kizaru will break my heart even more. Impossible to replace that guy in any satisfying manner.

    Man the coverstory is getting weirder and weirder. And I admit I misjudged the Hoover lady, apparently she's forced to rape people due to some magic bullets?


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    The cover story is getting way too Random.

    Its nice getting to chill with Whitebeard.

    I will say I do not care much for Roger so Im not in a hurry to get to that part of Oden's travel. Especially since there's a good chance it will be world building instead of character driven.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    New Kizaru will break my heart even more. Impossible to replace that guy in any satisfying manner.

    Man the coverstory is getting weirder and weirder. And I admit I misjudged the Hoover lady, apparently she's forced to rape people due to some magic bullets?
    we've already heard new Kizaru.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghqMlDk2Zr4

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    Just noticed that in the official version it was Whitebeard who gave a treasure chest to Oden and not the other way around.

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    I respect Oda's work ethic and all, but man, two breaks between three chapters each is a hard pill to swallow.

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    Oh so that's why there was one more chapter left in the volume. Yeah, that's the right place to end it.

    The question raised by the cover story now is this: is Kuween doing what she was doing because of who she is as a person, or is it because she was hit with a kiss kiss cootie already? Perhaps we'll get a bit where the Germ Pirates come after her and she's all "I already always want to kiss people," cue Enel face fault.

    The figure of ten or twenty million islands in the world is a curious bit of worldbuilding, assuming Marco's info is accurate. According to Google, the real world only has about 2,000 in its oceans (not counting ones in lakes or other inland areas of water because they get too hard to define), which is a huge difference, even accounting for the extra space the One Piece world has without any major continents aside from the Redline. I think the only way this works (this and a few other things) is if the One Piece world is significantly larger than earth. That, or Marco's exaggerating to impress Cat and Dog. Or Oda picked some impressive sounding numbers and didn't think through the implications of them. As much as I'd like to be getting a concrete number, the implication is probably just that there are too many islands to count. Wouldn't be much point to Nami's goal if they knew all the islands of the world this long ago.

    Still no sign of Sleepy or Frowleibs among the Whitebeard pirates. Come on, Oda, give the Vivre Cards the thing they need to be truly complete!

    I really appreciate how Oda makes flashbacks pull double duty in terms of both character and worldbuilding. And the fact that a character as minor in the scheme of things as Izo gets to have this much backstory. I wonder if Oda is setting him up to perhaps change Marco's mind about coming Wano in the present.

    Oden's trial is a good bit of storytelling. A good ordeal for the character, though Whitebeard seems to have made it through a lot of different biomes in just three days. That's the Grand Line for you.

    And we have Toki. Aaaaaand she looks exactly like her daughter. Not just family resemblance, they're prettymuch the same. Which is par for the course honestly. In another series, I might have taken this as a clue that perhaps there was something up with the two identical women never explicitly confirmed to both be Hyori - wouldn't that be a twist? But here I'm inclined to say it's just Oda being Oda.

    I like the lack of clarity over why Oden let go of the chain. Did he actually get too injured and slip away, or did he actually hear Toki screaming and let go so he could help. I read the latter as Whitebeard giving him the benefit of the doubt, but it could really go either way. (sure he talks about hearing her voice as he comes ashore, but that could easily have happened as he was washing up on the beach. The ship seems pretty far from land when we see the crew realising he's not there anymore.)

    The adventure panels all look like a lot of fun. Oden trying to climb on the back of a giant koala is my favourite one. Good to know there's a One Piece Australia out there somewhere. (too bad about what's happening to the actual koalas in actual Australia though)

    Toki seems to have been born right at the end of the Void Century. We might get some info about it from her, but I'd say this is a sign Oda will be saving the full story for later.

    And then we get the Pirate King himself taking an interest. I'm very interested to see how convincing Oden to jump ships ended up working, and why Izo decided not to follow him. It's going to be an interesting few chapters, that's for certain!

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    Wonder if this flashback will finally reveal whether Roger had a DF or not

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    I like that we were able to see Oden's pursuit of adventure bring out some sense of humility from him. Gives him a little depth I think. I am a bit surprised by how similar his mannerisms are to Luffy when it comes to thrill seeking though. Didn't expect to see that much exuberance.

    While seeing Gold Roger is cool, i'm still most interested in finding out how Orochi went from being a nobody to becoming ruler of a country and ally of Kaido.


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    So I think the way this flashback will go is Oden will get to see all the marvels of the outside world and he'll want to open up that gift to the rest of Wano. This will be the motivation for him to open up the borders.

    There's also an outside shot that Toki reveals some hard truths about the void century, Wano's role in it, and some other things about "the dawn", and that will act as motivation too.

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    Don't know if this was discussed already, but in every panel with Toko, there's a small cloud near her face all around the chapter. What could It mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingwolf View Post
    Don't know if this was discussed already, but in every panel with Toko, there's a small cloud near her face all around the chapter. What could It mean?
    She's huffing and puffing in exhaustion.
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    The new translation emphasizes the surprise Oden has to see Toki is wearing Wano-style clothes. Maybe she is from Ancient Wano, and that's why she felt comfortable living there in the present.

    I'm almost sure we'll see very little of Roger's journey. Like Luffy said to Rayleigh, what's the fun in adventure if you know what you'll find

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    Wano certanly had a role in the Void Century since they were the ones that wrote the Poneglyphs, but i'm interested on how did Toki managed to get her hands on the Toki-Toki-no-Mi and why is she so adamant in returning to Wano? I mean she certanly knows that nobody from her time still lives so she must know something is in Wano that nobody else knows about it so she must've told Oden about it.
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    Gimme them void century deets Toki, even if it will be just hints. ;)
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    Unless Oden temporarily returned to Wano with Toki, which seems unlikely, it means that she gave birth to Momo and Hiyori during this adventure, which I didn't expect at all, simply because I thought it would be way too dangerous. Imagine one year old Momonosuke at the Battle of Edd War.
    Also does that mean Toki, Momo and Hiyori were on Laugh Tale as well or was that actually too dangerous and Oden dropped them off somewhere safe until his return? Maybe the reason Cat and Dog didn't travel to Laugh Tale was because they were assigned to stay with them? Maybe on Zou, since we know the Roger Pirates were there one year before they reached Laugh Tale. I'm curious to find out how exactly all of this played out.

    Someone on reddit pointed out that on the panel where Oden is on fire we can see what is likely Marco in his phoenix form:
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    That would explain how he managed to get Izo on the ship without pulling up the chain.

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    As expected, flashback will last 'till january. But I dont see Act III ending along with it.

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