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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    It's not the greatest ending ever, but it is an ending. I'm reserving judgement til the next chapter is out just on that vague distant hope of a big meaty volume.

    That said, I still don't think we'll really know for sure until we get the pagecount for this one. There should be enough variance between 11 chapters and 9 chapters + the boichi special to tell which of those it is as well.
    You think that the Boichi special will be introduce in this volume?
    I personally think that when several artists will have made they One Piece chapter, the Shueisha will put them altogether in a special volume (like they are doing with the cover stories in "Doors").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivaille View Post
    You think that the Boichi special will be introduce in this volume?
    I personally think that when several artists will have made they One Piece chapter, the Shueisha will put them altogether in a special volume (like they are doing with the cover stories in "Doors").
    I think it's fairly unlikely and I'd really rather they didn't, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, especially considering how perfect a cliffhanger chapter 951 is. Just gotta keep that outside chance in mind.

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    Volume 94: 216 Pages, 10 - 11 Chapter.

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    216 pages would be 11 chapters by my math. Definitely no Boichi chapter, as it's too long to fit, even with only nine regular chapters, so that's good.

    I'm gonna stand by my cover prediction from the previous page, but you could perhaps cut the Wano-style wanted posters in the middle section for a glimpse of Kawamatsu (obscured, because he's still a secret at the start of the volume) and Gyukimaru. I'm feeling either "O-Lin" or "Rampage" for the title.

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    11 Chapters means in ends in 953, right? I guess that makes sense since it includes the payoff for most of the stuff that's set-up in the volume. The Gyukimaru reveal works well as a bookend and there's the sword stuff as a cliffhanger for the next volume. Although imo the ending would work better if it was just Onimaru, but Oda just has to end every single chapter in some sort of cliffhanger.

    EDIT: I've just realized volume 93 also ends with Hiyori teasing exposition XD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    As I see it, there's a few options for ending this volume. Chapter 951 would be a fantastic ending, but nine chapters makes for too short a book. They could pad it out with the Boichi chapter, but to be honest I'd prefer they didn't. If there's a plan to do more of those it might be best to keep them isolated and collected into their own volume. Ten chapters is the minimum then, but 952 is not the kind of note volumes usually end on. So it looks like we're getting at least one, maybe two more before this one wraps up.

    I've done another quick mock up cover, which I could have to change in the coming weeks, given how much of the volume is still to come out.

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    It would have been nice to have the parting clouds from the Emperors' clash behind the title, but the existing panels for it just didn't really work how I wanted. I think the broad idea of the layout comes across anyway.
    Only Queen's "Enel"-face is missing in that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roronoa Zacho View Post
    Only Queen's "Enel"-face is missing in that one.
    A great face, but he got his moment on the last cover. Let the guy rest.

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    I'd expect to see the full Udon crew in the cover, since that takes up the bulk of the volume. Basically the ending of Chapter 948 with Tama and Momo thrown in there somewhere. And I guess Big Mom and Kaido looming in the background (unless they want to straight up spoil their fight).

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    Volume covers are basically major spoilers for Volumes-only readers, I feel bad for them. I try my best to not read a chapter titles and sometimes even skipping the cover page and read it after I finish reading the chapter. Only when I think the chapter is going to be an important one though.. lately I just casually read the chapter's title.

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    Then again everything is a spoiler for volumes-only readers, especially if they live in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizoku_Ou View Post
    Volume covers are basically major spoilers for Volumes-only readers, I feel bad for them. I try my best to not read a chapter titles and sometimes even skipping the cover page and read it after I finish reading the chapter. Only when I think the chapter is going to be an important one though.. lately I just casually read the chapter's title.

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    Then again everything is a spoiler for volumes-only readers, especially if they live in Japan.
    Isn't a spoiler by definition when someone else gives away the plot before you get to it? How can it be a spoiler if the literal author of the thing chose to put it there? A bit ridiculous if you ask me, but don't let anyone else tell you what the right way to read is.

    Out of curiosity though, what do you think the covers have legitimately spoiled for anyone reading that way first? The only example I can really think of is Sulong Carrot on volume 88, but even then I'm not convinced a first timer would feel cheated by seeing her there (given that she's only seen from a great distance, out of context, under a colour filter, and with regular Carrot elsewhere on the cover as a misdirection).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    Isn't a spoiler by definition when someone else gives away the plot before you get to it? How can it be a spoiler if the literal author of the thing chose to put it there? A bit ridiculous if you ask me, but don't let anyone else tell you what the right way to read is.

    Out of curiosity though, what do you think the covers have legitimately spoiled for anyone reading that way first? The only example I can really think of is Sulong Carrot on volume 88, but even then I'm not convinced a first timer would feel cheated by seeing her there (given that she's only seen from a great distance, out of context, under a colour filter, and with regular Carrot elsewhere on the cover as a misdirection).
    Nightmare Luffy, Ace's death, G4th? I'm sure there are others that I can't recall right now. Never said it was a normal reaction :) I do enjoy volume covers as a weekly reader though. I meant it for volumes-only readers who buy the new volumes as soon as it comes out (every 3 to 4 months). First timers ought to have been spoiled a lot already so for those guys I don't think major cover spoilers will affect them that much.

    To me a spoiler is anything showing anything before it happened in the plot outside of original content medium(pages of the manga[excluding volume covers]). Heck I even skip Opening of animes that I see for the first time(if I haven't read the manga) I do watch them later though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizoku_Ou View Post
    Nightmare Luffy, Ace's death, G4th? I'm sure there are others that I can't recall right now. Never said it was a normal reaction :) I do enjoy volume covers as a weekly reader though. I meant it for volumes-only readers who buy the new volumes as soon as it comes out (every 3 to 4 months). First timers ought to have been spoiled a lot already so for those guys I don't think major cover spoilers will affect them that much.

    To me a spoiler is anything showing anything before it happened in the plot outside of original content medium(pages of the manga[excluding volume covers]). Heck I even skip Opening of animes that I see for the first time(if I haven't read the manga) I do watch them later though.
    If I was a volume only reader and seen a Blue Luffy or big Haki Luffy, i'd break everything in sight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizoku_Ou View Post
    Nightmare Luffy, Ace's death, G4th? I'm sure there are others that I can't recall right now. Never said it was a normal reaction :) I do enjoy volume covers as a weekly reader though. I meant it for volumes-only readers who buy the new volumes as soon as it comes out (every 3 to 4 months). First timers ought to have been spoiled a lot already so for those guys I don't think major cover spoilers will affect them that much.

    To me a spoiler is anything showing anything before it happened in the plot outside of original content medium(pages of the manga[excluding volume covers]). Heck I even skip Opening of animes that I see for the first time(if I haven't read the manga) I do watch them later though.
    Nightmare Luffy I'll pay, but G4 definitely not. It was revealed in the volume before it first appeared on a cover. The stuff about Ace's death in the chapter/volume title I think is a deliberate choice. You've already seen him be mortally wounded in the last page of the previous volume, and you're meant to be 90% certain that's the end already. Then you get that grim, undeniable confirmation from the author himself... It's part of the storytelling, not something that's accidentally taking away from it.

    I see covers (and most anime openings) as things similar to, say, how the Ryuma fight was handled, where we're shown the end of the fight first, then flashback to see the bulk of it and work back to seeing the ending in context. These glimpses of the future build hype and deliberately set expectations that can then either be met or subverted for dramatic value. It's not like your mate accidentally giving away the twist, or even a Hollywood trailer that shows too much, it's something made by the creators of the work, knowing that it's going to be put at the front and seen by first-time readers/viewers.

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    Anime openings are mostly just spoilery when you know what you're looking at. Otherwise they're often just random montages of characters, scenes that may not even happen most of the time, often shadowed group shots. Look at how many OP openings have Mihawk, Shanks and Blackbeard in them, or the openings that have the crew fighting the admirals.

    Sure some times there's a shot thats undeniably a upcoming moment like Luffy and gang falling from the sky into the war, or Fujitora calling down an asteroid, but usually removed from any context you have no clue what that is about or if its even a real moment or just a symbolic representation. Like them giving away Robin joining the crew about 3 episodes early was their biggest sin, (that they've been careful to not repeat) but even there it kind of has the effect of making you go "what the heck is SHE doing there? Where's Vivi?" but that one at least they should have held a tiny bit longer.

    And if its a really big twist, the anime is usually good enough to seriously hide tht detail before its relevant, like when Dragonball SUper had Buu in its opening until Frieza went in instead... that was not something they could give away 10 episodes early.

    My favorite example of this is the Slayers Next opening which prominently displays the villain of the season in the opening, but you have no idea who it is, or even mentally register the quick clip, until you've actually met him already. The slayers openings also show off Lina's sister and great lords who never actually appear in-show, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Anime openings are mostly just spoilery when you know what you're looking at. Otherwise they're often just random montages of characters, scenes that may not even happen most of the time, often shadowed group shots. Look at how many OP openings have Mihawk, Shanks and Blackbeard in them, or the openings that have the crew fighting the admirals.

    Sure some times there's a shot thats undeniably a upcoming moment like Luffy and gang falling from the sky into the war, or Fujitora calling down an asteroid, but usually removed from any context you have no clue what that is about or if its even a real moment or just a symbolic representation. Like them giving away Robin joining the crew about 3 episodes early was their biggest sin, (that they've been careful to not repeat) but even there it kind of has the effect of making you go "what the heck is SHE doing there? Where's Vivi?" but that one at least they should have held a tiny bit longer.

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    To be fair, it's more like 14 episodes early. I think you are waving that one away a bit too lightly. It's flat out revealing to Anime only watchers that Robin will be a part of the crew and Vivi will not, at a time when Robin is firmly being a villain to the Strawhats. Sure, it makes you wonder what the hell is going on, but it also completely spoils the surprise episode 130 would provide like the chapter did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Like them giving away Robin joining the crew about 3 episodes early was their biggest sin, (that they've been careful to not repeat) but even there it kind of has the effect of making you go "what the heck is SHE doing there? Where's Vivi?" but that one at least they should have held a tiny bit longer.\
    Or revealing that Kaido is a dragon zoan. Pretty big one, imo. My girlfriend, who is anime only, hasn't seen the opening yet because of it. Sanji in a raid suit is a spoiler, but can be read as a what-if, so it's not as big a deal to me, but if someone felt slighted by it, I'd get their point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    To be fair, it's more like 14 episodes early.
    Okay, granted I haven't watched that portion of the anime basically since it originally aired, but I do not remember it being anywhere near that far in advance. Was really that much?

    Maybe the bootlegs I was getting it through at the time changed openings later. Or maybe I'm just seriously misremembering because I marathoned that chunk of the arc in a day instead of over three months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Okay, granted I haven't watched that portion of the anime basically since it originally aired, but I do not remember it being anywhere near that far in advance. Was really that much?
    Yeah, it actually was. That third opening, Hikari'e, debuted episode 116; Robin joined the crew 130. In fact, since Alabasta was only 39 episodes long (consisting of 92 to 130), that means that there was more than a third of the arc still left to go at the time this opening premiered. This is after Robin saved Luffy after his first loss to Crocodile (which happened in 111--116 adapts Sanji defeating Bon Clay), so anime-only fans would know that she wasn't completely evil, but it's before her further interactions with him like when she chuckled at his antics during Round 2.

    Since I only got into the series about 4 years ago, I can still remember pretty well how much that made me do a double-take when I reached that point in the anime. I'd already read the manga to beyond that point, so I wasn't spoiled or anything, but to me, that's still the first thing I think of when I remember major spoilers in the OP anime openings, haha.
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    I skip openings lol. Nothing against them and i'm not trying to avoid spoilers, I just want to get to my episode. I only have watched a few and that was after I had caught up to the manga.

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    By now, I actually skip the openings too, usually, but I like the current one, Over the Top, enough that I've actually been watching through it. Since it has one short portion of it that changes for every episode to show a couple of brief clips from said episode, I also enjoy seeing what those are.
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