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    Another great freaking chapter! I didn't think Big Mom would get her memory back so quickly, but I'm satisfied and intrigued by a face to face meeting with her and Kaido. I'm also eager to learn more about how this new haki works and see Luffy's mastery of it in the next chapter.

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    As I read the chap I asked myself, what was Luffy's plan? Going in circles forever?
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    Truly amazing chapter. Now we understand what happened back with Rayleigh, it had nothing to do with speed, but the advanced forms of haki
    So basically, there are three stages of the coa. Coating or imbueing, and then gouken, a sort of shield as it appears. And then this technique that grants you the ability to destroy stuff from the inside.
    Granpa hyou only was aiming to teach this shield to luffy. And as he said, luffy already used a far advanced technique.
    So he was just making pressure on him to do again without forgetting the feeling.
    Queen was hilarious. He lives in the moment.
    Kaido and mama are gonna meet, and rocks info ahead. Looking forward to that.
    Mama is chained by 100 percent kairouski, why is queen worried.
    Next we'll shift to law and sanji apparently.
    Udon belongs to luffy now.

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    What's wrong, Lucci? Why do you want to reset the world?
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    I like how after 947 chapters of just kind of knowing that One Piece gonna One Piece, barely anyone is calling foul on Big Mom just inexplicably falling asleep mid sentence. At least not here anyway. It would be pretty interesting if Oda ever gives some sort of explanation for the characters we've seen go through this. Not really necessary but I'd like it all the same.

    As I said in the spoiler section I am digging these Haki explanations. Some of CP9's techniques have always seemed related and my head cannon is that Lucci's Ryokugun/what ever it's called is a form of what ever Luffy just learned. I'm sure there is some Japanese reader that could scout through some old volumes and find similar language between this "new" technique and what Lucci did.

    I like Haki because it is clearly influenced by martial arts. I've witnessed and felt certain things that I know to be absolutely 100% real. I could always point to a real world example to every technique of Haki Oda has shown us so far aside from a giant force field and predicting ones movement. Then yesterday I was invited to this annual gathering of martial arts masters and sure enough one teacher was talking about projecting giant force fields. Nah lol, he was talking about predicting intent from an opponent even with eyes closed. Of course that dealt with being close and in physical contact to people instead of some psychic like awareness. Still it checked the box as far as I was concerned.

    In real life chi/ki/ji/what ever can be used to harm things and the same energy can be applied to heal things. You know what I'm getting at. I know already some of you are mashing the reply button going "NO CHOPPER DOESN'T AND CAN'T HEAL WITH HAKI! HE'S A REAL DOCTOR! EVERYTHING ISN'T HAKI!" To that I say shut the eF up. A lot of real doctors on the eastern side of things heal with chi. Also it's not sticking your hand over someone's gash and magically sealing up the wound Eragon style. There has been no mention of anything of the sort when it comes to Haki in One Piece so I doubt Oda would apply it to Chopper's medical skills but I think it would be interesting.

    Also praise Jesus once more for Stephen Paul's translations. What do you suppose Luffy meant by "I've always been free!"? Does he mean since he's been in the prison he knew it was only a matter of time before he was unchained or is he talking metaphorically? Pirate King most free person ever and all that jazz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanceDawn View Post
    I like how after 947 chapters of just kind of knowing that One Piece gonna One Piece, barely anyone is calling foul on Big Mom just inexplicably falling asleep mid sentence. At least not here anyway. It would be pretty interesting if Oda ever gives some sort of explanation for the characters we've seen go through this. Not really necessary but I'd like it all the same.

    As I said in the spoiler section I am digging these Haki explanations. Some of CP9's techniques have always seemed related and my head cannon is that Lucci's Ryokugun/what ever it's called is a form of what ever Luffy just learned. I'm sure there is some Japanese reader that could scout through some old volumes and find similar language between this "new" technique and what Lucci did.

    I like Haki because it is clearly influenced by martial arts. I've witnessed and felt certain things that I know to be absolutely 100% real. I could always point to a real world example to every technique of Haki Oda has shown us so far aside from a giant force field and predicting ones movement. Then yesterday I was invited to this annual gathering of martial arts masters and sure enough one teacher was talking about projecting giant force fields. Nah lol, he was talking about predicting intent from an opponent even with eyes closed. Of course that dealt with being close and in physical contact to people instead of some psychic like awareness. Still it checked the box as far as I was concerned.

    In real life chi/ki/ji/what ever can be used to harm things and the same energy can be applied to heal things. You know what I'm getting at. I know already some of you are mashing the reply button going "NO CHOPPER DOESN'T AND CAN'T HEAL WITH HAKI! HE'S A REAL DOCTOR! EVERYTHING ISN'T HAKI!" To that I say shut the eF up. A lot of real doctors on the eastern side of things heal with chi. Also it's not sticking your hand over someone's gash and magically sealing up the wound Eragon style. There has been no mention of anything of the sort when it comes to Haki in One Piece so I doubt Oda would apply it to Chopper's medical skills but I think it would be interesting.
    I love stuff with Martial arts in it or even thing like One Piece that use martial arts as inspiration in there series

    now I'm trying to think of some
    History's strongest disciple Kenchi
    Baki the grappler
    The Breaker
    holy land
    Gamaran
    Hajime No Ippo

    hell I love that Avatar the last air bender takes tons of inspiration from all sorts of martial arts

    and don't even get me started on Martial arts movies, good or bad, I love them (one of my biggest gripes with Netflix is that took out so many of there Martial arts movies)

    EDIT: Oh yeah One Punch man too!!!

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    Great chapter.

    The only real scenario I can see working with Big Mom now, is her waking up and breaking free as soon as she's near Kaido. Then they'll talk truce instead of wasting the effort fighting right now. If those restraints were actually gonna work, nothing Linlin knows or has should be worth enough for Kaido to not just kill her on sight.

    I think we'll leave Luffy to off-panel taking over the jail now. We might see Hyo check on Kawamatsu or Raizo finding the keys, but otherwise not too much to do here right now. We'll probably go back to finishing up the chaos Zoro and co are stuck in now, and tease some more whatever Ashura wants to show Inu and co.

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    I gotta say, I really love stories that reach this point we're currently at, where there's so many balls in the air the story becomes impossible to predict just by virtue of there being so many different characters and factions that could step into the action. (Not to mention wildcard factors like Big Mom's memory returning!) I was strapping in for at least a full chapter of Luffy and Big Mom, but instead the prison guards rally and interrupt and cart her off to see Kaido. A meeting between those two was something I think everyone was anticipating, but I don't think anyone saw factors colliding to set it up so suddenly.

    Luffy also doesn't seem to have fully conquered his fear of Big Mom yet, though its hard to tell if he's actually trying to get away or just dodging because he knows now he's not ready to stand up to a direct hit. What could the implications of this be if she comes back with Soul Pocus?

    I liked the new haki lore. The new technique of using it of channeling it into something or someone else to destroy rather than protect is, as others have noted, strikingly similar to Lucci's Six King Pistol, which supports my headcanon that CP9 were all using at least a little haki when they fought the Strawhats. I'd love to see the Six Powers confirmed as at the very least as gateway training for haki. I know the Vivre Card databook specifies that the Cipher Pol guys learned during the timeskip but like, c'mooon. It makes too much sense. Also, if destructive haki can be imbued into another person, does that mean protective haki could be as well? Could Luffy put his arms around the crew and protect them all with his own haki? Could be the start of some really interesting combo techniques between the haki using and non-haki using members of the crew.

    Grandpa Hyo seemingly dying then jumping away from the next attack is one my favourite gags in a while, and his neck stretching as Luffy pulls him out of the wall on the previous page is pretty great as well.

    Y'all mark my words, the dude in the iron-works who reacts to the guards talking about the Smail disappearing is gonna be important. One of the old Yakuza bosses maybe? I think he'll be the face of the prisoners after Luffy rallies them into an army.

    Queen is back on his feet rather quickly, and it's something I like seeing in contrast to this idea so much of the fanbase (especially over on Reddit) seems to have about how wins and losses are absolute and quantifiable and a measure of a character's worth. These days its rare for a fight to turn into an all-out slugfest that leaves at least one person totally unable to stand at the end of it. The story has become too complex, with too many factors, different objectives and logistical concerns, and the combatants too strong, for that to happen often. We get smaller clashes that buy ground in a larger set piece or where one fighter gets knocked down just long enough for the other to move on with their own objective. It makes sense; there's a lot more at stake now than giving an absolute beatdown to one guy for the sake of pride. It plays into the understanding that One Piece has adopted the heart and soul of a high fantasy epic within its shonen exterior - the macro-level conflict has come to the forefront, and it's the war that's important more than the battles. Maybe we could have spent a whole chapter or two on Big Mom and Queen fighting to establish completely where the strength difference is to 0.5 of a standard powerlevel and count off on our fingers how many attacks it takes for Queen to stay down permanently, but that kind of thing just isn't really important anymore to the kind of story One Piece has become.

    What's with the bit with Momo and Tama and the gate closing? Am I reading it right that they decided to go in before they were sealed out?

    I'm sure there's embittered comments somewhere about Queen's negligence taking so many of his top guys to transport Big Mom before Luffy was dealt with (love that his boars all wear the same goggles though) but I think it makes sense from his perspective. Even with how far Luffy's come, Big Mom is by far the worse threat, and it would be a far, far worse choice to take any chances whatsoever with her captivity. Also, his use of seastone begs the question of why Tottoland doesn't keep some on hand to at least slow her during hunger pang attacks. Is it because they don't think they could approach with it without having their souls taken?

    Final pace is a classic Luffy moment. I love it. The talk of Udon being his echoes earlier talk that the whole area was cut off from the rest of Wano. I'd thought that meant just the prison though. Is there nothing else in this province except the mines? Regardless, Luffy's right that things won't be quite as exciting without Big Mom or Queen to fight, so I'd say it's pretty likely we'll be cutting away, either to the capitol or to Big Mom's arrival at Onigashima, next week, with the bulk of Luffy's prison revolution being offscreen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    Y'all mark my words, the dude in the iron-works who reacts to the guards talking about the Smail disappearing is gonna be important. One of the old Yakuza bosses maybe? I think he'll be the face of the prisoners after Luffy rallies them into an army.
    Since the dude match perfectly one of the silhouettes of chapter 940, a lot of people already made that assumption
    Queen is back on his feet rather quickly,
    Queen was already awake in last chapter, only pretending to be KO so it is not a surprise he is back on his feet as soon as the opportunity arrises.

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    Luffy after Wano:


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    I'm kind of confused as to why Oda would go the trouble of giving Big Mom a mini-redemption arc, showing us she IS indeed capable of kindness and generosity, only to snatch it away short before any payoff for the sake of the plot. The only purpose for her whole amnesia journey was just to cause chaos in the prison so Luffy could escape (something that could have been achieved with any other character(s)).. and now she's whisked off to Kaido with zero character progression.
    The only way I see her character arc ending in a satisfying way is for her to get bonked on the head again during the end of the arc and go back to being innocent and nice. Otherwise, uh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Saturday View Post
    I'm kind of confused as to why Oda would go the trouble of giving Big Mom a mini-redemption arc, showing us she IS indeed capable of kindness and generosity, only to snatch it away short before any payoff for the sake of the plot. The only purpose for her whole amnesia journey was just to cause chaos in the prison so Luffy could escape (something that could have been achieved with any other character(s)).. and now she's whisked off to Kaido with zero character progression.
    The only way I see her character arc ending in a satisfying way is for her to get bonked on the head again during the end of the arc and go back to being innocent and nice. Otherwise, uh...
    Well she does remember everything thats happened while her memory was out. The arc is only in the later half of the second act. It's not as is she's sailed off crew and all until next time.
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    That's where Oda creativity trumps ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Saturday View Post
    I'm kind of confused as to why Oda would go the trouble of giving Big Mom a mini-redemption arc, showing us she IS indeed capable of kindness and generosity, only to snatch it away short before any payoff for the sake of the plot.
    That's basically the first third of Death Note.

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    Implying that Big Mom wasn't generous in her normal state. Her entire Kingdom is based on sharing and eating food - if you are with and not against her, that is.

    Her base personality didn't change at all, she just has 50+ years of being a tough yonkou bitch on her shoulders now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKageKing View Post
    That's basically the first third of Death Note.
    wait its been years since i read that. How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheChopper View Post
    wait its been years since i read that. How so?
    There was this part where Light purposely loses his memory and actually becomes a good guy, except that he gambled he would gain his memory back as soon as he got the Death Note back.

    Basically, it's what originated this.


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    Udon will be the new HQ for the alliance, once Luffy cleaned the place.
    The epic battle of BusterCall vs. Don is decided !!!
    And the results are 3:2 for Don..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Saturday View Post
    I'm kind of confused as to why Oda would go the trouble of giving Big Mom a mini-redemption arc, showing us she IS indeed capable of kindness and generosity, only to snatch it away short before any payoff for the sake of the plot. The only purpose for her whole amnesia journey was just to cause chaos in the prison so Luffy could escape (something that could have been achieved with any other character(s)).. and now she's whisked off to Kaido with zero character progression.
    The only way I see her character arc ending in a satisfying way is for her to get bonked on the head again during the end of the arc and go back to being innocent and nice. Otherwise, uh...
    Achieving redemption solely via memory loss would be a pretty cheap way for her character to progress. If she's ultimately gonna make a turn, she should be able to understand what she did in the past.

    And I'm not sure who else would be quite as capable of creating chaos in Udon without Queen posing a major threat to them, or who would stoke Queen enough to straight up abandon Luffy with a bunch of scrubs.



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