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    Compared to actually putting my money where my mouth is and supporting the authors & editors of this magazine I've loved for most of my life, can I be honest and say I don't give much of a fart? about Youtubers? revenue streams???
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    I say make the change, waiting till sunday wont be such a big deal once everybody gets accustomed to it.

    And considering the majority of the big one piece and other manga youtubers reacting to weekly chapters are living in the us, they should have no excuse of not waiting less than 2 days do react to the official release FOR FREE!

    Obviously their excuse will be that they have to cause scanlation kiddies will scream at them, but I hope they will make the change like RogersBase already did weeks ago.
    To support Viz and SHUEISHAs MANGA Plus service hosting all Jump manga for FREE, WORLDWIDE and day of release, Arlong Park will now support the official release.

    Official chapter discussions now start Sundays at Noon, EST.
    Please do not post threads when scan sites release their version.

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    The big OP Youtubers are like Roger, KOL, Tekking, Chibi, and Sawyer. Rogers is already doing it on Monday. Chibi said he is going to think hard about moving his reviews to Monday. I wouldn't be surprised if the bigger tubers shifted over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long John Silvers Rayleigh View Post
    I basically dont use twitter/youtube/instagram from the days the spoiler drop to the day the scan gets released. Id basically have to cut off all the social media for half the week or mute hundreds of words on twitter. I could do that if enough people held off on things and the big timers I follow followed suit.
    It is pretty much impossible to avoid spoilers this time and age, during dressrosa someone I barely know spoiled Sabo for me.. I'm still mad about it. It was on fb, freakn' fb.. I blocked all of that person's posts from appearing on my timeline. He posted a full page.. that day I didn't even know the chapter was out until I saw that page

    So yeah, I can use a vpn to subscribe viz..etc but that won't stop me from reading Scanlations. I do buy the physical viz translated volumes whenever they're available at kinokuniya though.

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    Theoretically, I'm all in favor of this. In practical terms... not so much. I think this will only slow down traffic and contribute to empty threads while scanlations continue to come out early. The first comprimise I thought about was to leave the new chapter discussion thread in the spoiler section until the official chapter is released, but then that would only stop discussion in the other general threads during half of the week. I have been subscribed to VIZ for a few years and that hasn't stopped me from reading chapters on Jaimini's every Friday morning and immediately coming here to AP to leave my thoughts on it. Then there's the youtube reviewers with some large followings, there's reddit, Oro Jackson... Too much competition which will probably keep on with the same routine despite this big change. Until they crack down on the guys who provide the early scans and shut this crap down for good, I think it just won't change. Only once scanlations start coming out on the same day/only a few hours before the official release, will they stop being relevant to a lot of people, unfortunately.

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    Another announcement, with more details:
    https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/new-s...p-simul-series

    Salient point:
    -JUMP series will be out noon PST every *Sunday*

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    So, best thing ever or best thing *ever*?

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    Two questions:
    1. If I just want to read One Piece, can I do that or have to read the whole book and skip the pages to said manga?
    2. The entire catalogue....like Ch. 1 to Ch. 925?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.C. Amigo View Post
    Two questions:
    1. If I just want to read One Piece, can I do that or have to read the whole book and skip the pages to said manga?
    2. The entire catalogue....like Ch. 1 to Ch. 925?
    1. There won't be a magazine anymore. Just individual series.
    2. Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCC View Post
    1. There won't be a magazine anymore. Just individual series.
    2. Yes.
    Well, god damn. And it releases the same day as Japan does, on Sunday (usually)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.C. Amigo View Post
    Well, god damn. And it releases the same day as Japan does, on Sunday (usually)?
    In Japan its actually on Monday... but... timezones. In theory it should be releasing Sunday at noon, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrior View Post
    I think this will only slow down traffic and contribute to empty threads while scanlations continue to come out early. The first comprimise I thought about was to leave the new chapter discussion thread in the spoiler section until the official chapter is released, but then that would only stop discussion in the other general threads during half of the week.
    It's only going to be a delay of about a day, since chapters will now hit on Sunday instead of Viz's current Monday. The initial couple chapters will probably be bumpy but if the community adjusts to it, it shouldn't be much different than things are now.

    And that's probably exactly what we're going to do, allow the spoiler thread to have discussion once the scans come out, but hold the official threads until the Sunday release. This might lead to the spoiler threads having all the traffic and the actual chapter discussions being dead, especially the first couple weeks where people get used to it, but we won't know until we try. Holding the official chapter thread and then providing only the official safe link should encourage people to support the official release an show SHueisha that yes, this is exactly what we want.

    If it's a complete disaster and doesn't work out, we can always go back to the current method after trying this for a couple months. (Fortunately/unfortunately, there's no OP chapter the first week of this change, we get one chapter, and then it's holiday break, so it's going to be a staggered experiment.)

    Then there's the youtube reviewers with some large followings, there's reddit, Oro Jackson... Too much competition which will probably keep on with the same routine despite this big change. Until they crack down on the guys who provide the early scans and shut this crap down for good, I think it just won't change.
    It won't change unless we try! And this is probably the best opportunity we'll ever have. ANd it sounds like alot of the youtubers are switching to official release discussion anyway?

    Only once scanlations start coming out on the same day/only a few hours before the official release, will they stop being relevant to a lot of people, unfortunately.
    And that's why we're trying to encourage the official release! The bootlegs aren't going to be beating it by that much anymore.
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    When you work from 1-9:30 EST every Sunday...

    Oh god that kind of hurts even more than the current Monday time. I refuse to read OP on a phone so that day is gonna drag hard
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    I like that idea. Regulating spoilers and scanlation discussion into the spoiler side of the forum and posting official chapter threads on Sunday.
    For some, it'll take some getting used to, but it's the right direction for the forums to take.

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    Smash had me completelly numbed from this news.

    So, for the next year, at least until september, I will have FULL JUMP Backlog (at least all series that were released in english)? Do you know if it's changing app or it is the same one? It would be bad for me if they checked locations by downloaded series tho..

    Changing would mean some either apk hunting or vpn jumping, update aparently is just handled by amazon without a care in the world for me, I even changed into a new phone without issue.

    Iv'e paying for jump from outside the english jump zone for 4 years now.

    I vote "let's go legit-ish-er", without thinking about the consequences. Gintama is almost over, with a little prodding they will put Jojo part 8 in, we have the least to lose now.
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    Hmm, sounds like a good idea but I'm not 100% sure about this. However, if you want to do it, go right ahead. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    And that's why we're trying to encourage the official release! The bootlegs aren't going to be beating it by that much anymore.
    Do it, but do it with a don!
    Even in the spoiler threads, the first post should always link to the official offer and how people can access it. Preferrably with a small guide/ faq for new people who need it. Maybe even with that big yellow banner we used for the Character Tournament or the AP Awards!


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    There doesn't seem to be information clear on the Viz site, but next week do we open a new Weekly Shonen Jump issue, or do I just navigate to the One Piece page and then read that chapter directly? Because I would vastly prefer the latter than the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    Do it, but do it with a don!
    Even in the spoiler threads, the first post should always link to the official offer and how people can access it. Preferrably with a small guide/ faq for new people who need it. Maybe even with that big yellow banner we used for the Character Tournament or the AP Awards!
    I like this idea.
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    Amazing! Will stay subbed as long as One Piece continues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCC View Post
    1. There won't be a magazine anymore. Just individual series.
    2. Yes.
    Amazing. Like others have said, I also will support by no longer participating in theory threads until Sunday

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