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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobodyman
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    And yeah, Kaecilius is pretty much just another stock villian, but...I don't know. I think he kind of worked. The face-off between him and Strange when he was in the restraining suit was pretty cool.
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    Kaecilius is actually a complete nobody in the comics; he's just a named, semi-recurring minion of Mordo's that popped up in an early story line. So him being a stock villain that was just the stooge for the real villain was the intent from the start.


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    I liked how Dormammu was stopped.

    In the comics he never dealt with bad guys directly, like overpowering them, since they were usually way way stronger yes?
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    Outside of human sorcerers, who occasionally rivaled him in power, yes. Pretty much all of the Strange villains are outright gods and Stephen usually had to resort to outwitting them or just running away. Well, for the people that would work against that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    There are also no billionaires with flying mecha suits. Alternate universe, they can stretch real world things a little here and there. Or just have the group be not from Africa but still be concerned with issues.
    Yeah. You can always say they were immigrants from over a thousand years ago or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    Wait, what?

    There are no Asians in Africa! I mean, I'm happy to see more Asians in movies, but not this way!
    You want diversity in movies but yet, you don't want movies to change.

    Jokes aside I wonder how hard could it be to round up a group of black people for a movie set in a fictional African country it's not like all of them need to have speaking roles or anything.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Just got back from seeing Doctor Strange with friends. It was a packed theater.

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    We all loved the movie. Hands down, the Cape was the best character. It stole the show and had the best comedic moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_vs_Red View Post
    You want diversity in movies but yet, you don't want movies to change.

    Jokes aside I wonder how hard could it be to round up a group of black people for a movie set in a fictional African country it's not like all of them need to have speaking roles or anything.
    From what I'm hearing its mostly stunt men and women. Especially black women. There are just not many of us in the industry. They want men and women who can fight and fall. For an African nation set in the MCU I can see how it could be a bit tough to cast. But then I don't really know first hand, I'm just hearing talks around town...

    Every day I'm just waiting for that call. Every time that phone rings with some weird number or a hollywood area code my heart beats just a little faster than usual. I'm pretty light skinned but I'm sure there some mixed black dudes in Wakanda, right? RIGHT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanceDawn View Post
    From what I'm hearing its mostly stunt men and women. Especially black women. There are just not many of us in the industry.
    Well shit that I can understand now.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_vs_Red View Post
    Jokes aside I wonder how hard could it be to round up a group of black people for a movie set in a fictional African country it's not like all of them need to have speaking roles or anything.
    That's mostly what I'm harrumphing about. How HARD is it to get a bunch of black actors? They don't need to be named actors, there's plenty kicking around Hollywood, I'm sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanceDawn View Post
    From what I'm hearing its mostly stunt men and women. Especially black women. There are just not many of us in the industry. They want men and women who can fight and fall. For an African nation set in the MCU I can see how it could be a bit tough to cast. But then I don't really know first hand, I'm just hearing talks around town...

    Every day I'm just waiting for that call. Every time that phone rings with some weird number or a hollywood area code my heart beats just a little faster than usual. I'm pretty light skinned but I'm sure there some mixed black dudes in Wakanda, right? RIGHT!
    Ah. Yeah, I'm sure stunt women are scarce.

    But don't give up! The movie isn't finished yet!

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    Am I the only one who hated the Wifi joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstClassCook View Post
    Am I the only one who hated the Wifi joke?
    I've already snickered at it during the trailer. During the film, I didn't laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrano View Post
    I've already snickered at it during the trailer. During the film, I didn't laugh.
    Yeah, it just didn't do it for me at all. I legit groned during the joke.

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    I honestly don't think all the comparisons between Strange and Stark are entirely valid; I mean, I get it, rich witty arrogant playboy with a beard, but Strange
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    develops so much more in the movie. By the end, he truly feels like a humbled, changed man who has severed connections to pretty much everything in his old life, and has had to develop an entirely new skillset. Stark is still living the very ublic high-life with his loved ones, and is still using his old skills, just for suits instead of weapons. Ultimately, Strange comes across as genuinely more altruistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstClassCook View Post
    Yeah, it just didn't do it for me at all. I legit groned during the joke.
    Yeah probably because we heard it quite a few times already.

    Laughed at the Beyonce joke though.
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    So Doctor Strange

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    The movie was fine.

    The humor did not really work well on me on the first part. Mostly because it really felt like (to me) unecessary and simply mandated by Marvel because it's part of their brand. On the other hand the origin story worked well. He felt as arrogant as he should be, little interest on his patient at an emotional level and carefully choosing the right patients that can bring a challenge without to much risk.

    Then the accident hits and the real story gets going. Those hands of his legitimately felt fucked up and I liked that he made a comment about how he could have done better (not necessarily true but the kind of reaction I expected from such arrogant surgeon). The following struggle to try to get on the top of his game once again feels real. I like how he constantly brings up his experience as a doctor to estimate his chance and find a solution. It particularly hits home when he lash out at his ex-lover in the middle of his anger after realizing he lost all of his options and he doesn't even seems to feel sorry for what he said.

    I appreciate that the cult is the last place he visits and that it someone who he saw the case file of the miraculous discovery that leads him to it. He really have no other options and even when he does face the miracle worker he again brings his medical background to try to make sense of it. Considering how he lost everything and is a man of challenge it is not really surprising that he would be that interested in this art that can either let him discover a new side to life or give him back his old one.

    The magic training was interesting and cool visually. Astral projection to study, stealing books from the library(was somewhat funny). The whole having to let go and accept the universe was pretty well conveyed. Once strange gets the eye and he magic works I really starts enjoying the whole package including the humor.

    So the guy he was talking about in the car was war-machine? I thought I should recognized it but I wasn't sure why.

    The villain was boring but I don't think he was suppose to be more than that. Domamu was supposed to be the real challenge.

    That last joke they build up with Wong laughing worked pretty damn well on me.

    I like the ancient one. She one to get the job done before anything else. Although I wonder if the other ancient ones did the same to live long or just her.She was a pretty great mentor to strange.

    Technically at the end of the movie, Strange is still not the sorcerer supreme , is he?

    That second end credit was gruesome with how the guy is crippling has the magic is getting sucked out of him.

    The magic was much more physical than I expected. It felt traditional martial art mix with portals ring. The closest to how I imagine the magic would work was revealed to be an infinity stone(totally forgot about those for a moment). Did he keep the eye? because he replenish Thor's cup without problem.

    I agree with Daz on how Strange's experience seems to have change more deeply than Stark. He feels more humble and having really changed perspective on how life worksand what is important.

    The cape was probably the best secondary character but he did give an awkward tried at humor when Strange is trying to get the ax but the cape won't let him. He stays on that joke a little to long.

    The best moment is definitely the resolution of the conflict
    "Domamu I've come to bargain"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    I honestly don't think all the comparisons between Strange and Stark are entirely valid; I mean, I get it, rich witty arrogant playboy with a beard, but Strange
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    develops so much more in the movie. By the end, he truly feels like a humbled, changed man who has severed connections to pretty much everything in his old life, and has had to develop an entirely new skillset. Stark is still living the very ublic high-life with his loved ones, and is still using his old skills, just for suits instead of weapons. Ultimately, Strange comes across as genuinely more altruistic
    to be fair, even at the beginning, Strange was set up to be more emphatic and caring than Tony inherently due to being a doctor.

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    It's the ego and arrogance that drive home the parallels. For all we know, in future films, we'll see Dtrange being the arrrogant jerk to those in the Universe who doesn't understand magic and trying to wield its power just like he was a smug jerk to Nick for not being as good of a surgeon. Mind you, he's still in training at this point and has much to learn.

    And while he's cognizant of the dangers that too much power can have in a way Tony seems blinded by (as shown when returning the Eye back to its original place) he's still holds that mad scientist / can do no wrong attitude when he decided to mess with the Laws of nature because he seemed it necessary. He never even acknowledges that Mordo probably made good points at the end about how messing with the laws of nature causes it's fair share of evil (like Vision pointed out, which I'm guessing is a Phase 3 trend?) Bet the question would be if prepping to stop beings like Thanos is worth having the superheroes do what they do.
    But I saw Strange as essentially Dr. House if instead of Vicodin he went into Eastern Medicine and learned magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
    to be fair, even at the beginning, Strange was set up to be more emphatic and caring than Tony inherently due to being a doctor.

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    It's the ego and arrogance that drive home the parallels. For all we know, in future films, we'll see Dtrange being the arrrogant jerk to those in the Universe who doesn't understand magic and trying to wield its power just like he was a smug jerk to Nick for not being as good of a surgeon. Mind you, he's still in training at this point and has much to learn.

    And while he's cognizant of the dangers that too much power can have in a way Tony seems blinded by (as shown when returning the Eye back to its original place) he's still holds that mad scientist / can do no wrong attitude when he decided to mess with the Laws of nature because he seemed it necessary. He never even acknowledges that Mordo probably made good points at the end about how messing with the laws of nature causes it's fair share of evil (like Vision pointed out, which I'm guessing is a Phase 3 trend?) Bet the question would be if prepping to stop beings like Thanos is worth having the superheroes do what they do.
    But I saw Strange as essentially Dr. House if instead of Vicodin he went into Eastern Medicine and learned magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    I honestly don't think all the comparisons between Strange and Stark are entirely valid; I mean, I get it, rich witty arrogant playboy with a beard, but Strange
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    develops so much more in the movie. By the end, he truly feels like a humbled, changed man who has severed connections to pretty much everything in his old life, and has had to develop an entirely new skillset. Stark is still living the very ublic high-life with his loved ones, and is still using his old skills, just for suits instead of weapons. Ultimately, Strange comes across as genuinely more altruistic
    Don't forget the spurned love interest that's too good for him but keeps him grounded (relatively).

    Naturally, as they're 2 different characters with 2 different experiences their paths and development will differ but I still got a lot of Tony Stark vibes radiating off of Dr. Strange for half of the film.
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    Doctor Strange
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    In no specific order

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    Comparisons between Strange and Stark also don't help given a lot of Marvel films go through the same formula, and the originator of that was Stark and Iron Man. And yeah, Strange/Stark has it more than the others, but all Marvel films nowadays has a snarky hero who is flawed in some respects but a genius in others (and usually is cocky) that ends up fighting some bad guy that seems to use the same ability as our hero, just a darker version. Oh, and the hero has a love interest/teased with a girl even though the main hero is attractive enough to get any woman he wants (and usually he knows it too).

    I just recall some people making ties to Ant Man and Iron Man too, along with Tony/Scott, though admittedly Strange/Stark have more similarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
    to be fair, even at the beginning, Strange was set up to be more emphatic and caring than Tony inherently due to being a doctor.
    Huh? Act 1 Strange was far more of a giant, unempathic asshole than Tony ever was, specifically due to the type of doctor he was.

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    Strange outright refuses to treat difficult patients that might stain his "perfect record", choosing only ones "worthy of his talents", which may make him look good. He is clearly more invested in his legacy, doing talks and having procedures named after him than actually saving lives. This type of Doctor absolutely exists; I've met and known several people who became doctors because the pay and prestige is great, and their grades are so good that "might as well". Over the course of the movie Strange learns to appreciate the true value of being a Doctor (helping others, not killing people), and leaves actual doctoring behind altogether in order to protect even more people.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
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    It's the ego and arrogance that drive home the parallels. For all we know, in future films, we'll see Dtrange being the arrrogant jerk to those in the Universe who doesn't understand magic and trying to wield its power just like he was a smug jerk to Nick for not being as good of a surgeon. Mind you, he's still in training at this point and has much to learn.

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    And in the end Strange hands over Nick the scalpel, lets him do the operation, and abandons the profession that defined his entire identity. Wong, Mordo and the ancient one constantly belittle and dismantle his arrogance. And he DOESN'T GET THE GIRL. The girl leaves him in the hospital to go do her job, because life isn't about you, Strange. From where he starts in the movie Strange loses pretty much everything that defines him: his hands, his profession, his closest relation, and is left alone in the sactum, and unseeen and unknown protector of the world. Tony has Peppet Potts, worldwide fame and luxury, and publically flies around in his awesome Iron Man suit, because he loves doing it. Dr. Strange would have a thing or two to tell Tony Stark about growing up.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
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    And while he's cognizant of the dangers that too much power can have in a way Tony seems blinded by (as shown when returning the Eye back to its original place) he's still holds that mad scientist / can do no wrong attitude when he decided to mess with the Laws of nature because he seemed it necessary. He never even acknowledges that Mordo probably made good points at the end about how messing with the laws of nature causes it's fair share of evil (like Vision pointed out, which I'm guessing is a Phase 3 trend?) Bet the question would be if prepping to stop beings like Thanos is worth having the superheroes do what they do.
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    I think its unfair to call it "mad science/can do no wrong" attitude. Strange manipulating time to trick Dormammu and restore and reverse Kaecelius' damage is far more reasoned and defensible than Tony Stark building another super-robot and crossing his fingers that "it'll probably work this time. We're mad scientists bro!". Plus, him returning the eye also means that purposefully lets his watch and hands stay broken, as a reminder to himself, as he stands alone in his sanctum.


    I fully agree that theres similarities to be found between Strange and Tony, but I think they develop and end up decidedly different. Ultimately, I think Stranges development is just greater than Tonys (partially because Strange starts off as an asshole), and that he actually sacrifices something.

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