Chapter 921: Shutenmaru

[Blissed]

Why'd he change his name though? I mean if they already know it's him what's the point lol

still if it is him I bet him and Zoro meet up, you know the whole Ashura connection, I'm really hoping Oda will give us an explanation on his most ridiculously random power up ever lol

maybe give us some backstory on what ashura is and how it works

There's a connection now just because his name has Ashura in it? I don't know about that.

[desa]

Why'd he change his name though? I mean if they already know it's him what's the point lol

still if it is him I bet him and Zoro meet up, you know the whole Ashura connection, I'm really hoping Oda will give us an explanation on his most ridiculously random power up ever lol

maybe give us some backstory on what ashura is and how it works

Probably changed it when he went into hiding.

[Kurloz]

Tsuru is too good for Kinemon

[choperman]

There's a connection now just because his name has Ashura in it? I don't know about that.

I'm not saying it's a 100% certain, but Damn it I'd really like an explanation as to what ashura is, and seeing how strong he is maybe he could teach zoro how to use said mode while the the others go about there business

I mean Sanji's got a raid suit, zoro's gonna need something to even the playing fields

EDIT: Just now realizing the awful Zoro vs Sanji who's stronger debate i just unknowingly unleashed upon this innocent thread

[ImmaIvanoM]

Tsuru is too good for Kinemon

And she’s too old apparently... I think Oda is setting up a bitter sweet situation here

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I'm not saying it's a 100% certain, but Damn it I'd really like an explanation as to what ashura is, and seeing how strong he is maybe he could teach zoro how to use said mode while the the others go about there business

I mean Sanji's got a raid suit, zoro's gonna need something to even the playing fields

EDIT: Just now realizing the awful Zoro vs Sanji who's stronger debate i just unknowingly unleashed upon this innocent thread

Ha you think these Wano Samurai are stronger than Zoro? I can admit Zoro could learn a thing or two like how he wants to learn how to cut fire from Kin’emon but saying Kin’emon or this Shutenmaru guy are actually stronger than him is too much

[choperman]

And she’s too old apparently... I think Oda is setting up a bitter sweet situation here

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Ha you think these Wano Samurai are stronger than Zoro? I can admit Zoro could learn a thing or two like how he wants to learn how to cut fire from Kin’emon but saying Kin’emon or this Shutenmaru guy are actually stronger than him is too much

Not saying stronger pers say, just knows something about the ashura transformation that zoro doesn't and I mean he did just go toe to toe with Jack a billion bounty and one of the three calamities.... so he's no slouch either

[I♥Taeyeon]

I'm not saying it's a 100% certain, but Damn it I'd really like an explanation as to what ashura is, and seeing how strong he is maybe he could teach zoro how to use said mode while the the others go about there business

I mean Sanji's got a raid suit, zoro's gonna need something to even the playing fields

EDIT: Just now realizing the awful Zoro vs Sanji who's stronger debate i just unknowingly unleashed upon this innocent thread

Too late. Already am triggerd. Haha. Just kidding.
On a serious note, it's been speculated that Zoro's always been handicapped throughout the whole Grandline Saga with Mihawk's slash on the Baratie Arc and on top of Kuma's punishment that it took him the 2 year time skip to fully recover. So it's not that hard to imagine or even consider that Zoro has eclipsed Sanji in terms of fighting prowess and that the former's strength should be compared to Luffy instead since they're the main fighters of the crew. Sanji's become more of a utility guy that fails to shine unlike the cunning Mr. Prince he used to be.

[Watch-man]

Sanji phrased in two different ways his words to Okiku. I mean scene where in one translation he says that she should wait till she sees his heroic deeds and in second translation he says for her to wait and see his gallant form.. which one is proper translation?

[auem]

So... I'm guessing Shanks was at Mariejoa to tell the elders about Kaido being king. Given the fact that Kaido destroyed the Kozuki clan (the people whose ancestors carved the poneglyphs) and that he wants to make sure they stay dead, Ym probably wants him to stay in power.

I don't know why the WG never destroyed Wano, but I'm assuming they can't for some reason.

So far Oda has been flimsy regarding Wano's status with WG. It is hard to believe WG would be clueless about a nation which doesn't obey it. There is more reason to infiltrate and get information of what is going on inside Wano. So it makes little sense that Shank needs to inform Gorosei about it, least after all these years.

Since other than with WhiteBeard( as a consequence of Ace), WG seem to never sought open confrontation with Yonkous. So if they actually know that Wano is Kaidou's true base of operation, it makes sense that Gorosei made the judgement not to attack it. Of course marines(at least most of them) being out of loop is easy to understand.

[Hisoga]

so Shutenmaru and ashura douji were based on Shutendouji?
if yes, then I hope his sword is a famous sword called Doujigiri

[game2005]

“I want to die and I want the rest of the world to die.” This is pretty damn nihilistic to me. I guess Oda was being hyperbolic in some regards because these sort of words surely would give you the impression this guy is over the edge

That doesn't apply to the way he rules his territory, though.

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It actually took me until like 30 seconds ago to realize Shinobu is a pun with shinobi...

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Shinobu is actually a common name for girls in Japan.

[ImmaIvanoM]

That doesn't apply to the way he rules his territory, though.

yeah and thats the question I asked, Why is this nihilist so into maintaining this charade of being a wise king?... Theres definitely some story here. Hes not even like Big mom who created Totland herself, he took over Wano for some reason and has been Shadow ruling it as well, while also trying to commit suicide and kill everything that exists... This is pretty damn weird

[auem]

It actually took me until like 30 seconds ago to realize Shinobu is a pun with shinobi...

Shinobu is a very common name/part of name in Japan.For example,
Creator of the manga 'Magi:The Labyrinth of Magic' is Shinobu Ohtaka( female).
Screenwriter of Roshomon and Seven Samurai was Shinobu Hashimoto(male).

[Sereques]

I'm glad Kaidou is a Zoan DF user as expected. I hate it when bosses have gimmicky DF, this will be an all out brawl base on strength.

[blue-san]

That thief was obviously one of the underlings of Oven though

Even if he was we are talking about a yonkou seriously badass commander there. This is beyond just strong

[Blissed]

I'm glad Kaidou is a Zoan DF user as expected. I hate it when bosses have gimmicky DF, this will be an all out brawl base on strength.

Who's to say he doesn't have a gimmick, like something as simple as breathing fire?

[Candide]

"Bu" is also a word for fat, so it's a two for one.

Lol it took me until now to realize the pun in DBZ Boo...

Sanji phrased in two different ways his words to Okiku. I mean scene where in one translation he says that she should wait till she sees his heroic deeds and in second translation he says for her to wait and see his gallant form.. which one is proper translation?

Maybe something like "Sanji, the Knight "...

[Lord of Chaos]

So... I'm guessing Shanks was at Mariejoa to tell the elders about Kaido being king. Given the fact that Kaido destroyed the Kozuki clan (the people whose ancestors carved the poneglyphs) and that he wants to make sure they stay dead, Ym probably wants him to stay in power.

I don't know why the WG never destroyed Wano, but I'm assuming they can't for some reason.

He was theeeto tell them the truth about BB.

[AvocadoInTheRain]

Why'd he change his name though? I mean if they already know it's him what's the point lol

still if it is him I bet him and Zoro meet up, you know the whole Ashura connection, I'm really hoping Oda will give us an explanation on his most ridiculously random power up ever lol

maybe give us some backstory on what ashura is and how it works

I don't know what the manga is going to do with his name, but there's a real mythical character called Shuten-Doji. So it seems pretty likely that Ashura-doji and Shutenmaru are referring to the same character.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuten-d%C5%8Dji

[Nilitch]

Even if he was we are talking about a yonkou seriously badass commander there. This is beyond just strong

You're right, but I'm actually glad that there are people way stronger than people like Jack. Otherwise, it would mean that fights and power-levels are gonna become boring after this arc

Also, yeah, I guess that's what we should expect from a kingdom feared by the WG itself