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  • Tama

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  • Carrot

    108 35.18%
  • Caribou

    12 3.91%
  • Momo

    10 3.26%
  • Kinemon

    9 2.93%
  • Hiyori

    4 1.30%
  • Bonney

    9 2.93%
  • Pekoms

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  • Vivi

    26 8.47%
  • Kawamatsu

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  • None of the above

    99 32.25%
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    Quote Originally Posted by choperman View Post
    You really think that some cover page with Nekomamushi and some cats is a foreshadowing of the amount of crewmembers at the end for the Strawhats? Why?


    Carrot's still never gonna join the crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Black Hole View Post
    You really think that some cover page with Nekomamushi and some cats is a foreshadowing of the amount of crewmembers at the end for the Strawhats? Why?
    Mostly just messing around, just thought it was a weird coincidence, and I know how this thread was terrorized by AGOG because he thought Perona would join and I just couldn't resist

    I know Perona's not going to join and we will more than likely only have 11 members (10 + Luffy)

    Still would like 13 members but ahhh well probs not gonna happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Absalom and Pedro are two different cases.
    neither of those characters provided a corpse, they just went with it ala Vivi, so yeah, laughing and sobbing is no confirmation.



    my 'wishful' thinking is reality as of now, plus I remember being told Pedro would be brough up as soon as Carrot and Inu reunited, and to begin with, said 'super important' reunion was off-screened.
    Two different cases, yet you dismiss them both the same way. We didn't have to see the bullet in Mr. 11's head to know he was dead. The people who found him said he was dead, so we have to take it on faith. Oda made it clear that Pedro and Absalom are to be considered dead as we left their respective stories, just as he made Pell's survival clear before the story letf Alabasta.

    Noe excuse me, are you quoting "super important" as if someone actually said that? Who ever said anything about it being the first thing we'd see, as soon as they're reunited? All I ever said, myself, is that Carrot would fill them in, and that maybe it would lead to some deeper discussion. I expect Dogstorm to say something about Pedro, given his conspicuous absence and importance to the Minks. Whether that leads to anything for Cartot is obviously conjecture on my part, but c'mon, Pedro is getting his due from the duke at some point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Lady Toki could've sent her earlier in time, there's one retainer missing from the flashback, so there's some hinting.
    I'm going to point out that while I can't say that isn't a possibility, personally there's no reason to believe Tama would want to go out to sea with Ace if she was patiently waiting for the members of the Kozuki Clan to return. Not to mention that Tama was 5 when Ace came to visit, so unless you're saying that Tama, being Hiyori, was dropped off into a poverty-ridden area with no noticeable retainer that Kinemon never mentioned, that's 3 years of blank history.

    If you want to speculate who Hiyori could be, why not speculate the lady wearing the fox-mask or something? Since it has been like 20 years since Oden's castle was overrun and her age would fit the description at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaOfHope View Post
    I'm going to point out that while I can't say that isn't a possibility, personally there's no reason to believe Tama would want to go out to sea with Ace if she was patiently waiting for the members of the Kozuki Clan to return. Not to mention that Tama was 5 when Ace came to visit, so unless you're saying that Tama, being Hiyori, was dropped off into a poverty-ridden area with no noticeable retainer that Kinemon never mentioned, that's 3 years of blank history.

    If you want to speculate who Hiyori could be, why not speculate the lady wearing the fox-mask or something? Since it has been like 20 years since Oden's castle was overrun and her age would fit the description at least.
    Kin'emon was sent to a different time, there's probably no way he knows what happened to the missing retainer and Hiyori, him not mentioning it makes perfect sense.
    plus, Hitetsu(who's mysteriously waiting for someone) takes care of her.
    and If Hiyori was 4 when time travelled, then probably she doesn't remembers it at all.
    the hints are right there to me, even in this latest chapter Tama's loose hair looks a lot more like Hiyori's sillhouete from the fb.

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    Tama ain't joining, no kid that little and weak is joining the SH's and after having my hopes crushed with Mansherry (dwarf Princess) Raizo (our first Ninja) Ashura (who I was hoping would be a Yokai king) and a grandma Ninja who was thoroughly Underwhelming I can't get myself excited for characters who "might" be straw hat pirate material, so yeah Hiyori might have a chance but I'm not all over that theory

    would love if it turned out that Kaido brainwashed her to becoming his ally, like all for one did with Tomura Shigaraki or Shredder did with Karai

    that would explain the traitor to the minks also

    Also people might think I'm insane, but if they don't have a chapter dedicated to there death I'm not buying it

    also if our last crewmember happens to be just a little girl, or a generic bunny girl who didn't even get put on the latest cover (which seemed to be a huge deal when she was on one of the previous covers and now apparently means nothing at all that she's excluded from this one, for..... reasons???)when we've had a 7 level transforming Reindeer, a Hawaiian shirt and speedo wearing cyborg with a blue pompadour, a gentlemen skeleton with an Afro and Rock & Roll apparel, and a shichibukai whale shark Fishman.... if it doesn't live up that type of hype I'll be..... well... disappointed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solid View Post
    I'm not comparing Tama to Carrot in anyway, but it seems inevitably since Carrot got a few panels of worth in the latter half of WCI.
    Yes, naturally I’ll be comparing her to Carrot. She and Jinbe are the ones set to join as far as I’m concerned, and not merely because of “a few panels of worth”. But don’t get me wrong, the problems I see with Tama are still there when compared to any current member of the crew, as well.

    Nami, Usopp, Chopper are characters that are much weaker than their companions. Yet, they’re clever and have resolve to save themselves in fights against enemies who could easily kill them. Tama nearly was killed. She was relying on a familiar to protect her, and that failed. She has nothing else to fall back on besides that party trick. Any of those SHs could come up with any number of strategies to make it through, or at least use their own leg power to get themselves out of there. Tama simply doesn’t have the basic physical capabilities to defend herself, so the drama would either come from her getting a convenient familiar every time, or have someone on the crew jumping in to take on her fights. That would fly once, not for the entire series.

    The same goes for the Sea King thing. If Tama was taming one, just one, that’d be fine. But we’d have to have that power used any time a Sea King or Sea Beast ever comes back, or else have her conveniently absent again, or just have no more monsters at sea. Where’s the drama in that?

    In terms of social roles, she would be the little sister of the crew.
    We have ages from 17 to 90, as you can see theres one group not represented, and that is kids.
    Oda is great at writing and developing kid characters, just look at Robins, Frankys and Laws flashbacks.
    But what makes her on par with any of those flashback children? Or any child character up to now? I could draw comparisons to Aisa from Skypiea, who also had a pretty nifty ability. Or filler-y Apis who was adored by the crew and would have made a fine Straw Hat in their eyes. And of course, all of us hated her.

    In group aesthetics she is also filling a missing role, the last three crewmembers been big and muscular, tall and skinny, big and round. As we can see the in the cover of volume 91, a small and feminine character fits in perfectly.
    Carrot has that aesthetic too, in a non-lolicon sorta way. She’s certainly fit for the role of being a little sister. She literally calls Chopper Cho-niki, Cho-bro, big bro Chopper.

    There is some room for development of her power, as we saw when she tamed Speed and was surprised herself that it worked on human, that is basically mind controlling. Add some kunoichi tricks to that and she will have a decent movepool.
    She is not yet a kunoichi, and you're basically hoping she’ll become one, and a great one at that, by the end of the arc. As for Speed, one could make the argument the Smile fruit made her literally and permanently half a real animal, so that’s why the dango worked on her.

    I don't think we will have to worry about getting tired of it, it is not like we will see her use it in every chapter, how often do we even see Chopper changing forms? How many times have we've seen Brooks utilize his spirit form? The abilities are there but mostly only used when necessary.
    All the time. We literally saw Guard Point last chapter. Brook’s power was a major part of the battle against Big Mom. These powers are a big part of who they are, as much as their designs and personalities. Tama’s power would have to be utilized quite a bit to make it worthwhile, and by the same token, it’s way too broken and could easily ruin any suspense left when dealing with the giant monsters of the OP world.

    That was more of an example of Oda not being completely foreign for the ability, we've had Luffy do it a few times with the kungfu dugongs and Ucy, Jinbei with whalesharks, Shirahoshi with seakings, and Momo with Zou. It is a legit power and why not have a specialist of it in the crew?
    Like I said before, it’s not strictly the power that’s the problem. With proper checks and balances, a beat tamer could be interesting. But as it stands now, the power and Tama wielding it is merely a plot device, a MacGuffin meant to give the bad guys a reason to chase after her. But more than that, she’s not ready to find creative uses for that power. In someone else’s hands, maybe. But you can’t teach a kid to use the microwave and expect fine dining.

    I think you forgot that Tama is a sick and malnourished child, she is a strong fighter at hearth though and that is what counts.
    What counts, among the various other things we’ve discussed, is that being a strong fighter period is what counts. She’s not Luffy, she’s not going to get insta-buffed with a proper meal. She’s not yet a kunoichi or even a real fighter, she hasn't learned to take care of herself like Nami, and she isn’t going to magically gain those essential skills in two weeks.

    Anyway, Ace made a promise to bring her to her crew, and Luffy will surely fulfil it, that will happen after the arc is done or in the series epilogue, I think it will happen after the arc for reasons written before.
    Epilogue is one thing, someday is one thing. I don’t see it happening at the end of this arc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Kin'emon was sent to a different time, there's probably no way he knows what happened to the missing retainer and Hiyori, him not mentioning it makes perfect sense.
    plus, Hitetsu(who's mysteriously waiting for someone) takes care of her.
    and If Hiyori was 4 when time travelled, then probably she doesn't remembers it at all.
    the hints are right there to me, even in this latest chapter Tama's loose hair looks a lot more like Hiyori's sillhouete from the fb.
    This is something I can actually agree with. Shutenmaru was really Ashura Doji, Tama could easily be Hiyori. No one who would know like Dogstorm has deconfirmed it yet.
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    Will AGOG return from his banishment if Perona actually shows up in Wano?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    still quite early in the arc but so far I been right to think Oda would easily avoid Carrot/Inu to talk about Pedro's fake death, excusing it with how action-packed Wano will be.
    one day has passed already, Carrot is right there with Inu, there's a prison break mission and several characters yet to be introduced, so Oda still has stuff to keep going on with Pedro unmentioned.

    Which puts Pedro's fate to share more similarities with Igaram/Pell rather than Ace/Shirohige.
    No, this doesn't make sense.

    Even if Pedro was alive, Inuarashi would notice that, well, he isn't there while he was supposed to. This doesn't prove that Pedro is alive, and this possibility doesn't change the reaction Inuarashi should have. There's no logic to this thought process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Absalom and Pedro are two different cases.
    neither of those characters provided a corpse, they just went with it ala Vivi, so yeah, laughing and sobbing is no confirmation.
    Even with Oda being Oda... Absalom is probably dead. None of the usual "there's ambiguity"or "there was a cloud of smoke" or "the death dagger is shown next to the victim instead of in them in the next chapter" or whatnot. Oda is making zero vagaries here.

    There's an identified corpse, (even if we readers don't see it) credible witnesses (endgame villains who need their threat and credibility level raised a little), immediate reactions from those affected, and a passed on devil fruit. Devil fruits passing after death is one of THE hard rules of the series. The narration box even clearly states what fruit it is, so no trickery or similar fruit involved.

    Plus Absalom is one of he more disposable villains, as a rapist he wasn't likely getting redeemed, same way parent murderers like Arlong and Hody aren't allowed to be redeemed.

    Unless Blackbeard can extract them from living victims but if he could I'd think he would have taken Ace's logia at the time, and been more willing to deal with admirals.

    The weird thing is why did he set him up as the sneaky secret photographer if this was going to be the angle.


    That said, Zombie Absalom with a different personality later isn't out of the question at all, and that may be why Oda feels okay with killing this particular character. And I still expect Monet to be alive.
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    I recall Oda saying off-hand in a SBS that he didn't particularly care for Absalom, so yeah, he dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IORI_17 View Post
    Oda state him as black and white, and honestly I see him more black than white do to his dressing and his bones always been hide. Plus, in this colourspread he's dressed in black (greyish black? I don't know how to call it). I think in a scenario like this a white-dressed character would fit.
    Non-sense thought: what if Jinbe became the white one? He's the knight of the sea, and honorable knights usually are white

    Just with this picture, we have 11 colors on the rainbow. Each character had one (except Brook in black), but its missing two blue. I think one is for Jinbe. Franky seems had a blue-green and Sanji the blue. So there remains one light-blue and a dark-purple. And has Brook is black, maybe we'll have one white..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugeeking View Post
    No, this doesn't make sense.

    Even if Pedro was alive, Inuarashi would notice that, well, he isn't there while he was supposed to. This doesn't prove that Pedro is alive, and this possibility doesn't change the reaction Inuarashi should have. There's no logic to this thought process.
    Oda not milking Pedro' death is fishy enough.
    as I said is still early in the arc, but if keeps going unmentioned, the fishyness will just increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    Oda not milking Pedro' death is fishy enough.
    as I said is still early in the arc, but if keeps going unmentioned, the fishyness will just increase.
    I get what you mean but you are not taking context into account. If Pedro is not mentioned, this doesn't change that basically all the people who were with him in WC and are now in Wano think he's dead, and this is the information they came to Wano with. Inuarashi as far as we know doesn't have information on this so whatever his reaction is doesn't account for confirming or denying the death. Basically you are making this speculation based on Oda's track record instead of context, and what context dictates is that lack of mention does not equal him being alive, not for the people involved.

    I do expect this to be mentioned because, you know, his absence is noticeable, but I have to admit, I was bugged by the strange use of ellipsis here by Oda basically solving the Tama issue and yet not bringing up Pedro. But on your other examples, this is not like Igaram's case when the whole country was at war and it took them even a while to notice that Vivi had returned, or (not yet at least) like Pell's case when he had an off-screened funeral.

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    Sould we reopen the thread ?
    http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t...ighlight=Death

    I'm not sure we would have the same poll results nowadays.

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    Pedro was Nekomamushiís man right?... And Wandaís friend... So the news of his death would mostly matter to them than Inuarashi... I for one think this is good writing by Oda since the Story dictates that Inuarashi is the first person Carrot meets but then again thatís not where the emotional hook of the situation can be explored so he off screens that particular meeting since it would most likely amount to a soldier telling a general that another soldier died which doesnít carry as much weight as telling a child hood friend of the dead soldier that or telling the actual direct commander of that soldier...

    Anyway we at least know Wanda must be around so thatís where this situation will matter the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choperman View Post
    Seriously it's freaking me out


    Calling the Jesus Burgess gets the Diamond fruit too!
    The final crew count is either going to be 13 given the missing entries in the databook. My bet is that it's either Luffy + 11 nakama + the ship or Luffy + 11 nakama + an apprentice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecristo View Post
    Just with this picture, we have 11 colors on the rainbow. Each character had one (except Brook in black), but its missing two blue. I think one is for Jinbe. Franky seems had a blue-green and Sanji the blue. So there remains one light-blue and a dark-purple. And has Brook is black, maybe we'll have one white..
    Brook is black AND white. The missing colors are the blue-green right next to the green and the dark blue/violet color.

    Reading from left to right the colors of the rainbow
    Red = Luffy
    Orange = Nami
    Yellow = Usopp
    Green = Zoro
    Green/Blue (Greenish Turquoise?) = ????
    Light Blue = Franky
    Blue = Sanji
    Dark Blue/Violet = ????
    Purple = Robin
    Pink = Chopper

    Now I've match the colors of the rainbow to the members clothes and they're a 100% exact match except for Zoro who Oda gives him a darker green for whatever reason. All the other Strawhats colors matchup perfectly with their corresponding position in the rainbow. That leaves Turquoise and Blue-Violet as remaining colors.

    Now which color is Jinbe? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's neither of those. Of course Jinbe is joining but I'm not sure he fits into those 2 colors. Brook is black and white but his color isn't featured in the rainbow because it'd look jarring. I think Jinbe might also be the case where his color is not a normal chromatic color. I guess we'll find out soon with the vivre card deck but I'm going to say that his color is probably.... gold. It's hard to really convey that through the manga and anime but from the SBS we see that Oda is open to metallic colors (he assigned "white gold" to Vivi). Thematically speaking, gold is often used to represent the sun which befits Jinbe having been former captain of the Sun Pirates.

    So who are the other 2 colors. I'm not sure about the Dark Blue but I think the Greenish Turquoise is Carrot. Keeping in line which what I mentioned above about Jinbe, Carrot's imagery is associated with the Moon given her Moon Lion transformation. Jade is often used as a representation of the moon in China which is where the "moon rabbit" folklore is derived from.

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    Also Tama has purple hair is pretty interesting. Do we have any characters with purple hair? Closest I can think of is Ivankov which is more of a blue-lavender color.

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    This cover is definitely a snub for Carrot, but I don't think its any more of a snub than Jimbei not being in the colour spreads. Oda has really been wishy-washy with his possible new crewmates for a while now.

    Also, this cover reminds me of volume 52:

    Hidden:




    What with the non-strawhat standing in the foreground with all the strawhats posing behind them. Its not quite the same as the "hero" covers where the future strawhats are put on the same level as the current strawhats.

    But her being on the same level as Rayleigh (who became Luffy's mentor) pretty much confirms my initial assumption that she would become to Luffy what Luffy was to Shanks. Remember that literally the only skill we know she has is to weave straw hats. I suspect that by the end of Wano, Luffy will have given her his hat and she'll make him a replacement.

    Quote Originally Posted by fapfapfap View Post
    Also Tama has purple hair is pretty interesting. Do we have any characters with purple hair? Closest I can think of is Ivankov which is more of a blue-lavender color.
    Like, half of BM's kids have purple hair.

    Purely coincidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecristo View Post
    Just with this picture, we have 11 colors on the rainbow. Each character had one (except Brook in black), but its missing two blue. I think one is for Jinbe. Franky seems had a blue-green and Sanji the blue. So there remains one light-blue and a dark-purple. And has Brook is black, maybe we'll have one white..
    Light blue= Jinbe
    Dark Purple= Hiyori
    White= Carrot:p

    But in all seriousness, its a stretch, but I do think Hiyori may be played up as a super important character this arc in the end.

    Momonosuke is far too young to be in Luffy's crew, in addition to the fact that he wants to be Daimyo of Wano, but what of his sister? If she was never sent forward in time (for whatever reason), she would be so time displaced from her brother, it may actually a good thing she joins Luffy (his crew is full of oddities and people who don't belong). She'd be 24-26 at this point, a great age to join Luffy, and she could possibly be a Kunoichi, a fighting style we don't have on the crew (a Samurai joining would be redundant due to Zoro and the possibility of him just learning their techniques like Kinemon's Fox Fire technique).

    With Hiyori having ties to her father, a man who joined the Pirate Kings ship at a young age, and her mother, a woman likely born during the time of the void century, she may have more reason to be on Luffy's ship, especially due to Momo being too young. On top of this, its possible she is the person who faces off against Orochi, a person who actually killed her father, instead of Zoro (who has been constantly popularized to fight him for some reason). Now that King is a thing, and is possibly a powerful swordsman, it leaves the possibility that someone else will fight Orochi, someone who has a more personal connection to him.

    Jinbe is an obvious choice, he'll be back when BM arrives in some fashion. He is the Strawhat Helmsman now. Carrot is a definite maybe to me due to Pedro, and the idea that his will was passed along to her, but we have to see how much focus she gets in an arc as big as Wano.

    If it is 11 members, Jinbe and possibly a Kunoichi (Hiyori). If its 12, I'd say all 3 of these people I mentioned. I feel like Wano is going to be the final opportunity to gain allies for an adventure for a story that is possibly ending in the next decade. We need them to actually be on the boat and spend time with Luffy, etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by fapfapfap View Post
    The final crew count is either going to be 13 given the missing entries in the databook. My bet is that it's either Luffy + 11 nakama + the ship or Luffy + 11 nakama + an apprentice.
    Its funny because its likely either 11 total counting Luffy (Jinbe+ 1 more) and the 2 ships (Merry and Sunny), 11 without Luffy (like you mention; Jinbe+ 2 more) and just Sunny or its actually 13 crew members counting Luffy (Jinbe + 3 more) and the editors of the new databook actually have knowledge of this (it seems like the databook is future proofed to include new crewmembers at least due to the numbers).

    This could also possibly mean that if they have this information, the new crew members joining is supposed to happen soon (as in the end of this arc soon)
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    Well Vivi is still a Strawhat, technically. If you're gonna count Merry... ^^
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