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    Quote Originally Posted by All Fiction View Post
    The second part of this post is exactly why I'm so excited about what is to come after Wano. It might allow a soft reset button since this whole Smile/Alliance storyline that started since Punk Hazard will be wrapped up in Wano, and potentially to an extent, wrapping up the whole beef with Big Mom too that started since Fishman Island which also involves Jinbei joining. After this, the Straw Hats will finally continue their voyage without any freeloaders like Wano natives, the minks, Law etc who have been riding along with the Straw Hats for the last couple arcs. Oda can finally focus on the Straw Hats and their interaction again. I see Wano as the culmination of everything that the Straw Hats started since post time-skip/New World, giving the series a sense of fresh start.
    This post make me so sad as I have the feeling the after Wano would be a huge wrap up on Elbaf and then Raftel, with really few "adventure-like story" and just huge main plot steps. I can see Oda doing just a couple of arcs more with the whole "alliance/war/big battle/huge cast" going on until the very end.
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    Stampede: 3 billion yen in japan box office (9 Days) !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchInformer View Post
    Stampede: 3 billion yen in japan box office (9 Days) !
    Official movie twitter retweeted a tweet that says it surpassed 3.5 billion yen :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevo_koma View Post
    I think this a believable and logical thing for an author to do. At the end of the day, there's just no way that a crew of 9 people can be influencing the world as much as the SH were doing, especially if you take into account that most of their enemies are part of really large organizations/crews.

    At some point, it would not be believable to have the SH be the sole reasons for change.
    Yeah but if you really look at it, it's mostly Luffy that's influencing everyone and the narrative seems to be framing as some sort of inevitable saviour.
    Not that he could have done it without his crew but it's not entirely each straw hat doing that part of influencing the world.
    It's reasonable for him to take that step since he has the goal of weaving an epic(my assumption) but I had hopes that he can build his own path in the sense that the essence of One Piece is never lost while the story gets richer.
    Let me put it this way, before this gigantic world building thing he is focused on weaving, the straw hats were jumping here and there towards each island and events with this element of surprise.
    Now it's "everything I write must be weaved together, so it's a whole checklist" and before it is "I dropped foreshadow here and there and it is important to my worldbuilding but the fun of the adventure will always be my focus".
    Basically now that is being lost.





    Quote Originally Posted by All Fiction View Post
    The second part of this post is exactly why I'm so excited about what is to come after Wano. It might allow a soft reset button since this whole Smile/Alliance storyline that started since Punk Hazard will be wrapped up in Wano, and potentially to an extent, wrapping up the whole beef with Big Mom too that started since Fishman Island which also involves Jinbei joining. After this, the Straw Hats will finally continue their voyage without any freeloaders like Wano natives, the minks, Law etc who have been riding along with the Straw Hats for the last couple arcs. Oda can finally focus on the Straw Hats and their interaction again. I see Wano as the culmination of everything that the Straw Hats started since post time-skip/New World, giving the series a sense of fresh start.
    You are pretty optimistic. I beg to differ and believe that there will probably be a chapter(or if we are lucky, two) of straw hat time only.
    The entire Reverie arc was set up for the pre-end game arc and I have no doubt that is where the story is going after Wano.
    Whatever happened during Reverie will set up the events that needs almost immediate attention after Wano and from there, the momentum will build to another huge saga that proceeds over to the finale.
    There's no rest on this train.

    By the way, Grand Order is real fun. I love fate franchise too and I'm proud to say that I contributed to it being the top franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MugiwaraPirate View Post
    Official movie twitter retweeted a tweet that says it surpassed 3.5 billion yen :)
    3.05 billion yen.

    Anyway, Stampede total seats: 2.31 million (9 Days).

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    Curious how well Stampede is doing compared to Strong World, which was released the time of One Piece hype peak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .access timeco. View Post
    So the longed waited consequences of the Level 6 escape ended up here. I won't lie, at this point in OP I thought it was a bit too late to bring that on the manga anymore (I can't even see how Weevil can be included as a threat after Wano), so instead of disliking the plotline to end up apparently being developed on a movie I feel more like "well, at least we got something out of it".
    Not sure if I like the idea of a member of Roger crew being non-canon, though (even though he basically ripped off Ace early years as a WBP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeltrax225 View Post
    Oda lost his touch in that aspect. What made One Piece great is more than the adventure and the world building, it was the chemistry and the dynamics of the Straw Hats, along with how they were utilized each arc.
    Now you can remove certain strawhats in certain arcs and nothing changes.
    Maybe it's an ego thing when your franchise gets so big and everyone just praise you like some kind of god, you're never really stuck in writing because everything you write is automatically really good now without even trying.
    Thing is, the straw hats besides the selected few has become caricatures of themselves and how Oda has been handling them now is many times worse than before.

    In return, he uses the panel time to hype up stuff that will sell and to as much as possible cram complicated plotlines and side character arcs(not strawhats) into one island.
    There's possibly two reasons why he has been doing this so often and why it is so apparent now, mainly because he doesn't think he can do wrong or that he can ever be flawed in handling characters.
    I mostly agree with your post, but I was giving some more thought to it before my response. Your analysis says a lot about how I feel, but feeling are always a little confusing.

    That said, your two highlighted reasons aren't the same thing?? haha

    Anyway, I think your reasoning is completely plausible, although I wouldn't exclude other hypothetical reasons for Oda's current handling of things. Maybe it's something as simple as the author losing his fire, or at least losing his interest in some aspects and characters of his life-long work. Or maybe he just believes that characters that were in the spotlight for so long (the strawhats) should go to the background for new things to be explored in their place.

    That said, I think Oda has become an author corrupted by a lot of writing vices. He takes too many shortcuts and pander to some easy hype and he already knows what pleases the people.

    Which is why he cram so many of them and tie all of them up in one island. It's more of a checklist that lacks the heart and soul it used to have and because he is so used to doing it, characters become one liners or a list of traits to him instead of feeling more like real actual personalities. That also carries over to how he handles the straw hats.
    He has this granduer vision of his storyline and his world building that he has to(or perhaps forgotten) sacrifice character writing in return.

    But he's also sharp, in the sense that he knows its human nature to enjoy emotional drama. So now occasionally he drops a backstory or two or create an emotional chapter to balance things out.

    I'm not saying he is failing at his grand story but I'm just saying I'm having a ton more fun reading the pre-timeskip arcs with the rich interactions than the flashiness of the new world arcs.
    Yes, I agree... but in my opinion WCI was a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theackwardstation View Post
    I mostly agree with your post, but I was giving some more thought to it before my response. Your analysis says a lot about how I feel, but feeling are always a little confusing.

    That said, your two highlighted reasons aren't the same thing?? haha

    Anyway, I think your reasoning is completely plausible, although I wouldn't exclude other hypothetical reasons for Oda's current handling of things. Maybe it's something as simple as the author losing his fire, or at least losing his interest in some aspects and characters of his life-long work. Or maybe he just believes that characters that were in the spotlight for so long (the strawhats) should go to the background for new things to be explored in their place.

    That said, I think Oda has become an author corrupted by a lot of writing vices. He takes too many shortcuts and pander to some easy hype and he already knows what pleases the people.



    Yes, I agree... but in my opinion WCI was a step in the right direction.
    Oh yeah I think I left it out. The other reason I was going for was partially pandering I would guess.
    But compared to others, I would say he has a clearer vision and it's not his style anyway.
    Hypothetical reason or not, we are all humans. The only constant is change and it takes a lot of willpower to stick to something.
    Not that change is bad or anything, it's just that it's not hypothetical at all to say that societal environment impacts a writer.
    We all go through different stages of life and our viewpoint changes accordingly so there's that.

    While I won't use the term corrupted, One Piece is a franchise after all. Take that as you will, it's a large business that can be affected or shaken up by the actions of him and his editors.
    So yeah, it's a very different beast than when he first started out.

    I agree, I really enjoyed WCI and it was the best one out of the new world arcs.
    Still slightly annoyed that Chopper was there for cutesy time and comedic relief though but eh that's more towards nitpicking.

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    Got today my special Volume "Kan-Banpaku" and official One Piece Stampede pamphlet with a limited OST CD!!!


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    SPOILER!!!!

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    Still do not like the Bullet backstory because of Scopper

    Non canon or not people will always see Bullet as the equal to Rayleigh and the good old theory about Scopper being the third is destroyed

    Dunno if it was a smart move if Oda intends to show Scopper in the manga

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