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    Quote Originally Posted by Zik View Post
    And you mean just stick to the okama/Sanji rape debate?
    Nope, I don't even know how the discussion shifted from Yamato to the whole rape discussion. I just noticed that the last ten pages or so were only about the gender debate, which is important in my opinion, but the matter won't resolve until the end of the arc. Like Robby said the discussion is already appearing in different threads, but here it was derailing into this okama/rape discussion, which I found was too much and should stop anyway.

  2. #2942

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    Certainly lends weight to theories that King's race basically represent fallen angels. We'll see.

    Would be interesting if the Promethean figure of the One Piece world who gave humanity the gift of fire was some devilish/demonic-looking chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatfruitydude View Post
    If King doesn’t take off his mask and look like that now I’m going to be so disappointed lol. That looks like a badass design. Doesn’t scream Moon people to me though
    Who knows? Maybe the Moon people as a whole include more than just the three varieties seen thus far. It was strongly hinted that One Piece Earth used to be orbited by 6 moons; maybe there were 3 other Moon tribes who looked like fallen angels or whatever, made their own way down to Earth.

    Though it still does beg the question: why would King's particular race receive such a seemingly all-encompassing denomination as "Lunarians?" It's a given that some select parties in the world are already familiar with Sky Islanders, Big Mom included, so why the distinction? What makes them moon-ier?

    Unless it's something akin to say the naming conventions of Wano's ruling families, with each moon tribe originally possessing its own specific moon-related name, e.g. Lunarians, Selenites, Artermisians, Tsukiyomis, Mooninites, whatevs.

    Rampant speculation is fun.

  3. #2943

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    If King's race is originally from the moon, then maybe that may set-up for future basis for Enel to came back, whatever may happen there.

  4. #2944

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    Did Redon or someone else already posted scans of the new VC?
    Tried to look for it but got lost on the gender war '-'


    Quote Originally Posted by LawSamuka View Post
    It does have EX cards, but it appears that people are more engaged to discuss manga character gender
    Sem predão, ban eterno '-'
    Last edited by Namekuseijin; September 6th, 2021 at 05:38 AM.

  5. #2945

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namekuseijin View Post
    Did Redon or someone else already posted scans of the new VC?
    I will post my pictures tomorrow. I get Booster Packs today but I can't do the pictures until tomorrow

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    https://imgur.com/a/z8cGOes

    https://imgur.com/a/q8gW2fM

    So, you can find some scans here if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ea77 View Post
    https://imgur.com/a/z8cGOes

    https://imgur.com/a/q8gW2fM

    So, you can find some scans here if you want.
    Shoot, I was hoping that some of the Foxy Pirates' main participants in the Davy Back Fight would get cards, at least to confirm who joined the crew naturally and who was won in past Davy Back Fight competitions.

    All of the Beasts Pirates' and Orochi have either their beast forms, hybrid forms, or both for the Zoan Devil Fruit they ate labeled on the front of their cards, but that's not the case for past characters who ate Zoan DFs like Dalton, Miss Merry Christmas, the top three fighters of CP9, Sengoku, etc.. Granted they might appear in the How to laugh, The first person, or tone sections or on the back of their cards for some of the scenes they use for their important moments in the series, but that's not the same as what their doing for Kaido, the All-Stars, the Tobiroppo, and Orochi.
    Last edited by Moriah; September 7th, 2021 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulieYBM View Post
    The Okama scream stereotypes and actively make me sick to look at and think about. They also prove that Oda has definitely just...not researched us before. One can't go on trans Twitter or Reddit and seeing a slew of hot trans women. 

    Anyway, yeah, I always read them as being coded or written as outright rapists...which is also extremely offensive. Just like Oda needing to constantly point out that "Kiku is/was a man!" Like...listen. Stop. I don't need a cis guy writing a trans tragedy story. At all.
    I do, since you don't. Both our opinions cancelled each other else. When you do finished your appropriated story, perfectly tailored to your sensitivity. Please do notify me, so I don't buy it. I bet you that you read more One Piece than books by trans author anyway. I bet you contribute zero financially to the works that perfectly curtailed to your sensitivity. Also nothing about you scream to me that I want to read more about. Also as an actual rape victim, the first definition that you think off and not these blurry definition. Please, stop. I don't need someone shallow like you writing stuffs on a thread where I want to read about One Piece. Go find an appropriate thread to do so.

    Go and write those books that you want to read. I am assure you that with your persuasiveness and your selling abilities. Ain't no one wanna read them.

    You can bash Oda all you want. But the guy did contribute real impact in my life. My anger, my hatred, my depression. Years of abuse. See me as a strawhats. You have not see the pit of hell yet. If Yamato is what trigger you.

    You folks really ruined my night. I didn't expect to READ ABOUT GODDAM RAPE in a goddam thread about Vivre card. If you wanna cry, go cry on reddit or something. I don't have enough money for therapist to deal with this c***

    IF YOU FOLKS WANT TO SEE REAL MEDICAL TRIGGER look like. That is me right now.

    Please tell me what page I need to go through to read the vivre card stuffs. Because I am strolling through and I am see more discussing on "rape." Jesus. I didn't expect it tonight.
    If I was mentally more aware. Maybe I wouldn't exp this sort of anger right now. Hopefully I can sleep tonight with this much heighten of an emotion.

    You know what I am glad Oda triggered you lot. Because you folks sure as hell triggering me. And it ain't funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moriah View Post
    Shoot, I was hoping that some of the Foxy Pirates' main participants in the Davy Back Fight would get cards, at least to confirm who joined the crew naturally and who was won in past Davy Back Fight competitions.
    I have gotten the suspicion that Foxy is somehow connected to King Ham Burger from Ballywood Kingdom, not only looking similar, but also Hamburg sharing a similar name, as well as Porche having the name of a car like Jeep and Furrari.

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    Is there going to be a ryuma viver card in future i sure hope so, but then i am not sure if i will like ryuma if it is not monsters ryuma which is fusion of luffy and zoro.

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    Got my copies of new One Piece Vivre Card Booster Packs!!!



    Like last time, here you have a link with pictures of all Vivre Card files from new Booster Packs that I took today. Please give credits if you publish in other sites

    One Piece: Vivre Card - Booster Pack 23

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/mj69du

    One Piece: Vivre Card - Booster Pack 24

    https://www.sendspace.com/file/3x2jph

    You can see some files here as example


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  12. #2952

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    Awesome work, thanks Redon!

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    Thanks Redon!

    I can't wait to read that one about the ninjas.

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    Thanks redon as usual!

    Do we have bounty revelations for Speed, Holdem and the numbers? would be interesting to evaluate the difference between headliners and F6.

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    16 chars of Thanks Redon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newgate View Post
    Thanks redon as usual!

    Do we have bounty revelations for Speed, Holdem and the numbers? would be interesting to evaluate the difference between headliners and F6.
    Doesn't seem to be the case, though seeing as how Page One is at 290 million and of a higher position than Speed, it's possible that Speed's bounty might end up being below 300 million.


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    Judging by the fact both Speed and Holdem are born in Wano, I think they just have no bounty. I can see them being Wano kids grown by Beasts Pirates as Kaido maybe saw some potential in them, or even Orochi made a lot of very young kids eat SMILE and the ones who unlocked abilities have been coercively recruited. Time passed and both of them remember near to nothing about their Wano origins.

    Holdem is 30yo, which makes him just a kid when Orochi and Kaido made their coup d'éte and Speed wasn't even born by then. It's highly possible imho both of them never left Wano, so no bounties.

    The truly exception imho is Black Maria with her 480M bounty, but seeing as she's a top rank officer, I guess she had more chances to leave Wano a create havoc here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayleigh92 View Post
    Carrot sneaked on the Sunny when they left Zou, not asking or requesting anyone. IF Carrot is going to join, I expect something like that, with the crew ready to leave Wano, all of them beginning to party for new nakama Yamato and then "wha-t?! Carrot is near Luffy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayleigh92 View Post
    Judging by the fact both Speed and Holdem are born in Wano, I think they just have no bounty. I can see them being Wano kids grown by Beasts Pirates as Kaido maybe saw some potential in them, or even Orochi made a lot of very young kids eat SMILE and the ones who unlocked abilities have been coercively recruited. Time passed and both of them remember near to nothing about their Wano origins.

    Holdem is 30yo, which makes him just a kid when Orochi and Kaido made their coup d'éte and Speed wasn't even born by then. It's highly possible imho both of them never left Wano, so no bounties.

    The truly exception imho is Black Maria with her 480M bounty, but seeing as she's a top rank officer, I guess she had more chances to leave Wano a create havoc here and there.
    Going by Kaido and the other officers going out of Wano four years ago, it seems that Speed and the others haven't ventured out of Wano enough to get bounties, whereas Ulti and the others have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Doesn't seem to be the case, though seeing as how Page One is at 290 million and of a higher position than Speed, it's possible that Speed's bounty might end up being below 300 million.

    https://i.ibb.co/zNmb5zK/Unknown.jpg
    Thanks a bunch, I would have assumed all headliners would have bounties. When you see that most of Big Mom kids have one. It's maybe the case but not revealed. Same for the numbers. Anyway merci beaucoup ;)

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    It's kinda sad all these Supernovas got their own chance to have CoA and CoO officialised while a bunch of characters will never be due lack of 2.0 Cards.

    I mean, Kid, Killer, Drake, Hawkins and Apoo were not declared as haki users when their first card was published, even if their was the post-timeskip version already. The updated version has it. Pretty surely the same will go for Bonney and Apoo when they'll get their shiny moment. But Bege missed the train as his was the first and only own card (until if he'll get enough spotlight to achieve a new card sooner or later, which I fear he won't).

    This discrepancy between two cards of the same character bugs me. Just like Jack, if Ivankov and Kuma will get a new character arc, they'll prlloy get officialised as haki users (would be kinda odd if the four horsemen of revocalypse do have both basic haki and the actual Grand Leader Officer doesn't).

    And I can't really believe Magellan, the actual director of the greatest prison of the WG hasn't them either when all CP9 agents but Spandam are proficient users. And what about some ever-standing characters which have already proven to have fought New World great names like Crocodile or even Moriah? Of course there could be justifications for it, as maybe Moriah is literally too lazy, but Crocodile fought Whitebeard in his youth and Mihawk/Doffy/Sakazuki at Marineford. He'd really be able to exchange blows with all of them and survive unharmed without a glimpse of CoO and CoA when even Diamante, Trebol and Pica have it? Is it narratively safe to have (former) Warlords without haki? (Buggy is out of topic for obvious reasons. And even there I can't really handle a pirate which actually lived under Roger's wing don't at least have a hint of dunno CoO. Maybe never developed, but--).
    Quote Originally Posted by rayleigh92 View Post
    Carrot sneaked on the Sunny when they left Zou, not asking or requesting anyone. IF Carrot is going to join, I expect something like that, with the crew ready to leave Wano, all of them beginning to party for new nakama Yamato and then "wha-t?! Carrot is near Luffy

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