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    Quote Originally Posted by Ageless_Bum View Post
    I think Spinner isn't really a villain. I don't mean he is a double agent, I mean he doesn't have some grand villainous idea like other LoV members. He just wants to remember Stain and continue his work. He stands out because he doesn't really have their objectives, nor does he have any of their psychosis. He is that "normal" guy who got caught up in something bigger than himself.
    And that's exactly why I think he would have left by now. It's not like facepalm is threatening to force him to stay.



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    I'd call Spinner the most normal member but admiring a guy who murdered heroes isn't good either. In the end, he's down with destruction if he thinks its necessary to his cause.

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    Spinner's the only one on Team Evil to have something resembling an actual ideology beyond "destroy it all" or "FUCK YOU DAD".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
    I'd call Spinner the most normal member but admiring a guy who murdered heroes isn't good either. In the end, he's down with destruction if he thinks its necessary to his cause.
    But the reasons he would be fine with destruction are different than Facepalm reasons. And he is down with destruction if necessary not just for the hell of it.

    The whole they are both bad so they can team up always seemed like lazy reasoning. Punisher working for Joker would be strange.



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    True, but as long as both can achieve their goals without getting in each other's way everything's cool. Plus, them being friends helps. That friendship is gonna keep the current League together until the end. I like that we're shown how well they get along as well as their power ups.

    That friendship Shiggy feels for his team might be the one factor that differentiates him for being 100% like All For One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
    True, but as long as both can achieve their goals without getting in each other's way everything's cool. Plus, them being friends helps. That friendship is gonna keep the current League together until the end. I like that we're shown how well they get along as well as their power ups.
    They currently aren't really friends and Facepalm just invited him into a city wide slaughter fest and before that they were kidnapping/killing children. Him being there is way just chilling with a couple of bad bros.


    That friendship Shiggy feels for his team might be the one factor that differentiates him for being 100% like All For One.
    He also doesn't really plan and has no delusion of grandeur. He just chill with a couple of psychopaths and Twice that doesn't care about anything but having people to chill with. If you take out the spineless Spinner they make a lot of sense. I can see them murdering people by day and playing video games by night.



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    Quote Originally Posted by desa View Post
    They currently aren't really friends and Facepalm just invited him into a city wide slaughter fest and before that they were kidnapping/killing children. Him being there is way just chilling with a couple of bad bros.
    Totally disagree. The League are friends. It's slowly happened over time, but they all care about each other as much as each one can. They're not threatening to kill each other or other junk like that. Just because they're killers don't mean they don't care about each other. Killers and murders are capable of love, people aren't either All Love or All Hate, even if some are made up of a large portion of one or the other.

    ------He also doesn't really plan and has no delusion of grandeur. He just chill with a couple of psychopaths and Twice that doesn't care about anything but having people to chill with. If you take out the spineless Spinner they make a lot of sense. I can see them murdering people by day and playing video games by night.
    Great point with having no delusions of grandeur, but Shiggy is getting better at planning. I think once he gets Gigantomachia, along with Uijiko, the Yakuza bullets, and the rest of the League, he'll have enough resources and earned experience to make long term plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
    Totally disagree. The League are friends. It's slowly happened over time, but they all care about each other as much as each one can. They're not threatening to kill each other or other junk like that. Just because they're killers don't mean they don't care about each other. Killers and murders are capable of love, people aren't either All Love or All Hate, even if some are made up of a large portion of one or the other.
    I am speaking about specifically Spinnet who at the beginning of the arc was wondering what the hell he is doing here. The rest seems friendly enough. I mentioned I can picture them chill and play video games. Except Dabi but he's the emo kid. My point being Spinner has display no traits that would make hangs with people that murders for fun and he doesn't even seemed to get along with them that much. His presence in this group seems strange. The rest has personality that fits why they would stick together while Spinner feels like someone that was roped into this. Except that he was not.



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    Quote Originally Posted by desa View Post
    I am speaking about specifically Spinnet who at the beginning of the arc was wondering what the hell he is doing here. The rest seems friendly enough. I mentioned I can picture them chill and play video games. Except Dabi but he's the emo kid. My point being Spinner has display no traits that would make hangs with people that murders for fun and he doesn't even seemed to get along with them that much. His presence in this group seems strange. The rest has personality that fits why they would stick together while Spinner feels like someone that was roped into this. Except that he was not.
    Yeah, Spinner does look like he's in over his head at times. But, I think this arc will fix that by diving deeper into who Spinner was, is, and wants to be. He's got to break out that Stain box he put himself in and accept his quirk (and by extension, himself) then decide once and for all what he wants to do.

    If that happens, it makes sense Hanabata is his opponent, a handsome and charismatic guy with all the self confidence in the world. I'm almost positive he'll slam Spinner for never using his quirk, basically egging him into a flashback and forcing him to eventually use it.

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    So Joker has growth powers?



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    The Monarch now needs a butterglider. And his power is scary.



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    Cool chapter, but Giran would be dead if clone Shiggy didn´t tell clone twice to create a human cushion, that´s not cool.

    This fight itself is making me remember the Shiina vs Isana from Hori´s first series, Oumagadoki Zoo, the main villain there also wore classy clothes and used a giant-sized body part to attack, his skin also became darker when getting bigger (but in his case it was because he was turning back into his giant whale monster form) And considering that Shigaraki is a punished version of human Shiina, I can imagine that the fight will end in a similar manner, with Shiggy shouting "This is for hurting my friends" and winning thanks to the power of friendship. That last part is a joke, it would be a little weird seeing a villain win the fairy tail way.

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    It´s most likely a coincidence or I am seeing things were there aren´t, I think Hori just wants to have a villain with the samy body-type Kingpin has in Spiderverse.

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    And to those that thought that Twice trauma was over it’s not. They all still see themselves as the OG.



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    Nice try, Horikoshi, but…

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    Ain't no way we're seeing the Big Bosses fight. We're probably going to Spinner or Dabi's fight next time.

    Anyway, I'm loving Redestro's quirk. Safe to say he could make his entire body huge if he wanted. Whatever he's got, its more than simple gigantification. I would be mad at Shiggy for putting Giran in danger but Twice could just made a bunch of copies to soften his fall. And, where the hell is Skeptic? I'm starting to think he's gone after the real Twice to fix his mistake. Might be getting a Skeptic VS Mr. Compress fight then.

    And yeah, we get confirmation the MLA is all about free quirk use without any restrictions. A good idea on paper until you realize the world will then be run by whoever has the strongest quirks. Not to mention, other things like uber deadly quirks, mind manipulators, and whether or not its legal to kill people with quirks. Basically total chaos.


    Quote Originally Posted by pariston_hill View Post
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    And to those that thought that Twice trauma was over it’s not. They all still see themselves as the OG.



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    I love he's not over it. The clones are just too focused on saving Giran and helping the League to duke it out. It keeps Twice's power in check, only using it in emergencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
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    And yeah, we get confirmation the MLA is all about free quirk use without any restrictions. A good idea on paper until you realize the world will then be run by whoever has the strongest quirks. Not to mention, other things like uber deadly quirks, mind manipulators, and whether or not its legal to kill people with quirks. Basically total chaos.
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    They want people to be able to use their quirks not erase every law. Murder, rape and stealing would still be crimes. It's more like Momo could make a dress without caring if it destroys the economy.And others could fly to school.

    There would probably be chaos but let's not strawman their goals.

    So his power is gigantification only from what we saw right?



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    He's putting poor Kendo's quirk to shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by pariston_hill View Post
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    And to those that thought that Twice trauma was over it’s not. They all still see themselves as the OG.
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    That's not the trauma, it's a normal part of being a perfect clone. He had to inform the cloned Shigaraki and co. that they're clones becaues they wouldn't know otherwise. Instead, his trauma was thinking that he was a copy which could disappear from relatively minor damage. The series has been very explicit on hammering that he's overcome that trauma and all of its implications (specifically, he now clones himself no problem).

    I generally dislike this sort of "character progression" because it permeates the idea that mental issues are simple to solve if you get to the source. It's also unrealistic so it breaks my suspension of disbelief.
    I hate quacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Matematico View Post
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    That's not the trauma, it's a normal part of being a perfect clone. He had to inform the cloned Shigaraki and co. that they're clones becaues they wouldn't know otherwise. Instead, his trauma was thinking that he was a copy which could disappear from relatively minor damage. The series has been very explicit on hammering that he's overcome that trauma and all of its implications (specifically, he now clones himself no problem).

    I generally dislike this sort of "character progression" because it permeates the idea that mental issues are simple to solve if you get to the source. It's also unrealistic so it breaks my suspension of disbelief.
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    But once and is done, we will be left if a couple Twices besides the OG. So the whole trauma situation could happen again. If that’s not a PTSD trigger i don’t know what else could.




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    Ah, Spinner! If Shiggy made it to the tower then he's indeed fighting Hanabata and fodder. That should be fun.


    Quote Originally Posted by desa View Post
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    They want people to be able to use their quirks not erase every law. Murder, rape and stealing would still be crimes. It's more like Momo could make a dress without caring if it destroys the economy.And others could fly to school.

    There would probably be chaos but let's not strawman their goals.

    So his power is gigantification only from what we saw right?
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    For now, I'll disagree because if what the MLA wanted was reasonable they wouldn't have to go this far. I think it's all or nothing. What Geten said about the strong quirk users leading the weak is the MLA's answer to the expected social chaos. Quirk freedom is absolute but Redestro will be the one deciding what deaths are justified and etc. Again, what can you do if someone wants to control your mind or activate a volcano? That's their quirk and Redestro's about freedom. I think he's all about the cause no matter the consequences thinking with him in charge he'll fix any problem that arise.

    He was also fast and his arm is kinda elastic. Cell/Self-Molecular manipulation, maybe.

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