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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainyz View Post
    These unique designs and powers of Big Mom pirates are really appealing. So appealing that I'm a little bit bummed that we're not getting more of them. Remember, back in the day, some swan looking add-ons for shoes and shape shifting swords were used by relatively important characters. It's actually very weird to remember Machvise who had a questionable design with an unexplained tail and a reused weight fruit when Oda could clearly come up with much more interesting stuff as proven with BM pirates. I'm also concerened that Oda might be draining his creative ideas with such minor characters, but then again, it depends on how many crews does he intend to show us in the future.
    no doubt Oda's drained of creative ideas. it's all coming to Luffy's luck now and his thicc plot armor

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    Good that the fight is actually over and the plot seems to be moving again.

    Solid chap overall.
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    I feel like the title of the chapter was not complete; are we sure there weren't a few more Kanji that translate to "...Is Terrible!"

    I didn't really get much out of this chapter. I get it was transition, but the chapter ending with the arrival of Germa as if it was a great, unexpected event that we haven't been expecting for the last 20 chapters was odd. Also, Oda just is NOT gonna give Sanji a good showing battlewise no matter what, huh?

    Anywho, people were saying last chapter discussion that Luffy was still on his feet and moving ONLY because he hadn't made it back to his crew yet, and would be completely done once he did. I LOVED that that turned out to be the case in this chapter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirxxx View Post
    I feel like the title of the chapter was not complete; are we sure there weren't a few more Kanji that translate to "...Is Terrible!"

    I didn't really get much out of this chapter. I get it was transition, but the chapter ending with the arrival of Germa as if it was a great, unexpected event that we haven't been expecting for the last 20 chapters was odd. Also, Oda just is NOT gonna give Sanji a good showing battlewise no matter what, huh?
    chldren are not gonna remember that the germa was supposed to show up until they see them again...in the end it's still a shonen manga.

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    To be honest we were expecting the Germa to back at every single opportunity, so whenever it happened it would be predictable.

    We should be grateful that at least it took this long for it to happen...

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    Sanji's empathy is holding him back. How many times must he be punished cause he looks away at someone in danger midfight? It's like Oda wants us to think Judge was right and Sora was wrong.

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    So, does Yuen have a DF then?

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    Simultaneously happy and disappointed that Sulong!Pekoms was put down so easily. Would have loved to see him rampage around a bit, but it's good to know that for all its Dragonball Oozaru-esque nature, it isn't some unstoppable engine of destruction. Oven instructing his men to gouge out Pekoms' eyes is a practical, if brutal, solution.

    Similarly, given all the braggadocio they've been throwing around, it's nice to see that the army Oven put together isn't just for show and can give Sanji a difficult fight.

    Looking forward to seeing what the Vinsmokes have planned. Glad though I am that well get to see them fight properly, I'm hoping there's more to the Germa's intervention than just "beat down the Charlottes and help Sanji/Luffy escape". If ever there was a chance for them to show off, now's the time.

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    Wonder if the Vinsmoke tech is geared alot toward sea battles. It would be a good way to thin down BM's fleet if they are simply lots of ol'wooden ships up against the high tech snails of doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seafarer33 View Post
    I too like that the Big Mom pirates are at last portrayed as the threat they should have been all along, but still I'll be a bit disappointed if skywalking his way out is all there was to Sanji's plan. I didn't expect some masterclass stratagem that would without fail get them out of sight, but surely he's considered a few steps beyond this obvious part ? Come on, whatever happened to Mr Prince.

    Altogether a nice action-packed chapter. I'm just bothered by how easily the entire Germa fleet managed to catch everyone by surprise, not to mention the 4 Vinsmokes casually flying unnoticed through some 10 thousand people before they could reach Luffy & Sanji. They may have both personal and fleet-wide cloaking devices of course, what with being the kingdom of science. But since that wasn't emphasized at all one could think that among those countless Big Mom ships guarding Cacao island, maybe at least one person would have seen them coming... My suspension of disbelief is stretched reaaaaaal thin by this last-minute save, eventhough I'm glad to see them back in action.
    Well they could be pretty far away since the vinsmokes went ahead on foot and the ships were the ones who launched the cannons.
    There's also the possibility of them coming from the opposite side of the strawhats. Besides once things got crazy with luffy coming out it's not like they were paying attention to the coasy
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    Seriously, 2 sacrifice in this arc just to keep the plot going? sacrifice that i cant even take seriously anymore.

    It was strange but touching the first time Bonchan scapegoated for the SHs in Alabasta.

    Pell's was dramatic and impactful just until we found out he actually survived.

    Bonchan take 2 in Impel Down... bruh...

    Pedro, now Pekoms... I wonder how many sacrfice are needed in Wano? On their way to Raftel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maju View Post
    chldren are not gonna remember that the germa was supposed to show up until they see them again...in the end it's still a shonen manga.
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    To be honest we were expecting the Germa to back at every single opportunity, so whenever it happened it would be predictable.

    We should be grateful that at least it took this long for it to happen...
    Totally agree, that's why I was put off by Oda saving it for the big chapter-ending cliffhanger. An earlier debut in the chapter would've been nice, with a meatier set up for next chapter, but oh well.

    Also, yeah, Sanji's plan was as bad as Pekoms'. I expected more from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirxxx View Post
    Totally agree, that's why I was put off by Oda saving it for the big chapter-ending cliffhanger. An earlier debut in the chapter would've been nice, with a meatier set up for next chapter, but oh well.

    Also, yeah, Sanji's plan was as bad as Pekoms'. I expected more from him.
    So, Mr. Strategist, what would have been your plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.C. Amigo View Post
    So, Mr. Strategist, what would have been your plan?
    Diversion. When you have that many against that few, guerilla style is basically your only option.
    1) Create a large enough distraction, and attempt to steal the entire mirror if you have to.
    2) Find a piece of mirror from one of the MANY destroyed mirrors on Cacao, communicate to Luffy what's happening, maybe.
    3) Use Jinbei's mastery of water to sneak through the bay and try to secure the mirror for himself
    4) Find one of the mirrors that were thrown in the ocean and take it to the ship

    Just spitballing. None of those plans are worse than Sanji's Operation "Fuck it, I'm just gonna run at 'em really fast!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirxxx View Post
    Diversion. When you have that many against that few, guerilla style is basically your only option. Create a large enough distraction, and attempt to steal the entire mirror if you have to. Find a piece of mirror from one of the MANY destroyed mirrors on Cacao, communicate to Luffy what's happening, maybe. Use Jinbei's mastery of water to sneak through the bay and try to secure the mirror for himself.
    There's literally thousands of enemies there, and Oven is deadset on guarding the mirror. Even theoretically, by the time Sanji could wrest it from him, the others surely would have heard the commotion.

    And Jinbei and co still haven't landed and Luffy left then are there. He didn't have time to sync up with him.

    And that's not even getting into trying to escape carrying a delicate mirror, which would open Sanji to the same perils he faced anyways.

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    Why people keep repeating that? Oven even asked himself who was that guy that attacked him. He clearly saw Sanji, he just failed to react in time (no surprise, since he was attacked mid-attack).



    Anyways, Sanji's whole existence is a negation of Judge's beliefs and actions. Him getting a suit - specially if that would remain with him as a power up - would go against everything his backstory was about...

    ... so yeah, I can see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.C. Amigo View Post
    There's literally thousands of enemies there, and Oven is deadset on guarding the mirror. Even theoretically, by the time Sanji could wrest it from him, the others surely would have heard the commotion.

    And Jinbei and co still haven't landed and Luffy left then are there. He didn't have time to sync up with him.

    And that's not even getting into trying to escape carrying a delicate mirror, which would open Sanji to the same perils he faced anyways.
    Yeah, not saying any of my hypothetical plans would have succeeded. Just saying the attempt would've shown that Sanji had put more thought into everything you yourself pointed out and decided to try something other than directly rushing in. Again, not a big deal, just not really a good showing for Sanji......AGAIN! In fact, it doesn't really seem like he had any impact on Luffy's predicament whatsoever.
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    I am pretty sure we will be able to see a full Pekoms transformation in the next chapters going out on rampage and there will be a Pedro come back to stop his rampage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirxxx View Post
    Yeah, not saying any of my hypothetical plans would have succeeded. Just saying the attempt would've shown that Sanji had put more thought into everything you yourself pointed out and decided to try something other than directly rushing in. Again, not a big deal, just not really a good showing for Sanji......AGAIN! In fact, it doesn't really seem like he had any impact on Luffy's predicament whatsoever.
    I have issues seeing any ally in his place doing any better or coming up with a better idea. Case in point, Pekoms's idea failing almost instantly, as well.

    Zoro or Jinbei would have been bogged down instantly, for example.

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    Oh boy... BMP got all the rights to be called a Yonko crew. Magnificent performance, truly what i expected since the beginning from them, to go... on Sanji xDDDD
    Yuen: "So you can do moonwalk... just as anyone here can do it" xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I love this shit, Sanji returns to Baratie plz.

    Pekoms got Kame Kame no mi, the fact that he's being massacred it isn't a problem to him. Hope Sulong becomes his free-ticket to Awakening.

    I love the fact that Oda put these two with a wonderful plan, only to fail miserably while doing it xD Classic Oda.

    Oven got another interesting skill, wave attacks, yep, like it. Germa's cliffhanger was also nice to see, hyped me a little.

    Good chapter, Sanji made me laugh... but oh!!!! I see a mistake, Guys did you see??... Sanji was talking through Den Den Mushi and the one at the Sunny didn't appear like Sanji at all!! Hope Oda fixes at #89... unless a new rule for hijacked snails don't become the character speaking D:
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