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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagomu View Post
    I tried watching the beginning of the show since people kept saying it was a good exploration of depression and stuff, but I got super turned off by the first few episodes with how whacky everyone around the main character was. Does that ever mellow out or is the side cast always that amped up?
    That whacky side of things is amplified a bunch of times due to SHAFT doing this show and while it's still present here and there, I'd say it's gone down.

    You do make me curious though- which chars in particular turned you off?

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    Violently annoyed with Houshin Engi's new anime. They crammed the whole first volume into chapter one, sacrificing any cool moments and agency that Taikoubou had against Dakki there, into "oh, you are just dumb", instead of the weird "oh, this awkward plan might work and save the world on volume 1!".

    The first kill, Dakki's sisters being something more than background wenches and Taikoubou being somewhat competent were traded for.. Having Nataku in chapter 2 instead of 4?

    I mean, leave the first chapter a little more space to breathe, put the first "kill" in the end, then chapter 2 dedicated to make the Zou capital be as shitty as possible, and the battle against Dakki's sister, and then chapter 3 the mindgames and planing and snake pit, and then chapter 4 the marketing plan! You can even keep the random useless flashforwards in chapter one.

    SOMEONE has to die early to show how the Soul realm thingie works! Dakki's sisters are important characters (Kibbi and... shut up it has been like 10 years, I don't remember their names!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzeru View Post
    That whacky side of things is amplified a bunch of times due to SHAFT doing this show and while it's still present here and there, I'd say it's gone down.

    You do make me curious though- which chars in particular turned you off?
    Honestly I didn't get far enough in to start really recognizing characters, and though this was a few weeks ago, the details are fuzzy to me. I think it just boils down to most of the side characters. In theory, I like the idea that this depressed dude has a lot of people invested in his well-being since it's got a refreshing positivity to it, but they're handled in such a goofy manner that it clashes tonally. Like the family, for instance, who have a sweet relationship with the main, but the children and pets are super cartoony. The pudgy rival character was also a miss to me, since he's really exaggerated (at least in the first few eps. again, all of this is based on the first few eps).

    I know a lot of people love this as a dramatic story, and I was excited to dive into it, but the beginning threw me. I guess I'm wondering if this is a problem only I've had cause I'm a grumpy old goat, or if it's a common sentiment that goes away in time.

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    The thing is that, when you feel like there is a tonal clash, that it's very deliberate. The Kawamoto household especially has very warm colors and a bubbly atmosphere with the cats talking and such because for the depressed Rei, who lives in this empty cold apartment, that is how he perceives it.


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    Well there's juxtaposition and then there's clashing. I get the former is what they're going for, but the result really undermines the tone for me. The goofy stuff comes off as material written to be genuinely goofy as opposed to complimenting the dramatic focus, so it ends up distracting and makes the product as a whole kinda toothless.

    Again, I only got a few eps in, so I'm not making any statements on the series as a whole. Plus, I don't like overly cartoony anime children and animals on the best of days (absolutely hated the main child in Barakamon, for example), so there's definitely some bias here. I just kinda got salty watching the beginning of the show and not sure if I should continue.

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