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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2020/01/10/day-1086/

    Day 1086: Destabilizing activities.

    1/ Nancy Pelosi will transmit articles of impeachment against Trump to the Senate next week. The trial could begin as soon as next week. The House will also consider a resolution next week to appoint impeachment managers. Trump, meanwhile, said he would "have to" block his former national security adviser John Bolton from testifying in the Senate trial, "for the sake of the office." (New York Times / Washington Post / Politico / NBC News / CNN / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / CNBC)
    • READ: Pelosi's letter saying she is preparing for a vote next week to send articles of impeachment to Senate. (CNN)
    • Sen. Susan Collins said she's been working with "a fairly small group" of Republican senators to ensure witnesses can be called in Trump's impeachment trial. (NBC News / Bangor Daily News)
    2/ The operation that killed Gen. Qasem Soleimani in Baghdad was more ambitious and multifaceted than the Trump administration has disclosed. The U.S. military targeted but failed to kill Abdul Reza Shahlai in Yemen, a senior commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force. A senior official said the two strikes were authorized around the same time and that the U.S. did not disclose the Shahlai mission because it did not go according to plan. Defense and State Department officials claimed the strike against Soleimani saved "dozens" if not "hundreds" of American lives from an imminent threat. (Washington Post / Wall Street Journal / New York Times / CNN / ABC News)
    • Trump claimed Iran had targeted four American embassies before he ordered the killing of Soleimani. Yesterday, Trump claimed that Iran was "looking to blow up" the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, but did not mention the three other embassies under "imminent" threat. (Bloomberg)
    3/ The Trump administration announced new economic sanctions on Iran for "destabilizing activities." Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the sanctions would target eight individuals involved in Iran's construction, manufacturing, textile and mining sectors. The Treasury also designated 17 Iranian metals producers and mining companies, along with entities based in China and the Seychelles, for other penalties. (CNBC / NBC News / CNN / Washington Post / New York Times)
    4/ Iran accused western governments of "psychological warfare" for all claiming to have intelligence showing the Boeing jet that crashed near Tehran was shot down. Officials familiar with the intelligence said the aircraft was downed by two Russian-made SA-15 surface-to-air missiles that were detected soon after the Ukrainian jet took off. A spokesperson for the Iranian government, however, denied reports that Iran shot down the airliner, calling it "a big lie." (Bloomberg / CNN)
    5/ Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told the U.S. to come up with a mechanism for getting U.S. troops out of Iraq. During a phone call with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Mahdi said Iraq rejects all violations of its sovereignty, including the assassination of Soleimani on Iraqi soil by the U.S. and the ballistic missiles fired at Iraqi bases by Iranians in retaliation for Soleimani's killing. Mahdi asked Pompeo to "send delegates to Iraq to prepare a mechanism to carry out the parliament’s resolution regarding the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq," according to a statement. The U.S. currently has more than 5,000 troops stationed in Iraq. (Associated Press / CNBC / Washington Post)
    • The State Department said any delegation the U.S. sends to Iraq would not discuss the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country. In a statement, department spokesperson Morgan Ortagus said the U.S. presence in Iraq was "appropriate," but added that there does "need to be a conversation between the U.S. and Iraqi governments not just regarding security, but about our financial, economic, and diplomatic partnership." (Reuters / New York Times)
    6/ A New York judge rejected Trump's effort to throw out a defamation lawsuit filed against him by E. Jean Carroll, who claims he raped her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s. Carroll sued Trump in November, claiming he defamed her by saying she lied about the rape and that she was motivated by money and a political agenda to make up the allegation. Trump argued that because he made those statements while in Washington, D.C. – and not in New York – he could not be sued for them in a New York court. Justice Doris Ling-Cohan, however, rejected the argument. (New York Times / Bloomberg / CNBC)
    • 📌 Day 883: Trump rejected an allegation by journalist E. Jean Carroll that he sexually assaulted her in a Manhattan department store dressing room in the 1990s, saying that he has "never met this person in my life." According to Carroll, she met Trump inside Bergdorf Goodman when he told her he was buying a gift for "a girl" and needed help. While in the lingerie section, Carroll said Trump suggested a lace bodysuit, and encouraged her to try it on. "The moment the dressing-room door is closed, he lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips," Carroll writes. "He seizes both my arms and pushes me up against the wall a second time, and, as I become aware of how large he is, he holds me against the wall with his shoulder and jams his hand under my coat dress and pulls down my tights." More than a dozen women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. Trump, meanwhile, said: "Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political agenda." (New York Magazine / Politico / Daily Beast)
    7/ A Justice Department inquiry into Hillary Clinton's business dealings has effectively ended with no criminal charges. Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions appointed John Huber to look into Republican allegations that donors to the Clinton Foundation had been given special treatment by Clinton when she served as secretary of state. Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing. (Washington Post / Reuters / CNN)
    8/ The Trump administration is preparing to expand its travel ban. Draft documents of the plan – timed to coincide with the third anniversary of Trump's January 2017 executive order – suggest the administration has been actively preparing media talking points, as well as a draft presidential proclamation. It's unclear how many countries would be included in the expansion, but the proclamation includes seven slots that contain descriptors for each nation and varied restrictions. (Associated Press / BuzzFeed News)
    poll/ 55% of U.S. adults support a full impeachment trial of Trump. 45% said they preferred to let voters decide Trump's fate in the November election. (LX/Morning Consult)

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    So it appears, Iran actually took down that one Ucranian plane 'by mistake'.

    This is totally on Trump, he caused this. Trump´s responsible for the death of 176 people, bring that up constanly on elections pls.

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    At least the Republicans in my congressional district give no shits. I've been canvassing for a NY state Senate candidate for a few weeks now. And -relevant or not to that specific position- the Iran thing has obviously come up.

    And when talking to many Republican/Independent voters, a lot of them honestly just few it as "well it's the middle east. The middle east has terrorist and we killed one".


    Personally for me, it honestly does make me consider what i'm doing with my professional life. Do I want to spend my life trying to convince people to give the smallest shit about human life? I'm literally trying to convince people currently to vote for a teacher who has worked for decades, served his community well, it trying to campaign on the most middle ground aspect of lowering property taxes on Long Island for our middle class.

    And yet so many of these voters simply ask "well is he a D or R? He's a D? well what does he think about Iran? Does he defend terrorists like Pelosi".

    I'm to the point right now of banging my head against the wall. And it's not even close to November.
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    Wow. What a horrible turn of events. They not only killed hundreds of their own citizens, they also essentially turned the blame back on themselves. Nobody is thinking about the general now that 176 entirely innocent people got wiped out by their own government. Poor fucking people just going about their business ending up in the line of fire like this, goddamn.

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    Reminder that Iran is also run by incompetent authoritarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
    Reminder that Iran is also run by incompetent authoritarians.
    Didn't really need a reminder of that.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Md-Martin View Post
    At least the Republicans in my congressional district give no shits. I've been canvassing for a NY state Senate candidate for a few weeks now. And -relevant or not to that specific position- the Iran thing has obviously come up.

    And when talking to many Republican/Independent voters, a lot of them honestly just few it as "well it's the middle east. The middle east has terrorist and we killed one".


    Personally for me, it honestly does make me consider what i'm doing with my professional life. Do I want to spend my life trying to convince people to give the smallest shit about human life? I'm literally trying to convince people currently to vote for a teacher who has worked for decades, served his community well, it trying to campaign on the most middle ground aspect of lowering property taxes on Long Island for our middle class.

    And yet so many of these voters simply ask "well is he a D or R? He's a D? well what does he think about Iran? Does he defend terrorists like Pelosi".

    I'm to the point right now of banging my head against the wall. And it's not even close to November.
    You're doing god's work though. The world needs more people like you. I don't think there's anything more important one can do than going around positively changing people's opinions. Maybe you could read up/follow a course on rhetoric to better be able to convince those people. For one you need the patience of a saint and and take people with the silliest views 100 percent seriously. Anyway, big respect to you dude.

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    Corey Booker has dropped out, yet another person who should've gone farther than they did and gotten Mayor Pete or Bernie's spot.

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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2020/01/13/day-1089/

    Day 1089: Interpretations.

    1/ Defense Secretary Mark Esper "didn't see" intelligence backing up Trump's claim that Iran was planning to strike four U.S. embassies. Trump previously told Fox News that Iranian General Qasem Soleimani was "probably" going to attack "four embassies," including the "embassy in Baghdad." While Esper agreed with Trump that additional attacks against U.S. embassies were likely, he said Trump's comments were not based on any specific evidence. Esper also confirmed that he sent "thousands of American paratroopers to the Middle East to reinforce our embassy in Baghdad and other sites" based on Trump's evidence-free assertion. (Reuters / NBC News / New York Times / CNN / CNBC)
    • 📌 Day 1086: Trump claimed Iran had targeted four American embassies before he ordered the killing of Soleimani. Yesterday, Trump claimed that Iran was "looking to blow up" the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, but did not mention the three other embassies under "imminent" threat. (Bloomberg / Washington Post)
    • State Department officials involved in embassy security were not notified of "imminent" threats to U.S. embassies. (CNN)
    2/ Senior administration officials declined to confirm Trump's assertion that Iran was "looking to blow up" four U.S. embassies. Officials instead suggested that Trump's "interpretation" of the threat was consistent with overall intelligence that justified the killing of Soleimani. Trump, meanwhile, tweeted that "it doesn't really matter" whether Soleimani posed an "imminent" threat to the United States. (Washington Post)
    3/ Trump authorized the assassination of Soleimani seven months ago. Trump issued a presidential directive in June that the killing of Soleimani was "only on the table if they hit Americans," referring to Iranian actions in the region. The directive also came with the condition that Trump would have the final say on any specific operation to kill the Iranian general. The Trump administration's justification for ordering the drone strike, however, was that Soleimani was planning "imminent" attacks on Americans and had to be stopped. (NBC News)
    • The Trump administration's shifting explanations for the Soleimani strike. (New York Times)
    4/ The Trump administration warned Iraq that it could lose access to its central bank account held at the Federal Reserve Bank if Baghdad kicks out American forces. In response to airstrike that killed Soleimani at Baghdad International Airport, the Iraqi parliament voted to urge Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi to work toward the expulsion of the approximately 5,300 U.S. troops. (Wall Street Journal / CNBC)
    • 📌 Day 1086: Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi told the U.S. to come up with a mechanism for getting U.S. troops out of Iraq. During a phone call with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Mahdi said Iraq rejects all violations of its sovereignty, including the assassination of Soleimani on Iraqi soil by the U.S. and the ballistic missiles fired at Iraqi bases by Iranians in retaliation for Soleimani's killing. Mahdi asked Pompeo to "send delegates to Iraq to prepare a mechanism to carry out the parliament’s resolution regarding the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq," according to a statement. The U.S. currently has more than 5,000 troops stationed in Iraq. (Associated Press / CNBC / Washington Post)
    5/ House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not rule out the possibility of a House subpoena for testimony from former national security adviser John Bolton, depending on whether the Senate seeks testimony in Trump's impeachment trial. Pelosi called Trump "too afraid to let any of his top aides testify," saying he's been "impeached for life" regardless of "any gamesmanship" by Mitch McConnell, whom she accused of orchestrating a "coverup" of Trump's behavior. Pelsoi also didn't rule out the possibility of additional articles of impeachment against Trump in the future, saying "Let's just see what the Senate does." (ABC News) / Washington Post / NBC News)
    • The White House expects some Republican senators to join Democrats in voting to call witnesses in Trump's impeachment trial. Senior White House officials increasingly believe that at least four Republicans will vote to call witnesses. Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, Cory Gardner, Rand Paul, and Lamar Alexander are all considered possibilities. (CBS News)
    • A Rudy Giuliani associate turned over thousands of pages of documents to House impeachment investigators. Lev Parnas provided investigators with documents, recordings, photos, text messages from his iPhone, a Samsung phon, and his What's App account. (CNN)
    poll/ 66% of Americans would like to see John Bolton testify in the Senate impeachment trial, including 39% of Republicans, 71% of independents, and 91% of Democrats. (Quinnipiac)
    poll/ 56% of Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of Iran, while 43% approve. 52% of Americans think the airstrike against Soleimani made the United States less safe, while 25% said they felt more safe. (ABC News / CNN)

    Notables.

    1. The Department of Homeland Security placed a group of non-violent climate activists on a list of "extremists" alongside white supremacists and mass killers. Members of Climate Direct Action are known for acts of civil disobedience, like closing the valves on oil pipelines in four states. DHS described the group as "suspected environmental rights extremists" and listed them alongside people like Dylann Roof, who killed nine black churchgoers during a 2015 racist attack in Charleston, SC. (The Guardian)
    2. More than a dozen Saudi servicemen training at U.S. military installations will be expelled from the United States after an FBI investigation found connections to extremist rhetoric, possession of child pornography, and a failure to report behavior by the gunman who killed three people last month at a Pensacola, Fla., military base. (CNN / Washington Post / New York Times)
    3. Attorney General William Barr called the December shooting by a Saudi national at the Pensacola Naval Air Station "an act of terrorism" that was "motivated by jihadist ideology." (CBS News / Wall Street Journal / Washington Post / USA Today)
    4. The official White House Twitter account tweeted a picture of snow falling around the White House with the caption, "First snow of the year!" even though it was 70 degrees in Washington, DC. The low was 49 degrees. The photo in the tweet was actually taken on Jan. 7 – the last time it snowed in DC. (Fox News / HuffPost)

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    If his cabinet wants him to survive, they'll take Trump's Twitter account away from him:
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-dead-bo...sf_akfmevaatca

    Seriously, WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    If his cabinet wants him to survive, they'll take Trump's Twitter account away from him:
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-dead-bo...sf_akfmevaatca

    Seriously, WTF?
    For context, headline of the link is "Trump unleashes tweetstorm on Democrats over Iran strike"

    The White House initially said that there was an imminent threat to American lives, but the administration has not publicly disclosed intelligence supporting that assertion. Over the weekend, Trump claimed in an interview with Fox News that Soleimani was planning to attack four U.S. embassies, but Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Sunday that he had not seen such evidence.

    “The Fake News Media and their Democrat Partners are working hard to determine whether or not the future attack by terrorist Soleimani was ‘eminent’ or not, & was my team in agreement,” Trump tweeted, misspelling ‘imminent.’ (He deleted and replaced the tweet with the correct spelling.) “The answer to both is a strong YES, but it doesn’t really matter because of his horrible past!”

    “The Democrats and the Fake News are trying to make terrorist Soleimani into a wonderful guy, only because I did what should have been done for 20 years,” the president continued. “Anything I do, whether it’s the economy, military, or anything else, will be scorned by the Rafical [sic] Left, Do Nothing Democrats!”

    In response to news of an antigovernment march in Tehran against the government’s belated admission that a Ukrainian plane had been accidentally shot down by Iranian antiaircraft fire, Trump tweeted: “Wow! The wonderful Iranian protesters refused to step on, or in any way denigrate, our Great American Flag. It was put on the street in order for them to trample it, and they walked around it instead. Big progress!”

    Earlier Monday, Trump retweeted several tweets castigating Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called for a House vote on a resolution limiting his war powers.

    One of the retweets by the president included a Photoshopped image of Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wearing hijabs. Another included the photo of a bloody dead body, presumably in Iran, hanging over barbed wire.

    “Question: Who in America supports this mullahs’ crime?” the tweet read. “Answer: Nancy Pelosi.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    If his cabinet wants him to survive, they'll take Trump's Twitter account away from him:
    They should've did this in the leadup to the election they ain't doing it now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    For context, headline of the link is "Trump unleashes tweetstorm on Democrats over Iran strike"

    *A bunch of petty bullshit snipped*
    ...... Five more years..... we aren't even halfway done with this shitshow.

    If we don't actually die in WWIII by then I'm probably going to turn to booze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Md-Martin
    At least the Republicans in my congressional district give no shits. I've been canvassing for a NY state Senate candidate for a few weeks now. And -relevant or not to that specific position- the Iran thing has obviously come up.

    And when talking to many Republican/Independent voters, a lot of them honestly just few it as "well it's the middle east. The middle east has terrorist and we killed one".


    Personally for me, it honestly does make me consider what i'm doing with my professional life. Do I want to spend my life trying to convince people to give the smallest shit about human life? I'm literally trying to convince people currently to vote for a teacher who has worked for decades, served his community well, it trying to campaign on the most middle ground aspect of lowering property taxes on Long Island for our middle class.

    And yet so many of these voters simply ask "well is he a D or R? He's a D? well what does he think about Iran? Does he defend terrorists like Pelosi".

    I'm to the point right now of banging my head against the wall. And it's not even close to November.
    See what our country has been reduced to?

    Nobody is even looking at the issues in a sensible fashion anymore. It's all come down to not whether the issue(s) will be good for the country but whether it will be good for the party at the expense of the other!

    We've become so fucking tribalist now in our political views that any genuine desire to improve the country comes second to the size of the party's influence on national affairs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    ...... Five more years..... we aren't even halfway done with this shitshow.

    If we don't actually die in WWIII by then I'm probably going to turn to booze
    A reminder that, while yes it is a legitimate possibility, Donald Trump is not guaranteed re-election.
    -----
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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2020/01/14/day-1090/

    Day 1090: "Deserve the truth."

    1/ The House will vote on Wednesday to transmit articles of impeachment against Trump to the Senate. "The American people deserve the truth, and the Constitution demands a trial," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. Before the vote, Pelosi will appoint the team of impeachment managers who will prosecute the trial against Trump. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff and House Judiciary Committee Jerry Nadler are expected to be two of the impeachment managers. Mitch McConnell, meanwhile, said Trump's impeachment trial will begin next Tuesday – the start of Season Four of the Trump presidency. (New York Times / Washington Post / NBC News / Politico / Reuters / ABC News)
    • Rudy Giuliani asked Trump if he could join the White House impeachment team. White House counsel Pat Cipollone and outside lawyer Jay Sekulow are expected to lead the Trump's defense. The White House declined to comment. (HuffPost / CNN)
    2/ Senior Senate Republicans rejected Trump's call to dismiss impeachment charges against him, saying "There is almost no interest" for a motion to dismiss the House charges. Republicans hold a 53-seat majority in the Senate and dismissing the articles of impeachment would require 51 votes. Multiple Republicans, however, have indicated they would oppose a motion to dismiss, arguing that both Trump's legal team and the House impeachment managers should be able to present their case. (Washington Post / Associated Press / Reuters / The Hill / Politico)3/ The Russian military hacked into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the Trump impeachment inquiry. Using similar tactics to those used to obtain emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC, Russian hackers employed phishing emails to steal usernames and passwords from Burisma employees. It is still unclear what the hackers found or what they were looking for, but experts say the timing and scale of the attack suggest that they could be searching for information about the Bidens. The hacking attempts began in early November while reports about the Bidens, Ukraine, and impeachment were leading the news in the U.S. (New York Times / NBC News / Washington Post)
    4/ Trump is preparing to divert another $7.2 billion in Pentagon funding to pay for his border wall construction this year — five times the amount that Congress authorized for the project in the 2020 budget. The Pentagon funds – enough to fund about 885 miles of new fencing by 2022 – would come from military construction projects and counter-narcotics programs. The diversion would bring the total amount of federal funding allocated for border fencing to $18.4 billion. (Washington Post)
    5/ A former Trump campaign adviser and key witness in the Mueller investigation pleaded guilty to charges of child sex trafficking and possessing child pornography. George Nader admitted in court that he brought an underage boy to the U.S. for sex and that he possessed child pornography that depicted the sexual abuse of toddlers. Both crimes occurred before his time with the 2016 Trump campaign, where he worked as an informal foreign policy adviser and attended high-level meetings. The Justice Department has recommended that he receive the minimum sentence of 10 years in prison. (Courthouse News Service / Washington Post / CNN / Rolling Stone / Yahoo News)

    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2020/01/15/day-1091/

    Day 1091: Con job.

    1/ The House of Representatives voted to send the Senate two articles of impeachment against Trump, initiating the third presidential impeachment trial in American history. The measure passed 228-to-193 with one Democrat – Collin Peterson of Minnesota – joining every Republican in voting "no." Speaker Nancy Pelosi also announced the seven House Democrats who will serve as the "managers" in the trial, saying "The emphasis is on making the strongest possible case to protect and defend our Constitution to seek the truth for the American people." The two articles, charging abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, will be hand-delivered to the Senate with the trial expected to begin on Tuesday. It remains undecided if witnesses will be called to testify. Trump, meanwhile, tweeted that his impeachment is a "Con Job." (New York Times / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / Politico / CNN / CNBC / NBC News)
    • A step-by-step guide to what happens when the House sends the impeachment articles to the Senate. (CNN / Washington Post)
    • Who are the impeachment managers prosecuting the case against Trump in the Senate trial? House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff and Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler will lead the House team, joined by Jason Crow, Val Demings, Sylvia Garcia, Hakeem Jeffries, and Zoe Lofgren (Washington Post / Politico / NBC News / Bloomberg / CNBC / Wall Street Journal)
    2/ Rudy Giuliani requested a private meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky – then the president-elect of Ukraine – with Trump's "knowledge and consent," according to new documents released by House Democrats. The documents contains several handwritten notes, emails, encrypted messages, and text messages that show how Giuliani associate, Lev Parnas, tried to set up a meeting between Giuliani and Zelensky, as well as efforts to "Get Zelensky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated." The documents also show that before Marie Yovanovitch, the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, was removed from her post, a Parnas associate now running for Congress sent menacing text messages suggesting that he had Yovanovitch under surveillance in Ukraine. Democrats said the new records "demonstrate that there is more evidence relevant to the president's scheme" that has "been concealed by the president himself." (New York Times / Washington Post / Politico / CNN / NBC News / CNBC / Wall Street Journal)
    3/ Four Republicans will vote with Democrats to invoke Congress' war powers and limit Trump's ability to conduct further military actions against Iran. Republican Sens. Susan Collins, Todd Young, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul have joined 47 Democrats in support of the resolution, which was introduced the day after the Trump administration carried out the assassination of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani without seeking Congressional approval. (Washington Post)
    • Security footage shows that the Ukrainian International Airlines Flight 752 was taken down by two missiles, fired roughly 30 seconds apart. The missiles were launched from an Iranian military base approximately eight miles from where the plane was hit. Flight 752 was one of 19 planes that took off from Tehran in the hours after Iran launched missiles against military bases in Iraq that were housing U.S. troops in retaliation for the U.S. killing of Soleimani. (New York Times)
    poll/ 49% of Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of the situation with Iran, while 42% approve. 88% of Republicans approve of Trump's actions, as do 44% of Independents and 10% of Democrats. (NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist)
    poll/ 71% of voters support Trump's decision not to pursue military action against Iran after Tehran targeted two air bases in Iraq housing U.S. troops. 14% disapproved of Trump's decision, and 15% said they did not know or had no opinion. 58% approved of Trump's decision to level the new sanctions against Iran, while 22% disapproved. (Politico)

    Notables.

    1. Former national security adviser Michael Flynn moved to withdraw his two-year-old guilty plea for lying to the FBI during the Russia probe due to "bad faith" actions by the Justice Department. Flynn asked a judge to withdraw his plea and to delay his sentencing by 30 days. Flynn's defense team cited his cooperation with the Mueller probe and said the government's "stunning and vindictive reversal of its earlier representations to this Court are incredible, vindictive, in bad faith, and breach the plea agreement." (NPR / New York Times / NBC News)
    2. Putin replaced his prime minister and proposed constitutional changes, which would limit the power of a successor after 2024, when Putin is required by law to step down. As head of the State Council, Putin could also remain in control and guide policy after his presidential term expires. (Bloomberg / Wall Street Journal / CNBC)
    3. The Trump administration released its hold on $8.2 billion in disaster aid to Puerto Rico. The Department of Housing and Urban Development failed to release the funding in September, saying it needed to ensure financial safeguards were put in place in light of recent political unrest on the island. (Politico)
    4. Trump signed the "phase one" trade deal with China, which includes Chinese commitments to purchase an additional $200 billion worth of American goods and services by 2021. The initial trade agreement also includes new protections for trade secrets and intellectual property. (CNBC / CNN / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / New York Times)

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    Extremely happy Berners have completely returned to their 2016 mindset, including Russian-backed Twitter hashtags.

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    Default Re: American Politics thread: No Nazis Allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    Extremely happy Berners have completely returned to their 2016 mindset, including Russian-backed Twitter hashtags.
    The Extremely Online Consortium is expending an impressive amount of energy in the race for second place.

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    I saw one person pitching a conspiracy theory because of one of Warren's consultants works for a company that also consults for the DNC and Biden. Falls apart pretty quickly though when it's pointed out that another of their clients is Bernie.
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    A reminder that, while yes it is a legitimate possibility, Donald Trump is not guaranteed re-election.
    He Preeeeeetty much is at this point.

    Bernie's fans have turned on Warren, and neither of their bases ever really liked Biden.

    No matter who wins, a depressingly sizable chunk of the progressive base are going to stay home over this because only a perfect candidate will do, anything less is just as bad as Trump.

    Meanwhile, Republicans continue to be in lock step behind Trump. Even the ones who used to and sometimes still do pay lip service to some of his decisions being bad still support him blindly and without reservation.

    Trump has a solid base, none of the Dems do, plus Trump has the "The Economy is doing so good!" bullshit he can keep spreading, plus he keeps getting points for us NOT going to World War 3. Yes he's basically an arsonist being praised for putting out his own fire, but it sadly WORKS with the general public.

    We're in for 5 more years of Trump. Just get used to the idea.

    Like, still vote. Everyone still vote. I 100% want to be very very wrong here but... yeah, I don't see the dems winning at all.
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    Nothing is ever 100% guaranteed. I mean, none of us fucking thought that Trump would actually win, but look what happened.

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