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    Median vote of the Supreme Court is now *checks notes* ...John Roberts.


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    https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/1...835376640?s=19

    This is interesting: the very conservative @AmericanFamAssc just came out hard against Kavanaugh: https://t.co/TYhlW7AfQ9

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    Liberal<->conservative slant of the SCOTUS:

    Ginsburg <-> Sotomayor <-> Kagan <-> Breyer <-> Roberts <-> Alito <-> Kavanaugh <-> Good Day Thomas <-> Gorsuch <-> Bad Day Thomas

    mEnTiOnInG ThE sUpReMe CoUrT iS bLaCkMaIl


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    The destruction of any progressive advancement since the Gilded Age is a small price to pay compared to the risk of letting an (arguably) slightly less progressive person take office.

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    mentioning tHE supRemE court is blackMAIL
    I fixed that for you.
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    Orange Potus called recently elected Mexican to be president a 'Juan Trump' Lmao.








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    I uh..... .....this seems ....what the hell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    I uh..... .....this seems ....what the hell?
    There's a lot of crackpot bills in the works that never seem to go anywhere. I assume this because one New Jersey GOP, a Chris Smith, puts out a bill that literally "bans abortion" every now and then, inbetween voting on issues that won't get him in trouble. Not sure why they do it. Maybe it's just to appease their donors.

    On that note, a law against antifa is especially odd when it's a right wing boogeyman. You're think this guy would know better.

    On the Supreme Court, there really seems like there should be a law against judges influencing their successors. Kennedy it's basically getting two lifetime appointments this way.

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    I'm talking about the Kennedy thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    I'm talking about the Kennedy thing.
    Swing and a miss then.

    Also, according to the tweet the story has changed.

    I’ve deleted this tweet because it incorrectly implies a transactional nature in Kennedy’s replacement. I am told by a source who was not directly part of the talks that Kennedy provided Pres. Trump/ WH a list of acceptable replacements. (1/2)
    Kavanaugh was the only one who was thought conservative enough to consider, I’m told. They added Kavanaugh – and 4 other names - to the public Federalist list that Trump would choose from in November. We are continuing to report this story. (2/2)

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    Yeah, so apparently Trump and Kennedy have been having secret talks for months about replacements. Not in an open "going through new possibilities" way but in a "conspiring between two branches of government in a potentially illegal way... and also your son loaned me a billion dollars while laundering russian mob money."

    Note that the guy being nominated now was not on the list of 20 and even McConnel was against it because he doesn't think he has the votes. But this is a guy Trump has picked because he explicitly has earlier papers saying things like "the president shouldn't be allowed to be prosecuted by the law."

    So. Yeah.

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    BTW. Trump putting tarrifs on soybeans has caused CHina, the largest importer of soybeans, tostop ordering from the US and instead start tripling their orders from... you guessed it.... Russia.

    Funny how that works.

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    Here is an an interesting piece on Leonard Leo. Who is Leonard Leo? Well most recently according to the article, Fearless Leader's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was made on behalf of Leonard. But even more importantly than that, this Leonard guy appears to have a scary degree of influence in politics. The article is a long read, so i'm going to post the bullet points of what I think pertains the most to this thread of discussion.

    At the center of the network is Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society, the association of legal professionals that has been the pipeline for nearly all of Trump’s judicial nominees. (Leo is on leave from the Federalist Society to personally assist Trump in picking a replacement for Justice Anthony Kennedy.) His formal title is executive vice president, but that role belies Leo’s influence.

    Directly or through surrogates, he has placed dozens of life-tenure judges on the federal bench; effectively controls the Judicial Crisis Network, which led the opposition to President Obama’s high court nominee, Judge Merrick Garland; he heavily influences the Becket Fund law firm that represented Hobby Lobby in its successful challenge of contraception; and now supervises admissions and hires at the George Mason Law School, newly renamed in memory of Justice Antonin Scalia.

    “Leonard Leo was a visionary,” said Tom Carter, who served as Leo’s media relations director when he was chairman of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), in an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast. “He figured out twenty years ago that conservatives had lost the culture war. Abortion, gay rights, contraception—conservatives didn’t have a chance if public opinion prevailed. So they needed to stack the courts.”

    Amazingly, said Carter, Leo has succeeded in this mission with few people taking notice.

    “The Christian right has been written about a lot, but hardly anyone talks about the Catholic right,” Carter said. “Four Supreme Court justices—they’re more successful than anybody: the NRA, the Israel lobby, Big Pharma, no one else has had that kind of impact.”

    Leo is most closely associated with the Federalist Society, which he joined in the 1990s. Sometimes thought of as a legal association, the Federalist Society is actually a large right-wing network that grooms conservative law students still in law school (sponsoring everything from free burrito lunches to conferences, speakers, and journals), links them together, mentors them, finds them jobs, and eventually places them in courts and in government. It’s like a large-scale fraternity, knitted together by ideological conformity. (The Federalist Society did not respond to The Daily Beast’s request for comment.)

    The Federalist Society network is now estimated to include over 70,000 people. In 2016, they reported $25 million in net assets.

    Leo played the decisive role in the appointments of Justice Alito (whom few people had heard of before Leo first promoted him), Chief Justice Roberts, and Justice Gorsuch—as well as in the unprecedented stonewalling of would-be Justice Merrick Garland.

    Now, of the 25 people on Trump’s Supreme Court list, all but one are Federalist Society members or affiliates. Justice Gorsuch was the speaker at the 2017 Federalist Society gala. And when Gorsuch was asked how he had come to Trump’s attention, he told Congress, “On about December 2, 2016, I was contacted by Leonard Leo”

    And of the 18 people Trump has nominated to federal appeals courts, 17 are Federalist Society members or affiliates.

    “Leonard is very good at staying in the shadows,” Carter continued. “Getting stuff done without having it traced back to him, leaving no fingerprints.”

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    From the still developing WTF Just Happened Today Feed:

    U.S. government officials told four immigrant women that they would have to pay for DNA tests in order to be reunited with their children. The tests are part of the Trump administration's latest effort to reunite families that it had separated at the U.S. southern border. The tests are being administered by a private contractor on behalf of the Office of Refugee Resettlement. The Department of Health and Human Services has refused to name the contractor, which many constitute a violation of federal law. The Office of Refugee Resettlement denied passing on the costs of the DNA tests to the four migrant women. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/govern...-kids-advocate

    Some children who have been reunited with their families after being separated at the U.S.-Mexico border are unable to recognize their mothers. Other children who had been potty-trained before being separated had regressed back to diapers. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/u...-migrants.html

    From the moment it went online in 2014, the web portal designed to keep track of unaccompanied children and process their release has experienced major technological problems. Among the issues users have encountered are a limited number of total concurrent users, lost saved data, poor searchability, and significant manual work for minor updates and patches. That same system is now being used as a key part of the Office of Refugee Resettlement's efforts to track the thousands of migrant children who were separated from their parents at the border under the Trump administration's "no tolerance policy." (Reuters)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K11A2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
    For context "Trump signs order giving agency heads more power to appoint regulatory judges"

    I saw mention of this earlier, I think. If it's the same thing, the person who posted it noted that "it apparently goes against a 1946 act regarding how Administrative Law Judges are selected, and it has to go to court first before anything can be done with it. So it may not actually end up being implemented"

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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...07/11/day-538/

    1/ Trump accused Germany of being "totally controlled" and "a captive of Russia" because it pays "billions and billions of dollars a year" to Russia for energy. Germany doesn't meet its NATO spending commitments, but has started construction on a second natural gas pipeline to Russia. Germany argues that it has increased its contributions to NATO and plans to spend even more on the alliance in the coming years. A few hours later, Trump told reporters that the United States has a "tremendous relationship" with Germany. (Washington Post / NBC News / Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-summit-709311

    This is the Russian pipeline to Germany that Trump is mad about: an 800-mile-long, planned pipeline beneath the Baltic Sea. The project would roughly double Russia's gas export volume via the Baltic route. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...out-explained/

    2/ Trump wants NATO allies to double their military-spending target to 4% of gross domestic product despite allies not meeting the current 2% target. The 29 members – including the U.S. – agreed to a joint summit declaration to move toward the 2% target by 2024. The U.S. contributes 3.5% of its GDP. (Wall Street Journal)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-c...mit-1531297516

    NATO Summit Live Updates: Trump Pushes Allies to Increase Spending. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/11/w...e-updates.html

    3/ The Senate approved a non-binding motion in support of NATO. The symbolic 97-2 vote expresses the Senate's support for NATO and calls on negotiators to reaffirm the U.S. commitment to it. (The Hill / Axios)

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-nato-as-trump

    4/ The Trump administration plans to hit China with roughly $200 billion in additional tariffs. Beijing's commerce ministry said it was "shocked" by the U.S. action and that China "has no choice but to take necessary countermeasures." Days ago the U.S. imposed 25% tariffs on Chinese goods worth $34 billion, which Beijing immediately responded to with its own tariffs on $34 billion in U.S. goods. The latest tariffs will undergo a two-month review process, with hearings on Aug. 20-23. (CNBC / New York Times / Wall Street Journal / CNN / Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...tariffs-708707

    The Senate voted to give Congress a role in overseeing Trump's tariff decisions when imposed in the name of national security. The 88-11 vote in favor is non-binding and part of an effort by members of Congress who are concerned that trade disputes with China and western European nations and Canada, could damage the U.S. economy by harming U.S. employers and raising prices for consumers. (Reuters / Washington Post)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K12IB

    5/ The Department of Justice admitted that it may have mistakenly separated a family of U.S. citizens for as long as a year "because the parent's location has been unknown." (The Guardian)

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oj-us-citizens

    U.S. government officials told four immigrant women that they would have to pay for DNA tests in order to be reunited with their children. The tests are part of the Trump administration's latest effort to reunite families that it had separated at the U.S. southern border. The tests are being administered by a private contractor on behalf of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which the Department of Health and Human Services has refused to name – a possible violation of federal law. (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/govern...-kids-advocate

    Some children have been unable to recognize their mother's when reunited with their families. Other children who had been potty-trained before being separated have regressed back to diapers. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/u...-migrants.html

    From the moment it went online in 2014, the web portal designed to keep track of unaccompanied children and process their release has experienced major technological problems. Among the issues users have encountered are a limited number of total concurrent users, lost saved data, poor searchability, and significant manual work for minor updates and patches. That same system is now being used as a key part of the Office of Refugee Resettlement's efforts to track the thousands of migrant children who were separated from their parents at the border under the Trump administration's "no tolerance policy." (Reuters)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K11A2

    poll/ 54% of voters think the government should keep ICE, 25% believe ICE should be abolished, and 21% are undecided. (Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...sh-poll-708703

    Notables.
    Paul Manafort says he is being treated like a "VIP" in jail, where he has a phone, computer, private bathroom and shower, and does not have to wear a uniform. Manafort filed to delay his July 25 trial, claiming that his incarceration at Virginia's Northern Neck Regional Jail left him without adequate time to prepare for trial. (Washington Post / The Hill)

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ot-required-to

    Trump pardoned the two Oregon cattle ranchers who were sentenced to five years in prison for committing arson on federal land — punishments which led to the armed occupation of a wildlife refuge by the Bundy family in 2016. The pardons were the result of a months-long campaign by agricultural groups like the Oregon Cattlemen's Association, and Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. The White House issued a statement claiming that the Obama administration had been "overzealous" in its pursuit of the cattle ranchers. "This was unjust," said Sarah Huckabee Sanders. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/u...nd-oregon.html

    Pfizer said it would delay drug price increases for no more than six months after speaking with Trump. The conversation came after Trump tweeted that Pfizer and other U.S. drug manufacturers "should be ashamed" for raising prices on some of their medications. (Reuters)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K0323

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's visit to Pyongyang last week went "as badly as it could have gone." North Korea accused the U.S. of a "gangster-like mindset" following the denuclearization negotiations. Pompeo's described the talks as "productive." (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/polit...ntl/index.html

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    https://t.co/ffGpYOlNbl

    Okay, that smells suspicious.

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    Who the fuck puts themselves into debt over the Nationals.


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    So he got the money to pay those debts back from Kennedy's kid, right?
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    Who the fuck puts themselves into debt over the Nationals.
    Someone who doesn't try to sell steaks on Sharper Image.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...07/12/day-539/

    Day 539: Go it alone

    1/ FBI agent Peter Strzok rejected accusations that he let his personal political views bias his actions in the Hillary Clinton email and Russia investigations during a joint House Judiciary and Oversight committee hearing. Strzok labeled the Republican attacks against him "another victory notch in Putin's belt and another milestone in our enemies' campaign to tear America apart." Republicans threatened Strzok with contempt after the committee devolved into partisan, chaotic arguments about what questions he could answer about the ongoing Russia investigation. Strzok has come under scrutiny after the Justice Department's inspector general discovered text messages critical of Trump that he exchanged with Lisa Page, a senior FBI lawyer he was having an affair with, during the 2016 campaign. Republicans and Trump charge that Strzok's text messages undermine the integrity of Robert Mueller's investigation. Strzok was immediately removed from Mueller's probe when the text messages came to light. Page declined to comply with a subpoena from Republican lawmakers to appear for an interview on July 11. (New York Times / Washington Post / CNN / NBC News / CNBC)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/polit...ess/index.html

    READ: Peter Strzok's statement before Congress. (Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...nscript-714981

    2/ Trump threatened NATO allies with "grave consequences," warning alliance members that the U.S. could "go our own way" if they don't boost their military spending by January. Trump arrived late, hijacked a meeting in progress, and delivered what one official called a "prolonged rant." He then praised the alliance as a "fine-tuned machine." (Politico)

    https://www.politico.eu/article/trum...l-out-of-nato/

    3/ Trump reaffirmed his support for NATO, calling his threat to withdraw from the alliance "unnecessary" after pressuring members to increase their defense budgets "like they never have before." He offered no specifics and some leaders rejected his claim. Trump called himself a "very stable genius" and said he deserved "total credit" for pushing allies to increase their military spending by more than previously agreed to while also warning members that the U.S. "would go it alone" if countries did not meet the 2% target by January. In 2014, NATO members committed to each spend 2% of GDP on defense by 2024. French President Emmanuel Macron, said "Trump never at any moment, either in public or in private, threatened to withdraw from NATO." (New York Times / Washington Post / Bloomberg / NBC News)

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...unding-n890806

    4/ The Trump administration reunited 57 of the 103 children under age 5 who were "eligible" to be reunited with their families. The remaining 46 children were "ineligible" for reunification because their parents failed background checks, had criminal records, or because of logistical issues, like having already been deported. (New York Times / Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...aration-714979

    5/ Thousands of asylum seekers will be turned away before they have an opportunity to plead their case in court under a new Trump administration policy. The new guidance instructs officers to reject asylum claims based on fears of gang and domestic violence. Officers will also consider whether an asylum seeker crossed the border illegally and to take that into consideration when weighing their claim. The new guidance also applies to refugees. (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/polit...ons/index.html

    6/ Brett Kavanaugh racked up tens of thousands of dollars in credit card debt from buying baseball tickets over the last decade. At times, Trump's Supreme Court nominee reported liabilities may have even exceeded the value of his cash and investment accounts. Kavanaugh's debts reached between $60,000 and $200,000 in 2016, but the loans were either paid off or fell below the reporting requirements by the following year. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.0a90e35db85c

    Kavanaugh on abortion: In a recent speech, he described Roe v. Wade as part of the "tide of freewheeling judicial creation of unenumerated rights." (Daily Beast)

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/just-l...rongly-decided

    Notables.

    Bill Shine's wife mocked victims of sexual harassment in the military and pushed conspiracy theories about vaccines on her radio show between 2008 and 2009. Darla Shine, the wife of Trump's deputy chief of staff for communications, declared herself a "sexist" and said women serving with men in the military should expect to be sexually harassed. Bill was ousted from Fox News for mishandling reports of sexual harassment at the network. (CNN / Mediaite / HuffPost)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/11/polit...how/index.html

    Trump's top economic adviser will be named the White House's legislative affairs director. Shahira Knight will replace Marc Short when he steps down later this month to join a D.C. consulting firm and teach at UVA. (Politico)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...irector-714982

    Who else has left the Trump administration. ( https://talk.whatthefuckjusthappened...ration/908/294 )

    Stormy Daniels was arrested during a performance at an Ohio strip club and charged with three misdemeanor sex offenses for touching three undercover police officers. The charges were later dismissed. Daniels' attorney called the charges a politically motivated setup. (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/polit...hio/index.html

    Robert Mueller asked a federal court in Virginia for 100 blank subpoenas in the case against Paul Manafort. The subpoenas would require the recipients to testify in federal court on July 25 – the day Manafort's trial is set to begin. Mueller asked for 150 blank subpoenas about a month ago. (The Hill)

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ad-of-manafort

    Trump called recognizing Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea "an interesting question." Congress, however, has legislated that it is U.S. policy "to never recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea by the Government of the Russian Federation." Trump will meet with Putin on July 16. (Bloomberg)

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-annexation

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