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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra Banclock View Post
    I have been laughing for five minutes straight ahaha Well not so "straight" but you catch my drift. ;) Congrats on finding your inner truth, it's NEVER too late for that. All the best for you, my friend.
    Hahaha thank you! Glad someone thought that was funny! It's extremely liberating to not have to worry about binding anymore. Though even not having tiddies weighing me down, I still have back problems regardless, haha! Cursed forever with bad posture.

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    Demon Rin, I wish you the smoothest of recoveries!


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    Lately I've been having mixed feelings about a Hungarian trans Facebook group.

    The surgeon that operated on my chest (top surgery - boob removal) seems to catch more flak than what I expected. It's fine as long as all of this is communicated in a civilized and respectful way, and I just decided not to really comment or recommend this surgeon anymore due to others having had not-so-ideal results and experience with him. On the other hand, criticism has gotten far ruder as of late. I'm not trying to shield the surgeon because I'm pretty sure he doesn't need it, but I recognize these comments might affect people who had surgery with him. Me being one of them and all that. Reading his works described as "butcheries" and "piece of shit (I actually struggle to find a good word is English for the one having been used, but you get the idea)" is quite unpleasant.

    This comment, understandably, really grind my gears, so I decided, if not to change the commenter's mindset, than to give a modicum of reassurance to the "silent watchers" that this is, in fact, not okay. The conversation ended with the guy saying that he thought the surgeon's results were fine until he saw "much better" ones. I left it at that, because at that point, I saw no point in continuing any further.

    Fast forward to today, a few weeks have passed, and someone makes a post musing about how there's hardly any pictures of surgery results in the group because "people are dissatisfied with their results and/or surgeon". He himself posted his which was from a different surgeon than mine, and seeing the overly positive comments, I decided against commenting, that maybe people are hesitant because a, they don't want their half-naked pictures on Facebook, even if it's in a closed group and b, maybe they don't want their chests being called butcheries down the line because some might think their results are worse than others.


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    Kelloggs decides to be supportive and makes a nice "togetherness" cereal in time for Pride month (mostly just a fancy Fruit Loops but all their icons are on the box), and as usual the right-wing orgs throw a hissy fit over it:
    https://www.comicsands.com/christian...cDXz8BsHuMKbPU

    To which Kelloggs basically says "fuck you" and also releases a line of rainbow rice krispie treats.

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    https://twitter.com/bilericoproject/...210299904?s=20
    She fails and everyone else passes, truly foolproof plan

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ent-in-schools


    Can I hug you Nolus? It doesnt sound fun. Being LGBT in Hungary.

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    “There are contents which children under a certain age can misunderstand and which may have a detrimental effect on their development at the given age, or which children simply cannot process, and which could therefore confuse their developing moral values or their image of themselves or the world,” said a Hungarian government spokesperson.
    You know, I never understood this argument. This talk about moral values being an absolute and universal thing.
    Like saying to a kid that some people feel attracted/love people of the same sex instantly flips a switch on the child's brain that make they go "okay, from now on I'm gonna be this thing I just discovered."
    It's like people still insist that sexual orientation is a choice and not a thing hardwired into the brain. But than again, the same people that have this line of though are incapable of dissociating gender form biological sex.

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    What bothers me with that argument is all the hate behind it.

    "We can't show kids same-sex couples or trans stuff because then they may think it's normal instead of growing up hating what they don't understand, luckily they won't understand it because we'll make sure to keep all relevant info away from them."

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    I was at a protest concerning this on Monday, and I felt in my heart of hearts that it will pass. It was part of a bigger plan anyway, a sort of decoy, while they went after the country's roads and highways (probably trying to make millions of forints disappear like some sort of overenthusiastic birthday magician).

    I hadn't high hopes, is all I'm saying. One thing, however, left an impression on me. During the protest, there were of course speeches, and during one of those I suddenly realized, that the (un)intended consequence of banning discourse among minors about LGBT+ issues is kids feeling the same debilitating confusion and loneliness I've felt. Growing up as someone not conforming to gender stereotypes and roles, the best I got is shrugs and denial when I tried communicating to the world that I feel so... other. I remember having a speaking exercise with my English teacher, whom I dearly loved and who appreciated me, and somehow the sentence "I feel like an alien" came out of my mouth. She just smiled and said something along the lines of "oh nonsense, you're perfectly fine". She meant no harm, and only tried to support me, but lacked the knowledge or resources to be truly able to help me. No one around me could. I was, at best, a socially inept tomboy, who caused little to no trouble and had good grades.

    Only at around age 20 have I finally started discovering the keys to my identity. When I saw people online saying: "It doesn't have to be that way. You don't have to be a certain way." As I dug deeper I slowly unearthed a whole different layer to the world, and the limits previously confining my reality were unmade. I was free. Terrified, but free to roam this world without chains.

    Sometimes I look back and wonder... how afraid my past self was, how I'd love nothing more than to reassure him that he's gonna be okay. He's not a human with defects, he's a wonderful creature just like everyone else that someday will find his place.

    How many children feel the same way as I did all those years ago? How many are confused, anxious and hopeless, having to blindly wade through life looking for answers all be themselves. I now know I wasn't alone, never have been, and my heart bleeds for those still in the dark, who are repeatedly denied relief from their anxieties, because some people still believe our very existence is a threat to their way of life. That we living our truths is a harsh propaganda meant to convert unassuming kids.

    I'm kinda glad my last surgery is going to be in another country, because I'm not sure what the situation will be like in a year or two.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pariston_hill View Post
    You know, I never understood this argument. This talk about moral values being an absolute and universal thing.
    Honestly, people should follow the one golden rule -- If it hurts none, do as you will. That should be the only moral anyone should have, in a way I mean.

    It's like people still insist that sexual orientation is a choice and not a thing hardwired into the brain. But than again, the same people that have this line of though are incapable of dissociating gender form biological sex.
    I mean I don't see sexual orientation as a choice, as you are born gay, bisexual or straight; but I do see gender and sex as the same thing. Meaning I am transgender so I see both my sex and gender as female and not Gender: Female, Sex: Male. I don't want any male label on me in any way shape or form because it does not feel right. It is why once I get my bottom surgery, I will have my gender/sex changed on my birth certificate as female. But yeah, just a different perspective to see from one transgender person. Though not all agree with what I say, but that's okay. I just wanted to share how I felt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolus View Post
    I'm kinda glad my last surgery is going to be in another country, because I'm not sure what the situation will be like in a year or two.
    What country will you be getting your surgery? Sadly, I can't get my bottom surgery till I get a BMI of 30... So, a goal for me for the next year. Hopefully I lose weight by then.

    I just hope things get better in your country... it sucks that it is going so backward like this. Like what happened to following the golden rule -- Do as you will, as long as you harm none?

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    Randy took a break from politics this time to make something for Pride month. By honoring someone he views as "the Goddess of Gays".


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    https://www.rawstory.com/lgbtq-pride/

    Better person than I. I would've told her to stop reading other people's bullshit and hung up on her.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    2021 Miss Nevada Will Be The First Openly Transgender Miss USA Contestant:
    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/03/10126...usa-contestant

    Woot! This is epic news! I can see why she won, she is very hot! xD

    Be cool if she wins Miss Universe! o:

    I love to be in this types of pageants, but I'm not pretty enough, despite that I love fashion. I probably look better once I lose weight.

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    She's gorgeous. And while I think beauty pageants are kinda dumb, it's nice to recognize a trans.

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    Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Issue Has A Trans Model On The Cover For The First Time:
    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/10183...el-leyna-bloom

    Woot!

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    I have been meaning to do this a while ago, but I want to join my story of coming out as transgender and discrimination I faced. I feel like this is important enough to show the struggles of being trans to non-trans people, but also I want to open up a little bit to people on AP.

    Spoiler:
    To start off with, I was born as intersex, or how I like to call it intersex male due to my biology sorta being male but not really. I raised as a male, though there were signs of me wanting to female. Specifically, like hating my private part and always sitting down to pee.

    I started hating having hair on my body, which is everywhere except on my head and eyebrows. I started to shave the hair off one part at a time. I didn't want to get caught by my mother who would frown about that. I started with just my wrists, then my chest, then finally my legs. (Somewhere around there my private area.) This was around 2010.

    I also had a period of crossdressing. It started after I dressed up as a girl for Halloween. I started to like the idea of painting my nails and wearing skirts! For work, I start to wear women's jeans. I think this helped me closer to figuring out who I really am to be.

    In 2012, I started to question my sex/gender, so I was confused if I wanted to be male or female. Eventually, I decided to be female, since a lot of the signs were there. I realized I was female because I picture myself with a female body AKA breasts and a vagina. This last part was a little down later on the road where I started to question again why I was transitioning, but it helped strengthen why I am a woman.

    I got my hormones on August 28, 2012! I started off with estrogen and two weeks later with testosterone blockers. When I got those blockers I finally started to present myself as a woman at my job at the time. I worked at a Walmart in Branson, Missouri. I did start to tell people about me changing sex/gender so I felt like I was too open. I did meet another trans woman who actually helped me get my hormones. She worked there at Home Office though later resigned to pursue her own thing.

    Now, here is where I started to face discrimination for being a transsexual. It was about the whole bathroom issue. I was basically stuck with either going to the men's or the private family bathroom in the far back of the store. Which is what I stuck with, the private bathroom, as I was uncomfortable with the idea of going to the men's.

    After some time in 2013, I decided to ask about using the female bathroom since I was passing more. One manager was fine, but he went to another one, and that one had a talk with me. He literally told me I couldn't go to the women's restroom till I got my bottom surgery. So, I decided to report him for discrimination.

    When I talked with the home office lady, everything came crashing down. She was on his side and not mine. I tried to fight, and she went so far to say that since Missouri didn't have transgender protections, she won't do anything. Apparently, it was such a big deal that I was male first and then changed to female, so apparently she was "thinking of the other women who worked there." That night I was so pissed where I imagined all the lights in the store just blinking out of existence.

    I tried to reach out to others to get support, but... that led to the truth of how people really thought of me. They "accepted" me but when it came to the bathroom issue, they showed their true colors. I remember one lady mocking me -- She was like "You, a woman?" and then she scoffed at it. I also felt betrayed by another friend who was female. She felt uncomfortable sharing the bathroom with me.

    After some time, I had another bathroom option, which was thanks to the new customer service manager. You see, I was basically a cashier at the time, so it was a pain to go to the back. The other bathroom option was to use the washroom located in the abandoned doctor's office. This option was great till the place got taken for some other usage.

    Sometime between all that, I had to deal with a customer who was very rude. He basically went around harassing me by calling me sir. I tried to reach out to a manager, but it was the same one who rejected the bathroom thing. He was like "Not all people will accept you, and I just had to deal with that." Instead of you know, making it so that I can feel at peace at work.

    Another incident I had that I'm sure it was transphobia was the switch from overnights to working in the daytime. I was told I was supposed to find my replacement, which I did, and then they rejected him. Apparently, they wanted him to be a stocker, but he wanted to stay as a cashier. And like he was supposed to be my replacement, so why not stay as cashier? It was just a pain and stressful moment. I then learned that it wasn't up to me to find someone to replace, it was management's job. After I complained enough I finally got to work on days.

    Eventually, I learned through research that Walmart itself that transgender protections. So, I went to a different manager that knew me and told him my story and struggles with this whole bathroom thing. He decided to go through home office, but I told him about the home office lady that was rude. So, he went through another person that was in the higher ups. And a few days later, he talked to me and said I can choose to go to any bathroom I wanted.

    After a happy moment, a few months later - 2015, I ended up getting a stalker who worked there. Her name is Polly and she scared me greatly; I felt very uncomfortable around her and tried to be friends. I decided to cut her off but still work with her if needed. (Though I refused to speak to her.) She was extremely obsessed about me to the point where she left a creepy letter on my car saying she watches when I sleep at my lunch break and even admitted she will try to sexual assault me because she couldn't resist.

    Sexual assault as in basically kiss attacking me on the lips. That really scared me and I got stuck working on a few registers close to my bosses. I was to park where the cameras could see me. This was to help me feel safe.

    It gotten worse though where Polly decided to ask someone that worked there to spy on me when I go to Denny's... that was the last straw and I quit my job. Walmart did nothing for several months and all I had to deal with going to work was being scared. I wanted to sue Walmart, but I was too cowardly to stand up for myself, so I gave up.

    In 2016, I moved to my current city of Pittsburgh from Missouri. I wanted to go to a place where there was transgender protections. The only really transphobia I faced was from customers. (I worked at a Dollar General around this time.) Like using the wrong pronouns even if I corrected them telling them that I am woman. I still face some of that to this day, I don't mind slip-ups but if after I tell you and you still refuse to disrespect me, I'm done being nice.

    Nowadays, I'm still scarred by the past, like even though I have protections to use facilities, I still get that paranoia and fear. Like at college, I was brave enough to use the showers there after using the gym, though it sucks it was open showers, so I just had my underwear on to feel safe and not scare anyone with the part I still have. Lucky for me, no one really used them, so it was nice.

    There was some other things too, like my mom not accepting me for who I am, though I have been reconnecting with her, and making her an exception to call me by my birth name. She isn't good with change, and I feel like once she sees me as who I am, she will start to see the truth and accept me. The good news is since I graduated in the spring of this year, my brother showed her my degree, and she didn't get triggered by my name on there! So, that is progress.

    As for surgeries, I only had laser hair removal which helped my face look more feminine. I do need more work on my voice as it sounds gender neutral and I want to sound like more like a woman. I also plan on getting bottom surgery, and lucky for me, Medicaid in my state can cover it. Though I have to get a BMI of 30 before I can even get it, but that's a goal I have been working on, so I can finally feel complete and be me.

    If you read up to this point, thank you for taking the time to read all this! I had quite a journey, but I'm happy that these days people are becoming more accepting of people like me. There's still a lot of progress, but I know eventually people will be understanding over time. I always try to educate others about this. With sharing my story, I'm educating everyone about my life as a trans woman. But anyways, thanks again for taking the time to read this! I hope it helped give some light on how life is for a trans person like me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by starlalilymoon View Post
    I have been meaning to do this a while ago, but I want to join my story of coming out as transgender and discrimination I faced. I feel like this is important enough to show the struggles of being trans to non-trans people, but also I want to open up a little bit to people on AP.

    Spoiler:
    To start off with, I was born as intersex, or how I like to call it intersex male due to my biology sorta being male but not really. I raised as a male, though there were signs of me wanting to female. Specifically, like hating my private part and always sitting down to pee.

    I started hating having hair on my body, which is everywhere except on my head and eyebrows. I started to shave the hair off one part at a time. I didn't want to get caught by my mother who would frown about that. I started with just my wrists, then my chest, then finally my legs. (Somewhere around there my private area.) This was around 2010.

    I also had a period of crossdressing. It started after I dressed up as a girl for Halloween. I started to like the idea of painting my nails and wearing skirts! For work, I start to wear women's jeans. I think this helped me closer to figuring out who I really am to be.

    In 2012, I started to question my sex/gender, so I was confused if I wanted to be male or female. Eventually, I decided to be female, since a lot of the signs were there. I realized I was female because I picture myself with a female body AKA breasts and a vagina. This last part was a little down later on the road where I started to question again why I was transitioning, but it helped strengthen why I am a woman.

    I got my hormones on August 28, 2012! I started off with estrogen and two weeks later with testosterone blockers. When I got those blockers I finally started to present myself as a woman at my job at the time. I worked at a Walmart in Branson, Missouri. I did start to tell people about me changing sex/gender so I felt like I was too open. I did meet another trans woman who actually helped me get my hormones. She worked there at Home Office though later resigned to pursue her own thing.

    Now, here is where I started to face discrimination for being a transsexual. It was about the whole bathroom issue. I was basically stuck with either going to the men's or the private family bathroom in the far back of the store. Which is what I stuck with, the private bathroom, as I was uncomfortable with the idea of going to the men's.

    After some time in 2013, I decided to ask about using the female bathroom since I was passing more. One manager was fine, but he went to another one, and that one had a talk with me. He literally told me I couldn't go to the women's restroom till I got my bottom surgery. So, I decided to report him for discrimination.

    When I talked with the home office lady, everything came crashing down. She was on his side and not mine. I tried to fight, and she went so far to say that since Missouri didn't have transgender protections, she won't do anything. Apparently, it was such a big deal that I was male first and then changed to female, so apparently she was "thinking of the other women who worked there." That night I was so pissed where I imagined all the lights in the store just blinking out of existence.

    I tried to reach out to others to get support, but... that led to the truth of how people really thought of me. They "accepted" me but when it came to the bathroom issue, they showed their true colors. I remember one lady mocking me -- She was like "You, a woman?" and then she scoffed at it. I also felt betrayed by another friend who was female. She felt uncomfortable sharing the bathroom with me.

    After some time, I had another bathroom option, which was thanks to the new customer service manager. You see, I was basically a cashier at the time, so it was a pain to go to the back. The other bathroom option was to use the washroom located in the abandoned doctor's office. This option was great till the place got taken for some other usage.

    Sometime between all that, I had to deal with a customer who was very rude. He basically went around harassing me by calling me sir. I tried to reach out to a manager, but it was the same one who rejected the bathroom thing. He was like "Not all people will accept you, and I just had to deal with that." Instead of you know, making it so that I can feel at peace at work.

    Another incident I had that I'm sure it was transphobia was the switch from overnights to working in the daytime. I was told I was supposed to find my replacement, which I did, and then they rejected him. Apparently, they wanted him to be a stocker, but he wanted to stay as a cashier. And like he was supposed to be my replacement, so why not stay as cashier? It was just a pain and stressful moment. I then learned that it wasn't up to me to find someone to replace, it was management's job. After I complained enough I finally got to work on days.

    Eventually, I learned through research that Walmart itself that transgender protections. So, I went to a different manager that knew me and told him my story and struggles with this whole bathroom thing. He decided to go through home office, but I told him about the home office lady that was rude. So, he went through another person that was in the higher ups. And a few days later, he talked to me and said I can choose to go to any bathroom I wanted.

    After a happy moment, a few months later - 2015, I ended up getting a stalker who worked there. Her name is Polly and she scared me greatly; I felt very uncomfortable around her and tried to be friends. I decided to cut her off but still work with her if needed. (Though I refused to speak to her.) She was extremely obsessed about me to the point where she left a creepy letter on my car saying she watches when I sleep at my lunch break and even admitted she will try to sexual assault me because she couldn't resist.

    Sexual assault as in basically kiss attacking me on the lips. That really scared me and I got stuck working on a few registers close to my bosses. I was to park where the cameras could see me. This was to help me feel safe.

    It gotten worse though where Polly decided to ask someone that worked there to spy on me when I go to Denny's... that was the last straw and I quit my job. Walmart did nothing for several months and all I had to deal with going to work was being scared. I wanted to sue Walmart, but I was too cowardly to stand up for myself, so I gave up.

    In 2016, I moved to my current city of Pittsburgh from Missouri. I wanted to go to a place where there was transgender protections. The only really transphobia I faced was from customers. (I worked at a Dollar General around this time.) Like using the wrong pronouns even if I corrected them telling them that I am woman. I still face some of that to this day, I don't mind slip-ups but if after I tell you and you still refuse to disrespect me, I'm done being nice.

    Nowadays, I'm still scarred by the past, like even though I have protections to use facilities, I still get that paranoia and fear. Like at college, I was brave enough to use the showers there after using the gym, though it sucks it was open showers, so I just had my underwear on to feel safe and not scare anyone with the part I still have. Lucky for me, no one really used them, so it was nice.

    There was some other things too, like my mom not accepting me for who I am, though I have been reconnecting with her, and making her an exception to call me by my birth name. She isn't good with change, and I feel like once she sees me as who I am, she will start to see the truth and accept me. The good news is since I graduated in the spring of this year, my brother showed her my degree, and she didn't get triggered by my name on there! So, that is progress.

    As for surgeries, I only had laser hair removal which helped my face look more feminine. I do need more work on my voice as it sounds gender neutral and I want to sound like more like a woman. I also plan on getting bottom surgery, and lucky for me, Medicaid in my state can cover it. Though I have to get a BMI of 30 before I can even get it, but that's a goal I have been working on, so I can finally feel complete and be me.

    If you read up to this point, thank you for taking the time to read all this! I had quite a journey, but I'm happy that these days people are becoming more accepting of people like me. There's still a lot of progress, but I know eventually people will be understanding over time. I always try to educate others about this. With sharing my story, I'm educating everyone about my life as a trans woman. But anyways, thanks again for taking the time to read this! I hope it helped give some light on how life is for a trans person like me!
    Thanks for sharing. I'm cis, but during the last year I had a classmate transition from man to woman and it was a bit of a wake up call, I hadn't know anyone I cared about before who was transgender. So I'd like to at least try and understand more. Sharing experiences like this helps a lot, much more than trying to look up information online (there's so many definitions and opinions that change so fast).

    Good luck on your journey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zar View Post
    Thanks for sharing. I'm cis, but during the last year I had a classmate transition from man to woman and it was a bit of a wake up call, I hadn't know anyone I cared about before who was transgender. So I'd like to at least try and understand more. Sharing experiences like this helps a lot, much more than trying to look up information online (there's so many definitions and opinions that change so fast).
    You're very welcome! If you have any questions about it all you can ask me anything and I shall answer! :3

    Good luck on your journey!
    Thank you! My plan is to get my bottom surgery hopefully next summer! I can't wait! I be calling it V-Day! (V for Vagina) xD

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    You have always made me feel welcome and loved! I hope I will make you feel the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Krupp View Post
    You have always made me feel welcome and loved! I hope I will make you feel the same.
    You're welcome! I'm glad! =^.^=

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