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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    I wonder what this potential news means for the amount of new pokemon it'll deliver. If this was truly a large scale game, I would love to see the number of pokemon get to 999 or 1000.
    Maybe, but I'll settle for being actually able to catch them all in one game.

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    An EXTREMELY reliable insider and "leaker" named king zell (a member on the gaming forum, ResetEra, and a reddit user) has said (yesterday) that Pokemon 2019 (the next game, currently untitled, "true beginning" of Generation 8) is going to be Breath of the Wild-tier (apparently the game has been in development close to 3 years now) when it comes to design, scale, and importance placed on it by Nintendo (probably gonna be their BIG showcase game at E3 2019). It's suppose to do what Breath of the Wild did for the Zelda series, but...to the Pokemon series.
    .
    Well, the BotW open world free exploration go anywhere you want without artificial barriers approach is basically what we all want, so... it'd be nice if true. But if they just mean "graphics" but the direction you go is as on-rails, hand holding and cinema heavy as SM was, then... bleh.

    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    I wonder what this potential news means for the amount of new pokemon it'll deliver. If this was truly a large scale game, I would love to see the number of pokemon get to 999 or 1000.
    That is incredibly unlikely. We're only at 809 right now, and even the biggest gens have only brought 150.

    Especially now that they reinvent old monsters with mega forms and aloan forms (or whatever the new region variant is)... I'd imagine that we're probably going to see about 80 new things again (including 9 starters and 20 legendaries....) and 30-50 revisits of old things. That seems to have been their method of choice now.

    If it was JUST the games they had to consider, I could see one of them randomly pushing into 200 monsters, since other monster collection games have managed that, but since they have to deal with marketing new toys, movies, the anime, etc., they seem to have figured out about what they can pace in a typical 3 year period comfortably.

    But that'll pave the path for Gen 9 to hit 1000 in 2022 or so for a late 25th anniversary.

    (The original game came out in February 96 in Japan so the actual anniversary would be 2021... but between anniveraries lasting a whole year, multiple games, the anime, and the rest of the world releases, they can fudge the dates however they want to exploit the big 25 for a while.)
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    Yeah... I'd expect around maybe 70 to 75 (or something) new Pokemon at the very MAX (they will, of course, implement old Pokemon to make the dex of the game bigger of course) if they are truly redoing the world design and formula, and amping up the scale of the game itself as it sounds they are doing.

    Most of the effort will probably be put into the world design and such over implementing a bunch of new Pokemon.


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    I want my cake and to eat it too. My favorite gens are always the ones with a bunch of new pokemon that aren't just evos or prevos of old ones ie 3 (especially 3) 5, and 1. Buuuut, if they truly do expand the world and the gameplay in interesting and fresh ways, I'll be more than happy with a smaller amount of new Pokemon.

    Also, if they do go the smaller pokedex route, I hope there are less legendaries or special (UB style) Pokemon, so more Gen 6 than 7.

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    I'm hoping for some evolutions for old pokemon actually, the new Mewtwo movie is called evolution, so I'm hoping that is a theme once again like Gen 4, hopefully with Mega evolutions also being part of it.

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    No more cross generation evolutions, they look weird and tack on concepts that are barelly related to the original mon (except weirdly eevee), like Rydon is now a construction worker! Magmar is now artilery! Baby pikachu has a litte suit/bib!
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    The thing I want the most for the next Pokemon game is for leakers to shut the fuck up and just let people enjoy the pacing of release of information.

    Maybe I'm just jaded because the Smash cycle involved such a stupid amount of rumors, insiders, "leakers", text leaks and all that, but it seriously just gets tiring. Particularly since when you follow gaming news and sites the leaks are outright shoved in your face more than half the time. Let pokemon company release information when they want and how they want and actually surprise people with that information.
    It's like sitting down to enjoy a book while some asshole is sitting next to you screaming "HEY THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL STUFF IN TWO PAGES THAT WILL IMPACT X CHARACTER AND REVEAL Y INFO AND IT WILL BE SUPER COOL, TRUST ME." At a moderate level it can be enticing and make you curious for what's coming. But at the level it's like now it's just overwhelming and exhausting and makes you long for the release of everything officially not to enjoy it but just so people can stop being attention whores and shut the fuck up.

    At the least with this one it's something so impossibly vague and uninformative that it can be ignored, pretty much the equivalent of saying "the game will have new stuff that will change the franchise!" (which could be said about every pokemon release ever). And "leaking" that the marketing cycle will be starting soon is not a leak as much as it is a reasonable assumption. Not to mention the fact that soon could mean next week as easily as it could mean March or April.

    /rant

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    ^ Yep .
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    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    Not a lot of people may know this, but I love Popplio.

    Honorable mentions: Fennekin, Cyndaquil, Snivy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    Squirtle will always be my #1

    Tododile, Treeko, Popplio, and Mudkip are all #2

    I definitely don't favor water types
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    It's either Squirtle or Oshawott for me. I always go for the Water starter.
    Oshawott needs more love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bond en Avant View Post
    It's either Squirtle or Oshawott for me. I always go for the Water starter.
    Oshawott needs more love.
    I think you mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    Rowlet. Not for any practical reasons mind you, I just think it's over-the-top adorable.
    Second place would be the Greninja line, for just generally being super versatile and strong and just plain cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    Turtwig is my number 1.

    If we go by region then: Bulbasaur, Cyndaquil, Mudkip, Turtwig, Snivy, and for the last two it's a toss up between Chespin/Fennekin and Rowlet/Popplio.

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    Favorite:
    Bulbasaur

    Tier list

    Spoiler:

    High
    Squirtle, Cindaquill, Totodile, Snivy, Fenekin, Rowlet

    Ok
    Charmander, Chikorita, Treecko, Mudkip, Chimchar, Oshawoot, Litten, Popplio

    Low
    Torchic, Turtwig, Pipplup, Tepig, Chespin, Froakie



    List purelly based on their initial forms, there would be a lot of shuffling if it meant "the whole package".
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    Totodile is my interior crocodile alligator.

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    If we are going by initial form than charmander is the goat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiebs View Post
    What are your guys favorite Starter pokemon???
    My top favorite is the Mudkip line. I loved the typing, it has a unique design, and was amazing to play through on Ruby for the first time.

    Per gens, Charmander's line has become my favorite. It used to be a tie between Bulbasaur and Charmander, but I've become to Charizard after using it's X Mega in my normal OU team on Pokemon Showdown.

    I....really don't like the Gen 2 starters. Cyndaquil is my go to, but I HATE the fact that they're all monotype, and really don't have anything unique to set them apart.

    I actually really love all of the Gen 4 starters. I think my first run on Diamond was with Turtwig, but I've played through that and Platinum dozens of times with each of the starters. Love all of their designs and typing. Even Infernape, even if it was in the middle of the "fire/fighting" trifecta that overstayed it's welcome. Plus, part of it was because I loved Ash's infernape and it's story in the anime, which the Diamond and Pearl anime was the last I regularly watched.

    Unova is my favorite region, though I'm not the biggest fan of the starters. I usually pick Oshwatt, and think he stands out enough in all of his evolved forms to say he's my favorite. Though my first run ever on black was with Tepig which I ditched once I was able to get a Darmanitan. At this point I was simply done with the Fire/fighting types. And while I don't like Snivy or most grass types, I appreciate it's design and can see why others would love it.

    Gen 6 is weird. I hated X and Y. It highlighted a lot of the issues I've had with the franchise going forward. That absolutely played into my feelings with these starters. I believe I chose Froakie on my first play through of X. While I appreciated the inclusion of the Dark/Psy/Fighting triangle many had theorized they'd use for a group of starters, instead of the Fire/Water/Grass, it felt flat for me. Mainly because in these games....well you get handed EVERYTHING. You always got Pokemon as gifts in games but I mean

    -Kalos Starter
    -Kanto Starter w/ Mega Stone
    -Luccario

    And I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting. But the fact that they gave two starter Pokemon just made me lose any connection to my Kalos Starter.

    And finally, for Alola, I honestly really liked all of their designs. While my first run on Moon was with a Litten, I played Ultra Moon with Popplio and fell in love with the little guy. The fact that Rowlett eventually lost it's Grass/Flying typing is what kept me from ever playing it. i wanted to! In the hype for Sun/Moon I was set on getting Rowlett. I always loved Tropius from Gen 3, but it sucked. So I thought this would be the redemption for that. Nope.
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    1st stage: Rowlet. 2nd stage: Grotle. 3rd stage: Serperior/Incineroar


    Don't know which starter would be my favorite if I took the whole line into account, never figured it out.

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