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    Default Re: Random News Article Discussion II: is racism racist?

    I confess I tuned this portion of the thread out at "IMPERIALIST MEDIA". I dunno there are just certain things that, once said unironically, destroy my ability to take the speaker seriously.

    (Skims thread to catch up)
    And now we're back to racism vs racism?
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    It's one of those debates that refuses to die until all of one side has been completely annihilated. Kind of like racism in real life, except here there's a lot less actual violence and killing and significantly more snark and... humor? Is that the right word?

    Don't be humorist.

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/05/mi...ror/index.html

    Saudi,UAE,Egypt and Bahrain cut ties with Qatar,accusing it affecting national security and of supporting terrorism.

    Basically it seems to be reaction to Qatar's closeness to Iran from what i can tell.

    Very interesting that Al-Jazeera,the largest Arab media house is based in Qatar and the entire spat seems to have publically started out over a hacking of qatar's state media.

    How will Oman respond?This is pretty big
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamminbrown View Post
    Don't be humorist.
    I don't see myself stopping anytime soon, unfortunately :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamminbrown View Post
    It's one of those debates that refuses to die until all of one side has been completely annihilated. Kind of like racism in real life, except here there's a lot less actual violence and killing and significantly more snark and... humor? Is that the right word?

    Don't be humorist.
    It's easy for the debate to die, you just have to know when to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noqanky View Post
    It's easy for the debate to die, you just have to know when to stop.
    This peace train doesn't have an end of the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjamminbrown View Post
    This peace train doesn't have an end of the line.
    I wonder if you realize the irony of how much you bothered other people before when they kept on talking and wouldn't stop and you kept telling them and wanting them to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli View Post
    Before you keep irrationally mocking me, a video of Leopoldo López explaining how he and Capriles kidnapped Rodriguez Chacin during the 2002 U.S. backed failed coup d'etat in Venezuela.



    Saying "Leopoldo López" is a political prisoner is not knowing what you are talking about or blatantly lying. Which is what IMPERIALIST MEDIA does.
    Yes, Imperialist media who aligns with my 27 years of life, where I have watched dear Chavez dismanteled any and all means to remove him from power, becoming a cult of personality, making the economy just depend on the state so when oil prices crashed venezuela becomes cubanized.

    I've seen how the army went from an institution to chavez's cocksuckers.
    I've seen how the money for infrastructure suddenly appeared in miami and madrid houses of the close relatives of the ministers
    I've seen how many regular crimes
    I've heard a fucking grenade, stolen or "stolen" from a military armory blew up the street bellow
    My friends have been kidnaped for rescue, lost everything they had, and be forced to move on
    I've talked with people who HAVE to dance the goverment's tune, most of them aren't because ideology or "the imperialist right has to be stopped", but because they have to eat, and depend on medicines, and the fear of not getting any.
    I have to send my mother's great aunt her heart medicine because the goverment is blocking imports of medicine.
    When I travel back, I have to fill my suitcase with medicines, deodorant and toothpaste. Every Venezuelan that I know also does that.
    I've seen how after hardships and suffering we managed to beat Chavez electorally, just to him to go back up and push the same elections again, with the money of the state.
    And now, instead of trying to negociate and diffuse this issue, they keep on selling the future of the country to the lowest price possible, to fucking wall street: https://www.caracaschronicles.com/20...nt-much-worse/
    After selling who knows how much future Oil to the chinesse, and how many foreign assets to the Russians.

    I guess I AM imperialist media, if Imperialist media is "A view that doesn't paint the asshole murderers of nations because Ideology, like castro, chavez, el che as heroes", you don't get to go "lalalalalalala IMPERIALIST MEDIA" against someone who lived all this shit.


    tldw; of the video, Minister of Interior and Justice, Rodriguez Chacin was holed up with weapons the day after april 11th 2002, where goverment agents shoot the protesters on Llaguno bridge, as the man in charge of the security and safety of the state, was his responsability to answer for the gunmen. The two mayors went in, talked him into surrendering, and he was released not two days after, where all judgments of the Llaguno Bridge shooting were sweeped under the rug. My guess is that the day was more complicated that "The CIA attacked us, but didn't kill chavez because of reasons"

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Oh, there's the armed populace, because they are peaceful, they armed whatever person swore loyalty to Zombie Chavez.


    I place the blame of this current situation solely in the goverment of Venezuela for the last 17 years, because instead of investing on sensible things like hospitals and public service infrastructure, they buy riffles through shady deals, build the "missions" in a way that they are inacountable black boxes where public budget goes in, and a fifth of what was paid comes out.

    They went and took over private business, many times without the propper compensation, and any and all companies that they took over, they grinded to the ground.

    The economy, this one is a doozie, but currency control, meaning that there is a way to get $ and € throught the goverment in a completely irreal price, and increacingly difficult hoops to jump (if you aren't allied with the goverment that is) and a real rate that is over 700% that price, Let's take my last pay, it was around 12k Bs. that througth the official rate was around 1800$, and through the market price was just 60$, that means that If you managed to get the goverment rate, you could bleed the country for that ammount, but if You couldn't get the official rate, then the goverment forced you to sell at that rate, meaning that if they didn't aprove your $ you just coulnd't import and sell, and had to close.

    Maybe if the govrement needs to wreck things enough to not be taken out by "the evil right", that at this point is anyone hungry, maybe just maybe, they should focus on working instead of perpetuating themself in power?

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Oh, and how Leopoldo's "crime" was committed in 2002, and incarcerated him with completely different charges 12 years later. Not shady at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBlue View Post
    Fuck it, that was clearly over the line. *Threadbanned*
    What was exactly over the line? I'm asking because I'm an ignorant who has no idea what's happening in Venezuela. (except that people are hungry)

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    tldr; the goverment is colapsing because they took the responsability of food and medicine distribution, the oil prices colapsed, they destroyed most of the productive aparatus of the nation, and they blame it in an "economic war" that claims that everything that ails them is product of "the empire" (Codeword for "The international right"), but fail to answer how their leftist economist didn't predict that severe market distorsions created by extreme price controls, destruction of private investment, and failing to provide stable economical and social institutions would damage the economy.

    Also, the propaganda machine, and Chavez sheer charisma was used to paint themselves as victims. How many useful idiots like Shean Penn, Noam Chomsky, and other just belived him, and claim that other sources of information are just lies.

    How he framed the ills of the people as the Right's fault, that they didn't had education or healthcare before him (they did), how many people died in the coup against him (justifiyng the deaths on both of his coups as he was the one moraly correct), and how he had armed the most radical believer of his followers to "Defend the revolution against imperial invaders". In reality he planted hate and weapons into dangerous groups to use without repercutions against his political opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noqanky View Post
    I wonder if you realize the irony of how much you bothered other people before when they kept on talking and wouldn't stop and you kept telling them and wanting them to stop.
    Indeed, we could all probably learn a little better where/when to draw the line. At least I kept things civil this go 'round~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    *Robo reaches nirvana as left-wing equivalent extremist finally shows up*
    Hey MK,what do you think about the Qatar thing?What exactly is going on there?They have cancelled all flights to Qatar,asked all diplomatic staff to leave.would like to know your view on the matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    What was exactly over the line? I'm asking because I'm an ignorant who has no idea what's happening in Venezuela. (except that people are hungry)
    I think it was more the clearly insulting use of the c word as a personal insult.
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    btw, why is Trump called a racist? like racist against black people? It's okay to call him islamophobic, racist against mexicans and latinos or even arabs but why against black people? I don't remember him saying something against them. Or I'm dumb i don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    tldr; the goverment is colapsing because they took the responsability of food and medicine distribution, the oil prices colapsed, they destroyed most of the productive aparatus of the nation, and they blame it in an "economic war" that claims that everything that ails them is product of "the empire" (Codeword for "The international right"), but fail to answer how their leftist economist didn't predict that severe market distorsions created by extreme price controls, destruction of private investment, and failing to provide stable economical and social institutions would damage the economy.

    Also, the propaganda machine, and Chavez sheer charisma was used to paint themselves as victims. How many useful idiots like Shean Penn, Noam Chomsky, and other just belived him, and claim that other sources of information are just lies.

    How he framed the ills of the people as the Right's fault, that they didn't had education or healthcare before him (they did), how many people died in the coup against him (justifiyng the deaths on both of his coups as he was the one moraly correct), and how he had armed the most radical believer of his followers to "Defend the revolution against imperial invaders". In reality he planted hate and weapons into dangerous groups to use without repercutions against his political opponents.
    I understand the populist part, but I'm an ignorant when it comes to economy. I don't know if it's hard to grasp or if I am just overcomplicating it myself tbh.
    The crisis Venezuela is going through is very recent right? So, is this because Chavez's reforms weren't made for the long run? is this only because of oil? Why was a putsch attempted in 2002? Is the US involved in this mess? How did distributing food and medicine led to the collapse of the government?

    Anyway, I'm currently reading and listening journalists and specialists on the matter. I'll be less ignorant in a day or two I guess.
    Last edited by Nilitch; June 5th, 2017 at 06:38 AM.

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    Long story short is that chavez waged war against private industries, and keept making policies that were disfavorable for anyone not "properly connected" to the state. Meaning if the company wasn't state owned, or owned by someone with deals with the state it would be hard pressed to come by foreign money.

    This was terrible, but the country keept on trucking by purchasing... you know what? these dudes explain it better: https://www.caracaschronicles.com/20...iral-in-japan/

    High oil prices meant that this unsustainable mess was allowed to continue. Once oil went down, then everyone wanted to keep their slices of the cake as big as they were, and something had to give. Meaning food and medicine imports.

    Production was destroyed by chavez, imports were controlled by the goverment and destroyed by low oil prices.

    It's like I come to a town, I purchase and poison the waterholes, and then I bring water from outside at a big cost, and distribute it at the cost of the original water source, and I forbid anyone of bringing water or recovering the waterholes. Once the money that I use to bring water is over, I die and my incompetent cronies focus on the profits instead of the water supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    What was exactly over the line? I'm asking because I'm an ignorant who has no idea what's happening in Venezuela. (except that people are hungry)
    His use of the word "cunt".

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    Trump has literally accused all Mexican immigrants of being thieves, murderers, and rapists

    If that ain't racist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sggupta View Post
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/05/mi...ror/index.html

    Saudi,UAE,Egypt and Bahrain cut ties with Qatar,accusing it affecting national security and of supporting terrorism.

    Basically it seems to be reaction to Qatar's closeness to Iran from what i can tell.

    Very interesting that Al-Jazeera,the largest Arab media house is based in Qatar and the entire spat seems to have publically started out over a hacking of qatar's state media.

    How will Oman respond?This is pretty big
    I feel out of my depth on this issue, bit this does seem big considering all the oil these countries hold. Also, where exactly does Saudi Arabia get off lecturing about terrorism? Surely their issue is something else.

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    ‘KILL THEM ALL,’ CONGRESSMAN CLAY HIGGINS SAYS OF TERRORISM SUSPECTS AFTER LONDON ATTACKS

    http://www.newsweek.com/clay-higgins...hem-all-621066

    Louisiana Rep. Clay Higgins, speaking directly to “Christendom,” responded to*attacks in London by stating anyone suspected to be an "Islamic radical" should be hunted down and killed in a Facebook post Sunday, hours after seven people were killed and 48 others injured in the British capital.

    Higgins, a former law enforcement officer who claimed his seat for the state’s third district last year, was one of many to vehemently condemn*Saturday’s attack by suggesting punishments such as death and internment camps.*
    The actual Facebook post

    https://m.facebook.com/captclayhiggi...type=3&theater
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    How are people like that still allowed to be in office? smh

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