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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    Why are so many Middle-Eastern (and leftist) people so obsessed with CIA/Zionist conspiracy theories?
    That includes South Asians too. The CIA is seen somewhat as a larger than life organization which has its control over multiple major events happening across the globe. The guy who wrote the above post also regularly posts far left stuff and has around 1.5k+ followers who follow him o_O To give him some credit, he does post some good posts about world economy

    I caught him bullshitting once about the Russia-Ukraine crisis where he also claimed that the CIA was extensively involved in it years before it started but this one went way over my head with multiple events unknown to me cramped into a conspiracy post.
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    Apparently the Nice attacker was a promiscuos bissexual man and not really a devout muslim until recently.http://www.newsweek.com/nice-attacke...y-481221?rx=us
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    Rohtak is a shithole. Even some of my guy friends who study there are advised not to travel alone after 6 around those places

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    okWelp, its bullshit. I don't really have to go farther than "IT WAS CIA" to tell that. Let alone buying into Erdogan's kooky obsession with Gulen.Nope. And yes I do think the military is secular and doesn't like leader's who lean Islamic like Adnan and Erbakan. And the coups aren't aligned with screwing with social-right wing leaders anyway, just some of them. The 80' one was aimed at just establishing order.Also the CIA pulling coups against right wing leaders...in the Cold War??If the CIA would be involved in fucking with Turkey like that in that time, why wouldn't they have gone after Bulent Ecevit. Who took the Kemalist party and injected it with a modern socialist element. Plus the guy conspiracy theorists love to claim was assassinated (Ozal) who I assume whoever wrote this assumes the CIA killed....was totally in deep and cosy with the US. Like he was down with Reagan and Bush and all of them. Christ.Yeah, all those coups in Capitalist Europe. Such as the leftist oriented Portuguese one that deposed the anti-communist right wing dictatorship. The dread inconsistent tendrils of the CIA."Bulent Ecevit, a Turkish Prime Minister in the 1970s, wrote, “As Prime Minister I first became aware of its existence in 1974 through requests from Semih Sancar, chief of the General Staff, for money for secret payments to the Special Warfare Department. I was shocked.” Special Warfare Department was a special, hitherto unknown wing of the military that was only revealed in the 70s as being a faction “to organise resistence in the case of a communist occupation”, as explained by the Turkish military leadership."Ok. Where's the link to the US here? The SWD in terms of action most notably involved itself if Cyprus, which was not a sanctioned action by the US. There's a overestimation of how much control the CIA had in such groups, they funded and even trained right wing groups but then such groups tended to be loosed. And what happens next? Well shucks.Also this is ALL Cold War stuff from like 50-40 years ago. Trying to link this to 2016 is comical at best, retarded at worst.Alright, I'm glad this person who wrote this isn't actually here because now I'm pissed off. I mean I get pissed off when people aggressivly subscribe to intellectually lazy conspiracy theories to begin with. But gee willkers Batman! Bulent Ecevit, in 1974, being targeted for death. Turkey, in the year 1974. Just any old year! Yeah man! Total coincidence for the Turkish leader of the year 1974 to have people deathly furious with him! But because all people and events in the world lead back to the CIA and nothing exists outside of that, sure! Your dumb ass thinks the only explanation is CIA! For all reading this, go google "Bulent Ecevit Assassination Attempt" and see how quick you uncover why and who wanted to kill him. And see also why I am pissed off. And in fact it did by and large. Which should signal to a thinking person that maybe Turks actually have their own complex internal politics and neighborhood that might contribute to unfortunate events.This is a funny way of trying to explain how even though you no longer have a motivation for your villain, you still want to cast them in every role.Well no wonder you subscribe to the Gulen theory, you do the same "fixate absurdly on one name and attribute everything to them" method of critical thinking.That's actually a really stupid way since Turkey's relations to that part of the world are linguistic (and religious but that's meaningless in the region) and actually insanely shallow otherwise!Like 90 years earlier Enver Pasha (one of the Young Turk leaders) also went off to Central Asia to screw with Russia (and died), dumb as it is, Turkish wierdos sometimes imagine Central Asia as their blood brothers and do things like involve themselves in their problems and fights. So was Enver Pasha also being used by the nonexistent CIA? But yeah ok, out of the blue sure. The CIA invented Pan-Turkism?What interest is this? The countries that left the dead USSR that the US didn't care about anymore, because it was dead, and the US wanted....what? Literally the only sources I'm seeing talking about these two together are garbage, or pro-Gulen sites complaining about the garbage. Also how does one take Central Asian countries away from the influence of a dead country. No seriously, this bullshit relies on Cold War logic and just pretending like the end of the Cold War was irrelevant. But yeah I'm glad they found a totally new and fresh take on making this about Russia. The CIA is always the actor, and the Russians always the victim (maybe China). Nothing else happens for any reason with any motive in the world.Tajikistan. Totally a Turkic country sure.Gulen wanted his followers to get involved with politics to influence the country. Which has about zero difference with various crackpot right wing Christian leaders who have said the same (and done!) thing for years in the US.With three seconds of google, for example:https://www.usa.church/christian-voting-guide/So wait, who should I be feeling sorry for here? What's the charge?So Erdogan was previously a CIA plant or what?Friend of Gulen for years following his controversial exile, the AKP suddenly had a rift with him to stop those same "nefarious plans" made famous since 1999? What?? I love how conspiracy theorists think they're the sharp guys who can smell bullshit, but then they seem to step in the most obvious piles more than normal people.There was no war let alone "all out". There were some big left wing student protests later in the year against Erdogan that were not especially hot and heavy.What the hell does a right wing social conservative like Gulen have to do with modern socially liberal student protests. Protests that even meshed with gay pride parades at the time. The fuck?There was no fucking war in 2013 in Turkey. What's the goal. What's the script. What's the motive. What?? How is Pan-Turkism involved with Gulen, a religious leader?? What does he have to do with that? What does Erdogan have to do with that? What happened to the Central Asia plot?? What does that have to do with this?? How is it Gulen is totes CIA, and then the AKP buddy of him for years is suddenly the valiant foe of them?? What the fuck do you think happened in 2013??Tiny little thaws toward improved relations after he seriously fucked them up with that plane shooting.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...08d334b266Yeah ok.Maybe if you took your head out of your CIA/Russia focused ass, you'd see Turkey and neighboring countries with their own stories and problems and frictions. But nawwwww.I like seeing a far-left nutjob clearly forcing a smile to cover up the hyper-conservative nature of the heartland constituency Erdogan has influence with.Poor poor Bulent Ecevit. What did he ever do to anybody as PM? Who would want to kill such an innocent man? The results of his charming blemish lacking administration are clear for everyone to see. Only the CIA would want him dead.
    I wish that guy was in this forum to see this reply lol
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    Indiana doesn't have a hate law statue who knew?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/chri...t-a-hate-crime
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...evo-tournament

    and gamergate still insists that there is no sexism in gaming.

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    http://www.atlasinfo.fr/France-un-ho...es_a73644.html http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...e-Hautes-Alpes A mother and her three daughters got stabbed in France because they wore skimpy outfits, according to investigators the aggresor was 37 yeals old man and acted because of religious reason.The youngest daughter (8 years old) is between life and deathMan French people got a shitty summer

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    Oi, one of Chavez's brother died. Of salmonella. While still wielding that money and electoral power, if your health system is in shambles because lack of investment, imports and non poisoned water. I can't enjoy this karma, because if that's what happens to them, what is left for the people.
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    Sultan Erdogan doesn't even spare the Education sector, he sacked 15,000 workers.https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rkers-in-purge

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    Twitter permabans Milo Yiannopulousuos at last

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc


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    Quote Originally Posted by taboo View Post
    Twitter permabans Milo Yiannopulousuos at last

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc
    2016 FINALLY DOES A GOOD THING

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    Quote Originally Posted by taboo View Post
    Twitter permabans Milo Yiannopulousuos at lasthttps://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc
    Guy's been cultivating hate mobs for years and he got cocky enough to think he could go after an actual celebrity and get away with it. Now watch him crash a white house conference to cry about Twitter censoring him.

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    Bill Cosby has apparently gone completely blind and is "living in a personal hell."

    This is weird to me. If you go back in this thread a year, a year and a half to when the first allegations came forward of a rape charge, I defended the guy, and very strongly because he was a big part of my childhood and I didn't want to believe it, and I made a big rant in general about "why are we even bothering to talk about this, this isn't news." And I still sort of feel that way on the celebrity gossip topic in general, we do spend way too much time on complete nonsense when there's actual world shaking events going on. Who gives a shit about what Britanny Spears wears when she goes grocery shopping, or anything the Kardashians or Duck Dynasty guy have ever done.

    And then a whole lot more women came forward and there just wasn't any doubt or reason to believe him. One person might just be a money seeker crazy fan that's exaggerating something, but once you hit two or three in short order claiming the same thing, there's not much question that he's a rapist. Once you hit fifty, holy shit, put that guy in jail, don't bother with the damn trial.

    And so, a year ago my reaction would have been "Aww, that's too bad, such a shame." And now my reaction? "Aww, that's too bad, such a shame."

    SO, that's weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Bill Cosby has apparently gone completely blind and is "living in a personal hell."
    Some hard hitting Karma.
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    Who gives a shit about what Britanny Spears wears when she goes grocery shopping
    Definitely not you Robby you kind of spelled her name wrong
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    And then a whole lot more women came forward and there just wasn't any doubt or reason to believe him. One person might just be a money seeker crazy fan that's exaggerating something, but once you hit two or three in short order claiming the same thing, there's not much question that he's a rapist. Once you hit fifty, holy shit, put that guy in jail, don't bother with the damn trial.
    Though my perception of Cosby was tainted when I had heard about the earlier allegations, those later ones made it much worse.
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    And so, a year ago my reaction would have been "Aww, that's too bad, such a shame." And now my reaction? "Aww, that's too bad, such a shame." SO, that's weird.
    Well you did also doubt Trump's getting the nomination though we or rather I won't hold that or this against you.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by green_vs_red
    Ouch Robby you spelled Britney's name wrong.
    Comic book character spells it that way. I give way more shits about the comic character than Spears.

    You also casted doubt about Trump being the Republican nominee so we won't hold this against you just like that.
    That was back in like, November. Based on the assumption that his level of inflamatory remarks would scare off voters, and the idea that the Republican party would be sane or responsible enough to band together and have some other bare minimum semi-reasonable middle ground candidate to really have against him. Maybe not someone they really really believed in, but at least someone they could balance against him... or at least split the vote three or four ways so he couldn't grab it outright with a majority. Its the same thing basically all the media outlets were assuming.

    Obviously, that was vastly underestimating that 6% chunk of the population of blatant racists that when comprising voters gave him solid numbers in a 17 way race... while also overestimating the competence of the republic party, or their sense of self sacrifice or unity. They didn't have another reasonable John McCain type somewhere to pull out? I started dreading the inevitability after they still had a ton of guys on Super Tuesday. They took months too long to narrow their field to three people, didn't start unifying against Trump till he had a huge lead, and then both of the remainders gave up too soon and just handed the majority to Trump rather than having a split convention.
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    ^ Was kind of hoping that mess of a post that I couldn't edit would've disappeared. Karma isn't picky about it's victims it seems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by taboo View Post
    Twitter permabans Milo Yiannopulousuos at lasthttps://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc
    Where will he accidentally broadcast his barely contained self-loathing now?? :(

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    The question comes, will Milo actually die on this grave or grow stronger? Unfortunately, history shows the latter will happen.
    Things like this have tended to backfire tremendously so far.

    Milo can either make a new account (which people will all flock to), or Twitter will get tired of people yelling at them and unban him.
    I've seen this thing happen a million times over, this probably won't be a big deal for either side.

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    I never even heard of Milo until yesterday...

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