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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    Tons of things.
    Huh, someone who cared enough to at least try to explain all the bullshit. Putting in like that, there actually is some kind of sense in all this.

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    Jesus fucking christ just kill me now. Why are you throwing in even MORE exposition, it only ends up the same every single time. Every. Single. Time. Bad guy tells story, shock le gasp reveal, naruto says "Shut up, I'mma punch you now cause you're stupid!". There's really no reason at all at this point to delve deeper into something that's gonna pose no relevance later, at all. Kishi, at this point its like you have everyone strapped to a chair and you're turning the page of a book reeeeeeeeaallllly slowly, like an inch a week. END IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by madriano View Post
    Huh, someone who cared enough to at least try to explain all the bullshit. Putting in like that, there actually is some kind of sense in all this.
    "Some" being the key word.
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    Akatsuki was a tool, Obito was a tool, Madara was a tool, Kaguya will become a tool (probably about the time her redemption happens)

    the "villians" are just becoming fodder in order for Kishi to keep prolonging this manga (Bleach should have ended w/ Aizen, Naruto should have ended with Madara). Their motivations/personalities won't matter won't matter in X number of chapters anyways as soon as Kishi decides to change his story again

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    Hey guys! I'm still new around here but I've been dying to join the 'fun' discussing Naruto and Bleach (as I was once fan of both), so here I go

    Naruto this week was really messy. I gotta agree, Madara biting off part of Hashirama's flesh was hilarious and nasty, considering that they're supposed to fight with mostly grand-scale ninjutsus. Tobirama's reasoning to keep Madara's corpse intact was dumb. Did he not think that it would go against his favor if there happened to be some Madara-fanatics who wanted to make use of his corpse as well? Thanks to that idiocy, Madara was able to resurrect himself with some asspul-ish usage of Izanagi. Strange, I thought Izanagi had very short activation time back in Danzo's fight. Madara somehow was able to 'cheat' its limitation and even recovered the "price" of using it upon achieving Rinnegan, by the courtesy of Hashirama's cells. Oh yeah, Black Zetsu as the grandest schemer was just out of nowhere. His very existence makes Kaguya even more bland as the supposed 'final boss' because he does almost everything in her stead, including trashtalk. And the chapter ended with "Let's do that jutsu!" thing. Classic.

    Bleach? Oh boy, does it suck. So basically Kubo is telling us that Aizen wanted to sacrifice the lives Karakura residents (and some additional seasonings of evulz I can't remember) just so he could wear lousy outfit Ichigo is now wearing? And the only one wearing that special outfit is Ichigo but not Byakuya, Renji and Rukia? Maybe they didn't have enough flesh and bones to use. Makes sense. Oh, don't give me reasoning that Squad 0 let this barrier breach on purpose to make them look smarter. I'm looking at you, Kubo
    There's really no fight I'm looking forward, seeing the available team capable of dealing the remaining Quinzis had no Vizard/Visored in it. Shinji who has tactical ability from his zanpakto is now dying somewhere in the corner. And somehow, the whole objective of "Dispatching Kenpachi while he's still down" was forgotten swiftly including the very existence of Kenpachi himself. One of them could just sneakily claim Kenpachi's head while the others keep Ichigo busy, but of course they would never do that because those Quinzis are just disorganized mobs with random superpowers, who only care about glory of taking out Ichigo by their own hands.

    Couldn't decide which one was worse between to two. Just like the thread title, both of them had fair share of Aizen's "It was my plan all along" disease
    Last edited by Domingo; June 19th, 2014 at 04:07 AM.

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    When Byakuya, Rukia and Renji came, Bach was asleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS BASICALLY THE WHOLE PLOT!!! Black Zetsu is hoping one day one of them will combine their bloods and revive the Rinnengan so he can go about reviving "mother" (Kaguya).
    -Furthermore, Black Zetsu led the Uchiha clan even more astray by tricking them into believing the Infinite Tsukoyomi was the only means of salvation for their clan and possibly the world. He tricked them by writing those words on a stone which they did not question a.k.a the Uchiha are pretty stupid.
    Hm... There is a problem with this though. The Infinite Tsukoyomi requires the moon, right? But the moon was created when Kaguya was sealed. There was no moon before that. How would Black Zetsu know that the moon would play a role in the technique?

    It just seems really stupid just as well on Black Zetsu's part to even allow the Uchiha massacre, being that he was behind everything. Say for instance Madara were to fail and die with the eyes of the Rinnegan. Why allow for the Uchiha massacre to diminish greatly a chance for someone to awaken the Rinnegan?
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    Isn't is funny how, despite it being the final fight that lasted over dozens upon dozens upon dozens of pages and counting, there hasn't been much in a way of any good action choreography?

    Here's something to fill the void a bit. Just imagine that the underdog duo are Nardo and Saskay and the dominant bad guy is Madara. Obviously, spoilers for the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    Explanations
    Thanks for that summary, now I have marginally more of an idea of what's going on.

    Though if Black Zetsus ultimate goal was to unite the Uchiha and Senju genes again...why did he spend generations having them wage dumb war on each other? Seems very counter intuitive. He should've just found a young Senju girl and Uchiha boy, gotten them drunk, and locked them in a cabin.
    But who am I to judge the wisdom of genius BlobZen.

    I like how Madara was appearantly so senile that Black Zetsu tricked him into thinking Madara created him. I guess Zetsu was just hanging around Madaras cave for decades, waiting for the one exact moment where Madara grabbed a random White Zetsu in order to infuse his will into it. Good thing Blackzu (we need to get him a better name) somehow knew Madara would do that. What would have happened if his timing was slightly off though? Would grampa Madara just have stood thee awkwardly, grabbing the white zetsus shoulder to no effect? That would've been embarrasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    I'm going to try and help make some sense of this not only for your sake but mine too.



    Me neither.



    That's because most of the powers are made up on the spot and that kind of makes sense in some stupid weird way because that's how they were designed to be at this point. It's the power of creation.Notice how Naruto's Yang power would allow him to "breathe life" back into Maito Gai though he was supposed to die after using all 8 Gates, and anyone with Senju + Uchiha blood added on top of the Rinnengan could basically create life. Explaining how Madara would be able to create "dimensional clones". At least that's how I see it. Sasuke's great spiritual energy "yin" would explain his super eye powers so he can constantly spam his eye techniques which apparently includes teleportation.

    Don't ask me how Naruto was able to grow an eyeball though....



    The timeline goes crazily like this.

    Spoiler:
    -Kaguya comes from a distant land.
    -Kaguya eats the forbidden fruit and rules over the world like a tyrant.
    -Some crazy dude mates with Kaguya and they have 2 sons, Hagoromo and Hamura.
    -Kaguya becomes jealous of her 2 sons who have inherited her ability to use chakra.
    -Kaguya's will to have all the chakra combines(?) with the tree and turns into the 10 Tailed Beast which goes on a rampage trying to suck their chakra back up.
    -Her 2 sons seal the beast's energy into only 1 of them, Hagoromo (The Sage of the 6 Paths/Dude that gave Naruto and Sasuke their upgrades), and the body of the 10 Tails was sealed into a giant rock a.k.a. the moon. They also unknowingly sealed their mom (Kaguya) since she was a part of the 10 Tailed Beast.
    -Black Zetsu is mysteriously created right before Kaguya is sealed. Black Zetsu seems to be immortal because...no real reason.
    -Hagoromo's brother who helped save the world disappears from history and is never important again in the storyline so screw him.
    -Hagoromo goes on to create the teachings of Ninshuu and spreads the knowledge and use of chakra to people all around the world in hopes of uniting them.
    -Ninshuu gets turned into Ninjutsu and people continue to go to war but now they have super powers to go to war with instead of spears and swords.
    -Hagoromo also had 2 sons, Ashura and Indra, who feud over who will be the rightful successor to their father.
    -After Indra gets curb-stomped Black Zetsu manipulates Indra to continually feud with Ashura and that feud is continued down their lines. So it is Ashura's line, the Senju Clan, at constant odds with Indra's line, the Uchiha Clan.
    -Ashura and Indra are constantly reincarnated into blood relatives to continue bashing each others brains out.
    -THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS BASICALLY THE WHOLE PLOT!!! Black Zetsu is hoping one day one of them will combine their bloods and revive the Rinnengan so he can go about reviving "mother" (Kaguya).
    -Furthermore, Black Zetsu led the Uchiha clan even more astray by tricking them into believing the Infinite Tsukoyomi was the only means of salvation for their clan and possibly the world. He tricked them by writing those words on a stone which they did not question a.k.a the Uchiha are pretty stupid.
    -Naruto and Sasuke are born somewhere down the line and yada yada yada Ashura and Indra are reincarnated into Naruto and Sasuke respectively.
    -Naruto is the Destined Child to end the cycle of hatred and he will and THE END.
    Short Version: Black Zetsu has manipulated the whole Senju vs. Uchiha feud from the beginning in hopes that one day one of them will combine their blood and revive the Rinnengan, so that Black Zetsu can revive "mother" Kaguya. Naruto is the Destined Child and along with Sasuke's help will put an end to Kaguya's random villainy. The End.



    The White Zetsus are leftover people from Kaguya's first Infinite Tsukoyomi which she cast at some undetermined point.Mazou = That giant state that people with the Rinnengan can summon. Basically, Madara's army was not made up of clones but rather people captured in Infinite Tsukoyomi a long time ago and slowly deformed and turned into White Zetsus.

    As for Black Zetsu. What Madara thought...vs. How it really was.
    Black Zetsu has been all along Kaguya's will or whatever BS Kishi wants.



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    I can do you one better. I can explain the last 681 chapters for you with one simple sentence.

    "All according to plan."

    What? That still doesn't make sense? Yeah, well I've got nothing.
    Seriously, thank you for that. Explained a lot of things.

    I guess assuming Black Zetsu pulled an Aizen is not that incorrect after all.

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    anyone sort of miss the Aizen arc
    I remember a few years back when Aizen was turning into a butterfly and making the ice guy stab that Momo girl
    shit was lol

    Bleach is comparatively a lot more boring now. I liked Aizen for the sole fact that he always made things entertaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec
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    Yeah, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    I like how Madara was appearantly so senile that Black Zetsu tricked him into thinking Madara created him. I guess Zetsu was just hanging around Madaras cave for decades, waiting for the one exact moment where Madara grabbed a random White Zetsu in order to infuse his will into it. Good thing Blackzu (we need to get him a better name) somehow knew Madara would do that. What would have happened if his timing was slightly off though? Would grampa Madara just have stood thee awkwardly, grabbing the white zetsus shoulder to no effect? That would've been embarrasing.
    I guess this is very simple. It probably was like this:

    Blackzu: Hi!
    Madara: So you're...
    Blackzu: Yeah, I'm your will. Created by you just like it was written on the almighty stone tablet. Everything according to my plan.
    Madara: You mean according to MY plan.
    Blackzu: Oh yeah, sure!

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    I really want "That Justsu" to be the Shadow Shuriken jutsu from the Zabuza arc.... but it'll probably be the Talking no Jutsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.french View Post
    Hm... There is a problem with this though. The Infinite Tsukoyomi requires the moon, right? But the moon was created when Kaguya was sealed. There was no moon before that. How would Black Zetsu know that the moon would play a role in the technique?
    Because he's like Aizen.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.french View Post
    It just seems really stupid just as well on Black Zetsu's part to even allow the Uchiha massacre, being that he was behind everything. Say for instance Madara were to fail and die with the eyes of the Rinnegan. Why allow for the Uchiha massacre to diminish greatly a chance for someone to awaken the Rinnegan?
    Because he is like poor man's Aizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucephalus View Post
    anyone sort of miss the Aizen arc
    I remember a few years back when Aizen was turning into a butterfly and making the ice guy stab that Momo girl
    shit was lol

    Bleach is comparatively a lot more boring now. I liked Aizen for the sole fact that he always made things entertaining
    There exists a trend of missing Aizen in here.

    I gotta say, few times I've been as infuriated with a manga character as with Aizen during the stupidfest that was Deicide and beyond. Holy crap. You just CAN'T write a character so incompetently. So I shouldn't miss him. . .

    Except that everything now is SO mindnumbingly boring, stale and apathetic, specially ywchwyuchuwhcbach. It's like he's not even there. Like, part of the background.

    So, yeah, maybe some Aizen shenanigans (I planned to be defeated by Ichigo, then sealed in a SM fetish suit for 40k years, only to be freed again during a war with the Quincies since the day you were born!) could turn this into the kind of memorably bad we know Kubo is capable of. . .

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    Fullbringer arc sure was funnnnnnnnnnnn

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    What if yuhabach got jumped when he went to see Aizen last year and the Jesus man we see now is actually just Aizen doing his genjutsu bullshit, it explains his sudden motivation shift to go to soul king palace , and most importantly Kubo would do this.
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    Speaking of, I'm watching the Fullbringer arc on Toonami now (God help me), and you know what? The first few episodes/chapters really aren't TOO bad. In a way, it was kind of like a back-to-basics with more focus on Ichigo and his Karakura buddies and some comedic/character moments (though yeah, still not nearly as good as the early chapters). And, of course, with the anime you don't get Kubo's awful art and pacing.

    But they just got to the episode where Riruka puts Ichigo in the dollhouse and, yeah, wow, that's where things REALLY start to fall apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kouch_lee View Post
    There exists a trend of missing Aizen in here.

    I gotta say, few times I've been as infuriated with a manga character as with Aizen during the stupidfest that was Deicide and beyond. Holy crap. You just CAN'T write a character so incompetently. So I shouldn't miss him. . .

    Except that everything now is SO mindnumbingly boring, stale and apathetic, specially ywchwyuchuwhcbach. It's like he's not even there. Like, part of the background.

    So, yeah, maybe some Aizen shenanigans (I planned to be defeated by Ichigo, then sealed in a SM fetish suit for 40k years, only to be freed again during a war with the Quincies since the day you were born!) could turn this into the kind of memorably bad we know Kubo is capable of. . .
    Ah man, I remember so furious during the deicide arc.

    I've been unbelievably successful for x years by using my complete hypnosis....now that my final opponent is here, let's forget all about that and become a booooterfly.

    Goddamnit, Sosuke.

    Tbh I'd forgive Kubo a lot if we get Aizen running around, Zanpakutoless and just level 90 kido-ing the shit out of everything.
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    Sosuke Aizen: Master Tactician whose life dream was to become beeyooteeeful like a butterfly

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