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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    22. Hattori vs. Monet
    You know what.
    I'm not even surprised.

    At first, I was expecting Luffy or someone of that caliber to face Hattori, but then I figured, no. That would lack the certain ounce of cruelty, that little something to make it especially mean.
    And since the only bird related character popular enough to foil Hattori is Monet ... well, rule of probability dictated that he would face her, 100 % certainty.

    Though I am surprised Hattori's match isn't #1. That was the second thing I was dead certain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nia View Post
    You know what.
    I'm not even surprised.

    At first, I was expecting Luffy or someone of that caliber to face Hattori, but then I figured, no. That would lack the certain ounce of cruelty, that little something to make it especially mean.
    And since the only bird related character popular enough to foil Hattori is Monet ... well, rule of probability dictated that he would face her, 100 % certainty.

    Though I am surprised Hattori's match isn't #1. That was the second thing I was dead certain about.
    They want to wear everyone out first so Monet can have a bigger chance of winning :O

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    I gotta work even harder this time around.
    Darn it.
    In the words of the eternal Ty Pennington:
    LET'S DO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

    Spoiler:

    01. Teach vs. Iceburg & Tyrannosaurus
    02. Bellamy vs. Borsalino
    03. Eustass Kid vs. Perona - I'll likely let campaigns sway me... or just Kidd. Idk.
    04. Shanks vs. Apoo - I gotta go nuts for this y'all.
    05. Nico Robin vs. Bartolomeo - campaigns again.
    06. Arlong vs. Kuzan - Campaigns also
    07. Wiper vs. Bartolomew Kuma
    08. Donquixote DoFlamingo vs. Trafalgar Law - This gon' get messyyyyyy
    09. Brownbeard vs. Fujitora - Campaigns.
    10. Nami vs. Bon Kurei
    11. Bellemere vs. Mr. 3 - ...whyyyyy.
    12. Vergo vs. Crocus - oh the humanity
    13. Silvers Rayleigh vs. Norland
    14. Zeff vs. Laboon - [/wails]
    15. Whitebeard vs. Ivankov - [/crying in the distance]
    16. X. Drake vs. Hancock
    17. Sanji vs. Chopper - can't we just send Chopepr in Sanji's body through?
    18. Hannyabal vs. Brook - UGHUHWAKWUHRKWUR
    19. Luffy vs. Jinbe - Luffy vs Blue. WHY.
    20. Fisher Tiger vs. Smiley - Campaigns
    21. Franky vs. Usopp - wHY.
    22. Hattori vs. Monet - Goodnes gracious great balls of fire.
    23. Ace vs. Akainu - This could be gut wrenchingly heart melting.
    24. Dr. Hiriluk vs. Our Lord and Savior, Buggy the Clown - FU-
    25. Gekko Moriah vs. Kaku - [/uncomprehensible mumbling]
    26. Kinemon vs Magellan
    27. Crocodile vs. Smoker - ABLOOBLOOBLOO
    28. Zoro vs. Tom
    29. Ener vs. Cavendish - AAAAAAABLOOBLOOBLOOOO
    30. Garp vs. Dr. Kureha
    31. Shakky vs. Caesar Clown - Campaigns...
    32. Bepo vs. Gatz - [/cries forever and ever oh love] I can't betray the Heart Pirates... sorry Gatz.


    The First Round will begin when the First Round begins.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachri;2974828
    08. Donquixote DoFlamingo vs. [B
    Trafalgar Law [/B]- This gon' get messyyyyyy
    You and you're boy are going down !
    Last edited by No Maam; August 3rd, 2013 at 01:15 PM.

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    Speaking about statistics and numbers, I did a complete ratinglist based on all tournaments from 2009 so far(didnīt find anything about 2005 and 2006). On the picture you can see the top 20 after 2009,2010,2011,2012 and the current ratinglist after the prelims.
    Spoiler:


    I used the elo formula with 500 instead of 400 as constant and the numbers of votes in the match divided by 2 as K-factor. Also tried other different things for the K-factor, like a constant number or votes divided by voters multiplied by a constant, lol... but using the number of votes seems to produce the least error. Note that number of votes is not the same as number of voters and that Characters(some of them as teams) which have very few matches are most likely less accurate rated or such which are seeded.

    How to interpret the list: Difference of 50 = 55.73%, 100 = 61.31%, 200 = 71.53%, 300 = 79.92%, 400 = 86.32%, 500 = 90.91% expected score and so on or simple: expected score of charA = 1 / (1 + 10^((ratingB - ratingA)/500)). If you like the idea or have suggestions feel free to share your thoughts, the goal is to make an accurate ratinglist for characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Maam View Post
    You and you're boy are going down !
    You mean that YOU'RE going down and YOUR boy(s).
    Not me. You. Du. Tu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaizoku_Chopper View Post
    Than you for the fix, it's appreciated! This is so awesome I may make it my desktop wallpaper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor π View Post
    Speaking about statistics and numbers, I did a complete ratinglist based on all tournaments from 2009 so far(didnīt find anything about 2005 and 2006). On the picture you can see the top 20 after 2009,2010,2011,2012 and the current ratinglist after the prelims.

    I used the elo formula with 500 instead of 400 as constant and the numbers of votes in the match divided by 2 as K-factor. Also tried other different things for the K-factor, like a constant number or votes divided by voters multiplied by a constant, lol... but using the number of votes seems to produce the least error. Note that number of votes is not the same as number of voters and that Characters(some of them as teams) which have very few matches are most likely less accurate rated or such which are seeded.

    How to interpret the list: Difference of 50 = 55.73%, 100 = 61.31%, 200 = 71.53%, 300 = 79.92%, 400 = 86.32%, 500 = 90.91% expected score and so on or simple: expected score of charA = 1 / (1 + 10^((ratingB - ratingA)/500)). If you like the idea or have suggestions feel free to share your thoughts, the goal is to make an accurate ratinglist for characters.
    This is also awesome even if it hurts my brain a little. Thank you! I guess it's looking good for Croco-boy...
    moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor π View Post
    Speaking about statistics and numbers, I did a complete ratinglist based on all tournaments from 2009 so far(didnīt find anything about 2005 and 2006).
    The pre-2009 Tournaments were on such a different scale that including them would be pointless; they received at most a quarter the votes of our lowest turnout in the Prelims.
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    The pre-2009 Tournaments were on such a different scale that including them would be pointless; they received at most a quarter the votes of our lowest turnout in the Prelims.
    I'd still be interested in seeing that for myself. Is it archived ?

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    When I saw the list, I wanted to faint. picks are in bold.
    01. Teach vs. Iceburg & Tyrannosaurus
    BB's alright and all, but I do like Iceburg a lot.
    02. Bellamy vs. Borsalino
    Why not? Let his redemption carry over.
    03. Eustass Kid vs. Perona
    Like both, so it's up to campaigns.
    04. Shanks vs. Apoo
    Leading towards Shanks, but I'm undecided for now.
    05. Nico Robin vs. Bartolomeo
    Barty's hiliarous, but I can't NOT vote for Robin!
    06. Arlong vs. Kuzan
    Uh.....pass.
    07. Wiper vs. Bartolomew Kuma
    NateRich has been working really hard for his campaigns.
    08. Donquixote DoFlamingo vs. Trafalgar Law
    ...Hear that? It's the fandom exploding into zillions of pieces.
    09. Brownbeard vs. Fujitora
    Tough!
    10. Nami vs. Bon Kurei
    You evil evil EVIL mods. Making me suffer on the first round?! This will be really tough, but Nami must win. :(
    11. Bellemere vs. Mr. 3
    Looks like I've got back-to-back campaigning to do.
    12. Vergo vs. Crocus
    I.....have no idea.
    13. Silvers Rayleigh vs. Norland
    easiest vote yet
    14. Zeff vs. Laboon
    Laboon all the way.
    15. Whitebeard vs. Ivankov
    Sorry Iva but c'mon
    16. X. Drake vs. Hancock
    no no THIS is the easiest vote so far
    17. Sanji vs. Chopper
    Mm....not sure.
    18. Hannyabal vs. Brook
    just pass.
    19. Luffy vs. Jinbe
    Voting AGAINST Luffy??? Life isn't fair.
    20. Fisher Tiger vs. Smiley
    Let's do this.
    21. Franky vs. Usopp
    Yeesh....this required some thought.
    22. Hattori vs. Monet
    Nia-sama I hope you're ready!
    23. Ace vs. Akainu
    The fandom exploded again, lmao. I'm undecided.
    24. Dr. Hiriluk vs. Our Lord and Savior, Buggy the Clown
    How can I vote against Buggy....or Hiriluk?! :O
    25. Gekko Moriah vs. Kaku
    Yawn....next.
    26. Kinemon vs Magellan
    Ouch. Vice-Warden it is.
    27. Crocodile vs. Smoker
    Ohohoho this will be intense!
    28. Zoro vs. Tom
    Poor Tom will get sweeped but..,
    29. Ener vs. Cavendish
    *faints*
    30. Garp vs. Dr. Kureha
    Old vs. old! Sway me, campaigns!
    31. Shakky vs. Caesar Clown
    Shulolololo~
    32. Bepo vs. Gatz
    Imo, the bear is horribly overrated.
    Last edited by MetaMario; August 3rd, 2013 at 03:24 PM. Reason: if you'll excuse me, i must scream into a pillow as the reality of Nami vs. Bon settles in





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    I am maybe not here for all the matches (probably away the week after the next one), but here are the characters I at least would vote:

    Spoiler:
    01. Teach vs. Iceburg & Tyrannosaurus - Eh, Blackbeard will have time to shine later on.
    02. Bellamy vs. Borsalino - I just love him since he reappeared.
    03. Eustass Kid vs. Perona - I just like Kid more.
    04. Shanks vs. Apoo - Apoo feels like a more original character.
    05. Nico Robin vs. Bartolomeo - I'm not really rooting for any Strawhats and Bartolomeo is pretty awesome.
    06. Arlong vs. Kuzan - I like both, but Arlong so far a bit more.
    07. Wiper vs. Bartolomew Kuma - The badass of Skypia of course.
    08. Donquixote DoFlamingo vs. Trafalgar Law - Doflamingo is just more interesting.
    09. Brownbeard vs. Fujitora - Fujitora shall fall! All hail the Fresh Boss of Punk Hazard!
    10. Nami vs. Bon Kurei - Bon didn't win last year for nothing.
    11. Bellemere vs. Mr. 3 - Another character that got a nice redemption.
    12. Vergo vs. Crocus - I don't know, lol.
    13. Silvers Rayleigh vs. Norland - Such. An. Awesome. Flashback.
    14. Zeff vs. Laboon - Who wouldn't like that cute, little whale
    15. Whitebeard vs. Ivankov - Badass gramps are just great.
    16. X. Drake vs. Hancock - I really don't like Hancock.
    17. Sanji vs. Chopper - Eh, Sanji's getting too much hate anyways.
    18. Hannyabal vs. Brook - Because Brook is one of the only Strawhats I'd want to advance and Hannyabal is also great, I'm undecided.
    19. Luffy vs. Jinbe - The protagonist winning is kinda boring imho.
    20. Fisher Tiger vs. Smiley - I loved the Fishman Island flashback.
    21. Franky vs. Usopp - SUUUUPER!
    22. Hattori vs. Monet - The most established animal character gets my vote, Monet was kind of meh tbh.
    23. Ace vs. Akainu - Great match-up. :P
    24. Dr. Hiriluk vs. Our Lord and Savior, Buggy the Clown - Another great flashback character.
    25. Gekko Moriah vs. Kaku - *insert panel of laughing Moriah here*
    26. Kinemon vs Magellan - Kinemon still has time to shine, and he is hilarious.
    27. Crocodile vs. Smoker - I dunno.
    28. Zoro vs. Tom - Voting with a DON here!
    29. Ener vs. Cavendish - I like you, Cavendish...but have you seen Skypia?
    30. Garp vs. Dr. Kureha - Well...
    31. Shakky vs. Caesar Clown - If Caesar can't even make it to the Second Round, I'll be deeply saddened.
    32. Bepo vs. Gatz - GATZ! GATZ! GATZ!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Print Error
    This is also awesome even if it hurts my brain a little. Thank you! I guess it's looking good for Croco-boy...
    Yeah, Crocodile has performed pretty good the last years, it wouldnīt surprise me if he actually wins... although I think Zoro will win, because last year not a single SH made it to the finals and they should get a boost. Also characters like Luffy, Usopp, Robin and Franky are underrated because they were seeded and missed the little extra points from the prelims. I expect Whitebeard and Hiluluk to go down the list a bit, they are overrated at moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq
    The pre-2009 Tournaments were on such a different scale that including them would be pointless; they received at most a quarter the votes of our lowest turnout in the Prelims.
    Thatīs the problem with the votebased list, but i could also use other good alternatives for the K-factor and then it would work. Just need the number of voters and the votes they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor π View Post
    Speaking about statistics and numbers, I did a complete ratinglist based on all tournaments from 2009 so far(didnīt find anything about 2005 and 2006). On the picture you can see the top 20 after 2009,2010,2011,2012 and the current ratinglist after the prelims.

    I used the elo formula with 500 instead of 400 as constant and the numbers of votes in the match divided by 2 as K-factor. Also tried other different things for the K-factor, like a constant number or votes divided by voters multiplied by a constant, lol... but using the number of votes seems to produce the least error. Note that number of votes is not the same as number of voters and that Characters(some of them as teams) which have very few matches are most likely less accurate rated or such which are seeded.

    How to interpret the list: Difference of 50 = 55.73%, 100 = 61.31%, 200 = 71.53%, 300 = 79.92%, 400 = 86.32%, 500 = 90.91% expected score and so on or simple: expected score of charA = 1 / (1 + 10^((ratingB - ratingA)/500)). If you like the idea or have suggestions feel free to share your thoughts, the goal is to make an accurate ratinglist for characters.
    This just proves how amazingly evil Smoker vs. Croc is!
    Though i don't really get it all :D


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceies View Post
    This just proves how amazingly evil Smoker vs. Croc is!
    Though i don't really get it all :D
    The list predicts that Crocodile will win with 61.23% of the votes, but I donīt really think that it will be by that much.

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    01. Teach vs. Iceburg & Tyrannosaurus - can't vote against my favorite villain
    02. Bellamy vs. Borsalino - I'm really not sure, but I guess Binami. Campaigns.
    03. Eustass Kid vs. Perona - my favorite ghost girl vs ginger magneto? 3ez
    04. Shanks vs. Apoo - maybe Apoo if someone comes up with some TRUMPET campaigns, but if not, Shanks.
    05. Nico Robin vs. Bartolomeo - I like Bart, but c'mon. It's time for the first double crown.
    06. Arlong vs. Kuzan - blaaaaaaah. I'll vote Arlong if its looking like a blowout.
    07. Wiper vs. Bartolomew - in honor of my late puppy with the same name.
    08. Donquixote DoFlamingo vs. Trafalgar Law - Because there's just too much hype surrounding Dofla.
    09. Brownbeard vs. Fujitora - best side character in a while.
    10. Nami vs. Bon Kurei - just this once.
    11. Bellemere vs. Mr. 3 - T-T
    12. Vergo vs. Crocus - I'll sell my vote here fore a vote for... Idk I'll think of it later.
    13. Silvers Rayleigh vs. Norland - rayleigh's making it to the finals this time.
    14. Zeff vs. Laboon - LABOOOOOON
    15. Whitebeard vs. Ivankov - Iwa is still cool though
    16. X. Drake vs. Hancock - willing to trade votes here as well.
    17. Sanji vs. Chopper - I don't like Sanji.
    18. Hannyabal vs. Brook - Hanny is great, but I really want Brook to do well this year.
    19. Luffy vs. Jinbe - I'm torn. I guess it's up to campaigns.
    20. Fisher Tiger vs. Smiley - I appreciate everything the Smiley camp has done for Laboon, but it's Fisher Tiger the second best fish man! T-T
    21. Franky vs. Usopp - Campaigns.
    22. Hattori vs. Monet - Hattori easy.
    23. Ace vs. Akainu - Magma fist is best fist.
    24. Dr. Hiriluk vs. Our Lord and Savior, Buggy the Clown - Quack
    25. Gekko Moriah vs. Kaku - no hope for Kaku once again :(
    26. Kinemon vs Magellan - easy peasy
    27. Crocodile vs. Smoker - toughie. Might still be swayed to Smoker with great campaigns.
    28. Zoro vs. Tom - Im sure I'll have plenty more chances to vote for Zoro this year.
    29. Ener vs. Cavendish - Wasn't expecting to vote for Cavendish this year :x
    30. Garp vs. Dr. Kureha - Sway me, campaigners!
    31. Shakky vs. Caesar Clown - I love Caesar.
    32. Bepo vs. Gatz - don't care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    If anyone is interested, the preliminary top performers based on %:

    Kuzan - 70,88 %
    Of course preliminaries are what they are, but I expect a lot from Kuzan this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Maam View Post
    I'd still be interested in seeing that for myself. Is it archived ?
    The 2005/2006 Tournament is still in the General Forum; I think the 2004/2005 Tournament is lost into the Mists of Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seņor π View Post
    Thatīs the problem with the votebased list, but i could also use other good alternatives for the K-factor and then it would work. Just need the number of voters and the votes they got.
    Looking back, it's more like half the votes for the later Tournament after the First Round for 2005/2006.

    Anyway, I'ma workin' on it.

    Spoiler:

    Finals

    Franky 77 51.82
    Nami 66 48.18

    Semi-Finals

    Nami 58 50.88
    Chopper 56 49.12

    Franky 78 61.42
    Bon Kurei 49 38.58

    Quarter Finals

    Franky 74 50.34
    Sanji 73 49.66

    Ugh; a coin flip match.

    Nami 90 71.43
    Tom 36 28.57

    Chopper 80 67.23
    Ace 39 32.77

    Bon Kurei 78 68.42
    Crocodile 36 31.58

    Round 3
    Tom
    Pell

    Franky 90 73.17
    Aokiji 33 26.83

    Nami 63 56.25
    Robin 49 43.75

    Ace
    Arlong

    Sanji 80 74.77
    Smoker 27 25.23

    Crocodile 64 62.14
    Hattori 39 37.86

    Bon Kurei 75 75.76
    Spandam 24 24.24

    Chopper 70 68.63
    Shanks 32 31.37

    Round 2

    Ace
    Buggy

    Aokiji
    Whitebeard

    Nami 79 80.61
    Mr. 5 19 19.39

    Franky 70 51.09
    Luffy 67 48.91

    Crocodile 64 57.66
    Tashigi 47 42.34

    Bon Kurei 98 85.96
    Igaram 16 14.04

    Sanji 84 71.19
    Django 28.81

    Chopper 78 79.59
    Mr. 1 20 20.41

    Pell
    Kuro

    Shanks
    Mihawk

    Smoker
    Paulie

    Tom
    Vivi

    Spandam
    Johnny

    Arlong
    Mohji

    Hattori
    Foxy

    Robin 86 70.49
    Ener 36 29.51


    Round 1

    Ace
    Gin

    Johnny
    Hatchi

    Mr. 5
    Kuma

    Nami 66 77.65
    Mr. 9 19 22.35

    Paulie
    Ohm

    Crocodile 56 82.35
    Kuroobi 12 17.65

    Whitebeard
    Kaku

    Mr. 1
    Alvida

    Tashigi
    Gedatsu

    Robin 59 86.76
    Bellamy 9 13.24

    Aokiji
    Rob Lucci

    Arlong
    Blueno

    Mihawk
    Lulu

    Foxy
    T-Bone

    Luffy
    Mr. 3

    Chopper 58 80.56
    Carue 14 19.44

    Shanks
    Kokoro

    Igaram
    Wanze

    Ener 42 51.22
    Ms. Goldenweek 40 48.78

    Sanji 61 50.83
    Zoro 59 49.17

    Smoker
    Konis

    Bon Kurei 56 76.32
    Cobra 18 23.68

    Pell
    Wiper

    Spandam
    Masira

    Tom
    Tilestone

    Hattori
    Ms. Valentine's Day

    Vivi
    Zeff

    Kuro
    Kalifa

    Mohji
    Sarquiss

    Django
    Pandaman

    Franky 96 90.57
    Porche 10 9.43
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    I wonder how many pictures of giraffes I can post in rapid sucession before I get chastized.
    Must find a way for Kaku to emerge victorious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden_Giraffe View Post
    I wonder how many pictures of giraffes I can post in rapid sucession before I get chastized.
    Must find a way for Kaku to emerge victorious.
    The only way is to travel back in time, and post Kaku's surprised giraff face.

    You had a head start of a year! you have no one to blame other than yourself!

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Even more, the Moriah Face in question is from the war. FOUR years?!?!!!?! What were you doing in that time? posting coherent and toughtfull posts? Thinking on how everything Oda did was preordained? Helping out in the madness of the Naruto thread?

    Only if you substitute every and each of those actions with Kaku Face you could only hope to beging to bring down Master Moriah


    Spoiler:
    Look later here for a moriah face.

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    Spoiler:

    01. Teach
    02. BELLAMY (I liked him before he was cool (Ž_Ž))
    03. Perona
    04. Apoo
    05. Bartolomeo
    06. Kuzan
    07. Bartolomew Kuma
    08. Trafalgar Law
    09. Fujitora
    10. Bon Kurei
    11. Mr. 3
    12. Crocus
    13. Norland
    14. Laboon
    15. Ivankov
    16. X. Drake
    17. Chopper
    18. Hannyabal
    19. Luffy
    20. Smiley
    21. Franky
    22. Hattori vs. Monet (well shit)
    23. Ace
    24. Our Lord and Savior, Buggy the Clown
    25. GEKKO MORIAH
    26. Kinemon y
    27. Crocodile
    28. ZORO
    29. Ener
    30. Garp
    31. Caesar Clown
    32. Bepo


    I might Change my mind on some of these depending on campaigns
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