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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    Yeah, that's TOO big. Either that's a bunch of low fog/mist covering the ground, or he's literally standing above the earth's clouds, which means his head would be sticking way up into the stratosphere.
    Without assuming something that outragous,he still comes off as a mountain on that poster.In relation to the helicopters,it looks like one of them could land between it's tail spines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Without assuming something that outragous,he still comes off as a mountain on that poster.In relation to the helicopters,it looks like one of them could land between it's tail spines.
    Reminds me of Asura's Wrath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    Yeah, that's TOO big. Either that's a bunch of low fog/mist covering the ground, or he's literally standing above the earth's clouds, which means his head would be sticking way up into the stratosphere.

    I want Godzilla, not an Asura's Wrath reject.
    Look at bright side if end up's as being "sissy" as the 98 he would still do a huge load of destruction.

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    I'm sure it's just an exaggeration,as demonstrated by a comparison to posters of the older Godzilla films.In some of them,G is dwarfing entire Tokyo,yet he is obviously much smaller in the actual movies.

    Even Zilla 98 did this with it's foot poster.

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    It's probably fog on water.

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    Reminds me of Asura's Wrath.
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    Seriously guys, chill out. It's just a movie poster. I'm sure they took some artistic license to make Godzilla look "big". And I didn't really of the fog (or whatever) as clouds. Just another thing that was there for effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley View Post
    Now THAT is what I think of when I think "Godzilla movie" poster!
    It reminds me of the old classic Godzilla movie posters, not the dinky lizard from the '98. And yeah, his size in the movie isn't as big as is on the poster. But still Godzilla was HUGE, bigger than what the '98 version monster.
    I've always pictured him bigger than skyscrapers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    No way is he going to be literally that big,right?

    Obvious creative license.He'd be a friggin' walking mountain at that size.
    Don't worry, he's not going to be THAT big. Those are merely toy helicopters that are hovering around Godzilla in a Steam room. Godzilla actually about 5'10'' in that pic.

    Maybe I'm thinking too hard, but the poster is confusing me in terms of perspective and scale. I am going to assume Godzilla is standing in water (because if it's actual land, then that would be even more confusing). I'm also assuming his feet and legs are partially submerged which means his tail is floating slightly (or raised on its own *shrug) for this to work in terms of scale. But that can't work since we see the slope upwards in the right side of the poster. So um...yeah I'm thinking about this too hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    From what I hear at places like Toho Kingdom,Godzilla will fight two other monsters,but they will be LP originals.
    You see, that's what concerns me. That LP is opting to create their own 'original monsters' instead of licensing one from Toho. I'm afraid that at best, we'll get a Cloverfield or Pacific Rim knock-off, and at worst, a SciFi channel reject.

    LP already licensed Godzilla himself to make the film, is it really that much trouble or expense to license one additional creature from the Toho roster?

    If I had my pick as director, I'd go with Gigan hands-down. After all, he's infamous among Godzilla fans for having the honor of being the first monster to make Godzilla visibly bleed. (by stabbing him in the head with his blade hands no less)


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    Whatever monsters are there in the first movie,will probably be just Godzilla fodder.They'll be slightly intimidating for a bit and then Godzilla is gonna tear them to shreds to establish it's superiority and it's status as the "king".

    I have no problem with them avoiding extra expenses for such minor monsters.They'd have to get lesser monsters for the role in the first place.I think they'd rather reserve big guns like King Ghidorah for the potential sequels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    It's probably fog on water.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    LP already licensed Godzilla himself to make the film, is it really that much trouble or expense to license one additional creature from the Toho roster?
    Toho might be reluctant to license monsters in general until they see how Legendary handles the property; they got burned once before by an American studio.
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    It makes you wonder what certain monsters would look like with today's technology and techniques.

    Biollante would be amazing to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Whatever monsters are there in the first movie,will probably be just Godzilla fodder.They'll be slightly intimidating for a bit and then Godzilla is gonna tear them to shreds to establish it's superiority and it's status as the "king".

    I have no problem with them avoiding extra expenses for such minor monsters.They'd have to get lesser monsters for the role in the first place.I think they'd rather reserve big guns like King Ghidorah for the potential sequels.
    And you don't think that that's such a huge waste of potential?

    Did Batman Begins, the first Batman film to re-launch the franchise from movie death since the 1997 failure, use only "Batman Fodder"?

    Did the Spiderman films use only "Spiderman Fodder"?

    Marvel, DC, and Godzilla franchises all have one thing thing in common: They have an established Rogues' Gallery.

    Batman Begins didn't start off with the Joker, the directors made use of lesser known villians to the public eye like Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghul, who hadn't been on screen before. The Amazing Spider-Man used the Lizard instead of the Green Goblin or Venom.

    My Point is, a Rogues' Gallery is there for a reason. It's to be used. That's why the roster is there in the first place.

    I understand not wanting to use Godzilla's most powerful and most dangerous enemies in his first film, his 'principal' rogues' gallery so to speak. (King Ghidorah/Mecha-King Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla, Gigan, Destoroyah, Mothra, Battra, SpaceGodzilla, and Megalon); but that doesn't neccessarily mean to fall back on "bland fodder monsters".

    Because Fodder Monsters aren't memorable. At All.

    3 years from now, will you remember any of the monsters from Pacific-Rim? Probably not. But 3 years from now you'll still remember who The Riddler is. Because he's a memorable villian. That's why a character's Rogues' Gallery can last for so long and be so well ingrained in pop culture. Because they are memorable, unique, and leave a lasting impression long after you've left the theater or finished the book. Another case-in-point: Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber. One of the most memorable film villains in cinema.

    Every Rogues' Gallery has their top-tier, middle-tier, and low-tier villains. (Two-Face > The Ventriloquist > Condiment King). So instead of using the big-hitters, why not instead make use of Godzilla's lesser-known enemies?

    enimies like Hedorah, Orga, Biollante, Moguera, Baragon, Megaguirus, etc.

    This 2014 film will be Godzilla's first chance on the American big screen since the 1998 flop. This is his second debut chance. A second box-office disaster would kill the franchise for another 10 years. So No, there's no excuse for Fodder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    3 years from now, will you remember any of the monsters from Pacific-Rim?
    Hell yes, I will.

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    im a little skeptical about this after the 1999 version..at least this godzilla looks a little bit closer to his older style than the modern style
    wonder if any of the other monsters will show up in the film? ( I would Like to see at least something like Mothra or Ghidorah back)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    And you don't think that that's such a huge waste of potential?

    Did Batman Begins, the first Batman film to re-launch the franchise from movie death since the 1997 failure, use only "Batman Fodder"?

    Did the Spiderman films use only "Spiderman Fodder"?
    As far as I understand,the difference here is that all those Batman and Spiderman villains came as a part of their respective franchise licenses.I don't think LP had to buy another expensive license just to get Scarecrow in,nor am I sure that they would consider doing so if that had been the case.

    Plus,there's the possible factor Ubiq mentioned.

    Put together,these two factors would make it to much of a hassle to get low-tier members of the Rogue's Gallery as you put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaizokuFan22 View Post
    wonder if any of the other monsters will show up in the film? ( I would Like to see at least something like Mothra or Ghidorah back)
    According to those who went to the 2012 Comic-Con, Legendary posted a teaser trailer that included Godzilla and a "gigantic centipede-like monster". Although there's no way to know right now if that "Centipede-like monster" would make the final film cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Put together,these two factors would make it to much of a hassle to get low-tier members of the Rogue's Gallery as you put it.
    I hear ya, I'm just really really hoping that the film doesn't blow ala The Lone Ranger, because as Ubiq said, the Japanese licensor (Toho) have already been badly burned once before by an American studio with the '98 failure, so if this reboot goes south, then image how severely difficult it would be to regain trust and licensing rights for another American Gozilla film.

    Keeping my fingers crossed for this one.
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    If Legendary screws up or the film bombs despite being good, the most likely result would be Toho plunging forward with a new film to salvage Big G's reputation.

    That's what happened last time anyway.
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