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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    About the possibility for a sequel to this game...

    If they do decide to pursue a sequel to The Last of Us, to name the sequel title anything other than The Last of Them would be a real fucking travesty.

    The Last of Us as the original game then The Last of Them as the sequel game.

    a simple, smooth, and natural transition that flows nicely on the tongue.

    Kinda like Arkham Asylum transitioned to Arkham City.
    Knowing Naughty Dog, they're just gonna name it The Last of Us 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiciteKefka View Post
    Knowing Naughty Dog, they're just gonna name it The Last of Us 2.
    The Last of Us 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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    Been cruising through a Survivor run, which is refining what parts of the game I like and what parts I think suck.

    General theory: big sequences with lots of Infected are terrible, especially on Survivor. Many, but not all, of the sections with human opponents are pretty clever and fun to approach in different ways.

    The terrible partner AI--and it is terrible--has gotten me in deep shit on a few occasions already (primarily by running over and covering right next to me, ruining the grab animation), and the aggro range is laughably huge on Runners. Also, this may not be covered in the game, but are these fungus-people supposed to have a hive-mind, too? Because otherwise, it makes no sense for them all to come running every time I accidentally press the run button on one corner of the map.

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    Ok, I have a couple questions for you Last of Us fans out there. First off, does controlling Joel feel normal? Every time I see gameplay footage, Joel's body seems to be leaning to the left or right, even when he's walking in a straight line. Here's a video to show what I'm talking about, in case this doesn't make sense.

    You can see it in the first few seconds of gameplay.

    Secondly, did anyone read the leaked spoiler about...
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    Ellie getting infected early on in the game? I read somewhere (can't remember where) about a month ago, and shrugged it off as a rumour. That is, until I saw a playthough of the first hour and a half. Needless to say, it turned out be completely accurate. This seems to keep happening for some reason. People who aren't professional critics are getting their hands on games before they even come out. It happened with Aliens: Colonial Marines, Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite and now The Last of Us.

    If you choose to answer, please don't spoil anything else. I'd really appreciate it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rogues' Gallery View Post
    If they do decide to pursue a sequel to The Last of Us, to name the sequel title anything other than The Last of Them would be a real fucking travesty.
    I expect they'll call the sequels "The Last II" and "The Last III". Part 4 will be a kart racing game.
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    As for the first question, Joel controls fine. Sometimes the game changes up the maximum speed you can move him or has him injured or something else changes his gait, like you see in that video, but for the most part, it feels fairly natural in the third-person shooter vein.

    As for the second point,
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    it's annoying that that's out there, but it's revealed very early in the game and really isn't a major plot-twist. For the most part, there's not a ton out there that will really spoil the game unless you find out the ending ahead of time.

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    Alright, cool. Thanks.

    It shouldn't really matter how early or late that plot point is in the game. Naughty Dog needed to keep that shit under lock and key if the game wasn't gonna be released for another month. (This is starting to remind me of that OTHER zombie series that keeps leaking spoilers) And I'm pretty sure I don't know the ending. I mean, some tool on Gametrailers spoiled the three major twists in Bioshock Infinite the day before it came out, and that still wasn't enough for me figure out everything that was going on there.

    On an unrelated note, I see your username contains the word "Moog". That instantly grants you cool points in my book.
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    How scaring and boring does this game get sometimes? On scale 1 to 10 10 being extremely scaring and 10 being very boring at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DARK_RITUAL View Post
    How scaring and boring does this game get sometimes? On scale 1 to 10 10 being extremely scaring and 10 being very boring at times.


    .....What? I can tell you it doesnt get boring at all if that answers your question.

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    How scaring and boring does this game get sometimes? On scale 1 to 10 10 being extremely scaring and 10 being very boring at times.
    It has really intense moments, but in a really good way. Like the parts where the action isn't happening you feel relieved so you don't get bored.

    I got the game last week and I just beat it. Real amazing game
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    I do think that Spring was a little disappointing to me just because of the huge climax in Winter, and when we get to Spring it's just more of what Pittsburgh was like, but it was still really good. I loved having a game where the main character does the "wrong" choice but you completely understand why he did it, and you can't really admonish him for it either.


    I started playing the multiplayer too, which is fun as long as you have a team that doesn't think it's call of duty.

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    How scaring and boring does this game get sometimes? On scale 1 to 10 10 being extremely scaring and 10 being very boring at times.
    Scary? Not so much in a classic sense, except for a few sections with clickers. Intense? 8 or 9, probably.

    Boring...it depends on how you feel about zombie things. I'm very tired of them, so at times, I was probably at a 5 or 6. For the zombie fan, I doubt it ever rises above 2.

    And completely unrelated, but some thoughts on the ending after a few days of reflection, so major spoilers:

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    Don't like it. I don't mind that it's not a happy ending, which was never expected. I mind that it breaks the most important aspect of the link between Joel and Ellie, which was his honesty with her. Even when he was trying to get rid of her, he never was less than honest with her or anyone in the game. I would have found it much more likely for him to kill everyone and then tell her bluntly when she asked.

    I know the defense is going to be that it's because of his fully developed feelings for Ellie, but it was disappointing to me.

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    I thought while that made up a lot of the ending, another big part was the underlying selfish theme that the game had too. If Ellie died Joel would have nothing. Plus you could factor in that they might now even be able to make a vaccine, and even if they could how could they feasibly distribute it.


    I am glad the game didn't cop out and give us an ending where you could get a cure and Ellie still lives too.

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    I thought the vaccine was a pretty lame final goal, since everyone was treating it like salvation, when a.) as you point out, distribution would be nigh impossible, b.) it's unclear how in the world they'd have the wherewithal to manufacture it, and c.) vaccines don't really help out too much against critters that also have a tendency to bite out huge chunks of neck or beat things to death. If it was going to be used to produce some anti-infected aerosol, sure, but vaccine? Eh.

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    That's why I thought the game would end with the confrontation with David and the two of them having a "Well if this is what humans are like now maybe they don't deserve a vaccine" moment, and they head back to Tommy's. Like I think almost everyone knew that if Joel lived the game would end with him going back there.

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    In many ways, Last of Us is a fairly progressive game in terms of gender, but you know what would have been a badass statement? Gender-swap Joel and Ellie.

    Probably wouldn't sell, though.3

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    Thanks for the replies guys... Now I think ima get it.

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    My thoughts/understanding on game's ending

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    So. That ending. It's probably one of the most beautiful, openly morally gray endings in video game history. After everything they go through, Joel saving Ellie is both beautiful and terrible, and it's just so heartbreakingly unfair that Joel has had to choose between saving the world, or saving his world, and has to lie to her to do it... and after the legions of evil humans still running around, himself included, it's hard to blame Joel for thinking that humanity doesn't deserve a cure if it means killing Ellie.

    Thinking about it, it’s interesting how different a vaccine and a cure really are. As has already been said, large-scale distribution is near impossible (dangerous travelling, limited sterile syringes, etc…) and society has already collapsed and built itself into little communities of murder, hostility and corruption. That doesn't mean that a vaccine isn't worth making, just that the apocalypse has already happened and the damage is already done. The first to get vaccinated would be the firefly members at the hospital, but who next?

    The fireflies are not entirely altruistic, they run a political movement and are anti-military to the point of effectively instigating terrorist attacks on military-run quarantine zones. It’s easy to say you’ll do one thing only to be tempted otherwise once you actually achieve the power. It’s so easy to rationalise that the fireflies worked hard for the vaccine and that it is their right to decide who to immunize. The vaccine would likely become a means to pressure political ends, being withheld from certain settlements unless they subject to a new form of government. The military would probably see this as terrorists making hollow promises to sow political dissent in the populace, and amp up the aggression.

    Beyond the quarantine zones there are scattered survivors who deliberately avoid people, and groups of hunters who actively kill them before they can speak. Even if you decide to make murderous hunter societies immune (altruistic) what’s to prevent them from killing you for it so they alone have some sort of tribal superiority through biological advantage - they still have to scavenge to survive, you just diminish one hazard. Survivor groups such as Jackson surely deserve immunization though right? But just finding these groups and identifying them from the outside would be difficult, and once again immunization would likely be traded for allegiance or at least large amounts of supplies. Either way, even if you theoretically could destroy the entire cordyceps fungus instantaneously, it wouldn’t end the nightmare as Marelene hopes. After all, the prevailing threat in the wilderness is the conflicts between people, with the Sewer City being the only clear example of the cordyceps fungus wiping out a moderate society since the initial outbreak.

    It might give societies more of a fighting chance at self-sustainability, but for a very long time groups of hunters will still need to scavenge and murder to survive, and with a less dangerous wilderness a lot more travelling and clashing between settlements would be possible. That’s not to say things couldn’t eventually result in a unified people again, but the vaccine alone wouldn’t cause this, and settlements like Jackson show that once society learns how to manage the cordyceps and achieve self-sustainability, you won’t need a vaccine to maybe achieve this anyway.

    That said, I doubt Joel thought everything through and came to a similar conclusion – Perhaps he just knew in his heart that a vaccine wouldn’t change much, and giving up his only reason for living to only maybe discover one (no certainty) was just too big a loss and a life not worth living. It was maybe a selfish decision, but still reasonable because at that point Ellie had become a daughter figure to him. He had already lost his daughter and Tess, asking to sacrifice even Ellie is just too much to ask; he loves her and doesn't want her to die.


    On an unrelated note, it's rather striking how similar The Last of Us is with Bioshock Infinite. Both are AAA games with a heavy focus on narrative featuring an Unscrupulous Hero protagonists voiced by Troy Baker, who both lost their daughter 20 years ago and are now charged with escorting and protecting a special MacGuffin Girl named Elizabeth or a shortened version of the name (Ellie), bringing her outside the walls she has lived in her entire life, teaching her the ways of the outside world, and eventually turning against a black woman leading a la resistance-type revolutionary force against a corrupt government/military that is slowly falling apart.

    It's basically the Zombie Apocalypse version of Bioshock Infinite.
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    So currently I'm at the trailer from E3 or something. (after getting the car) and am wondering. When does the game get better? I enjoyed the Stealth parts at first but am pretty ungripped by the story and gameplay offers nothing new or interesting atm.
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    Well I just finished the game and man was that a good ride. I really loved the characters and that ending!

    I have to say though that as soon as I got the flamethrower the infected weren't that much of a problem and I never seemed to run out of ammo for it.

    Still once again Naughty dog succeed in making me love their games, it's definately one of my favourite recent games, and usually I hate survival horror games. I kinda hope they don't do a Last of us 2 though and instead just go with a few DLC stories that don't cover Joel and Ellie, and instead focus on other characters we've met, or even cover events in the past such as how Tess and Joel met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyber-Robin View Post
    So currently I'm at the trailer from E3 or something. (after getting the car) and am wondering. When does the game get better? I enjoyed the Stealth parts at first but am pretty ungripped by the story and gameplay offers nothing new or interesting atm.
    Pittsburgh is where it really steps up. And it really just gets better from then on, except for one section.

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    Pittsburgh is where it really steps up. And it really just gets better from then on, except for one section.
    I distinctly remember saying something similar to him when he picked up Uncharted 2. Considering how underwhelmed he was by that game, I doubt his feelings on The Last of Us will be all that different.

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