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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Naruto: Flowers
    Ironically enough, Shaman King: Flowers is getting cut short as well. So if there is a part 3/sequel, lets hope that it meets the same fate (unlikely as that is).


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    Ironically, Shaman King and Naruto are the prime example of how the author hype the villain so much it ruins the entire franchise.

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    Hao was just bleh. Despite being stronger than literally all the other characters put together, he just got slapped by mommy and then everything's all good. On that note, the protagonists were also useless in the long run because nothing they did threatened Hao in any way. SK just had a really terrible ending in general, one of the worst I'd say.


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    Wait. Shaman King was cut short once... he gets a chance to fix it... and it gets cut short AGAIN?

    Geez man. Pace yourself better.
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    Default Re: Naruto Thread XI: It's the final countdown! Frenchiboos.

    Wasn't that due to the magazine it was being published in being axed? At least other series are getting moved, but Flowers is getting straight up axed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Hao was just bleh. Despite being stronger than literally all the other characters put together, he just got slapped by mommy and then everything's all good. On that note, the protagonists were also useless in the long run because nothing they did threatened Hao in any way. SK just had a really terrible ending in general, one of the worst I'd say.
    I'd almost say Naruto has played out more coherently and satisfyingly then Shaman King.

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    Man I used to be so in love with Shaman King. Poor Shaman King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    I'd almost say Naruto has played out more coherently and satisfyingly then Shaman King.
    That doesn't mean much though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Hao was just bleh. Despite being stronger than literally all the other characters put together, he just got slapped by mommy and then everything's all good. On that note, the protagonists were also useless in the long run because nothing they did threatened Hao in any way. SK just had a really terrible ending in general, one of the worst I'd say.
    Haven't read Shaman King, but at the very least that's still way better than Kaguya, incredibly low bar though that may be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaronrules380 View Post
    Haven't read Shaman King, but at the very least that's still way better than Kaguya, incredibly low bar though that may be
    The final battle is SK is pretty much this:

    -Hao (the main villain) gets a super powerup when he was already leagues above the rest of the cast.
    -The protagonists also get a powerup, but they still can't put a scratch on him, nor can they change his mind about going through with his evil plans
    -Hao's dead mom comes along and slaps him for being a bad boy
    -Hao decides to put his evil plans on hold because mommy disapproves. The final battle is over.

    The protagonists amounted to jack shit in the end. At least in Naruto, they defeated Kaguya by themselves even if they required several deus ex machina powerups from the Sage, but it was still team 7 that had to deal the finishing blow. With SK, the protagonists could have just sat on their asses every chapter, and the ending would still be the same. What's the point of going through all those trials and challenges if in the end they amount to nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    Wait. Shaman King was cut short once... he gets a chance to fix it... and it gets cut short AGAIN?

    Geez man. Pace yourself better.
    Well, to be more accurate, the original Shaman King, as we all know, got cut short. Then he got the chance to go back and give it a proper terrible ending. Then he made a sequel series, Shaman King Flowers, and now that's been cut short too.

    Also, he made a comic with Stan Lee that absolutely no one gives a shit about.

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    Holy shit the spoiler is so boring... Again a wasted chapter as it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    The final battle is SK is pretty much this:

    -Hao (the main villain) gets a super powerup when he was already leagues above the rest of the cast.
    -The protagonists also get a powerup, but they still can't put a scratch on him, nor can they change his mind about going through with his evil plans
    -Hao's dead mom comes along and slaps him for being a bad boy
    -Hao decides to put his evil plans on hold because mommy disapproves. The final battle is over.

    The protagonists amounted to jack shit in the end. At least in Naruto, they defeated Kaguya by themselves even if they required several deus ex machina powerups from the Sage, but it was still team 7 that had to deal the finishing blow. With SK, the protagonists could have just sat on their asses every chapter, and the ending would still be the same. What's the point of going through all those trials and challenges if in the end they amount to nothing?
    That's not entirely true. Well before the final battle, Yoh affirmed that they had absolutely no chance beating Hao. That's why they gave up and chose a new plan instead: If they cannot beat Hao through strength, they would have to give him a change of heart -- and that's exactly what they did. Let's face it, Hao was the strongest shaman ever and had hated humanity for 1000 years because of what happened to his mother. Therefore, the only way to beat Hao was to appeal to the human heart he had before his mother died which was then done by finding her spirit withing the great spirit. The fact that Ohachiyo, the demon that raised Hao after his mother died and was the source of his ability to read human hearts, was the one who guided the protagonists to Hao's mother inevitably brought everything full circle. The rest of it was some slap-stick comedy. It was rushed no doubt, but he didn't really have much room for his chapters when you consider the rest of the KZB edition. I'm just glad Jump gave him another shot for a real ending instead of that orange shit. Yeah, it wasn't the best ending, but in terms of the canon, it was a sound ending; not the ending we wanted, but a good enough one.

    Hao was always a monster who no one could beat through force. They tried that twice already and he would just reincarnate whenever the Shaman Fight was approaching. I wouldn't compare him to Madara or Kaguya since Madara wasn't as overpowered as Hao and Kaguya was a superficial character that had no layers at all. If anything, I would say they're more like Kuja and Necron as the final bosses in Final Fantasy 9; like Madara, Kuja was a disgruntled man who manipulated nations into wars, was incredibly strong, and generally wanted to destroy everything; like Kaguya, Necron showed up out of nowhere and had no purpose at all as the final boss since his entire existence was a 'wtf? where'd this guy come from? why is here here? 0 foreshadowing. w/e i'll kill him so I can see the ending cinematics.'

    Shaman King Flowers hasn't been cancelled. Jump will push it to another magazine, or the author has the option to go online and make it a webtoon. He also has a couple other serieses he's working on, so it could really work out for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobodyman View Post
    Well, to be more accurate, the original Shaman King, as we all know, got cut short. Then he got the chance to go back and give it a proper terrible ending. Then he made a sequel series, Shaman King Flowers, and now that's been cut short too.

    Also, he made a comic with Stan Lee that absolutely no one gives a shit about.
    I suddenly have a hunch that his bosses were racist against the Ainu and their Shamanic ways. Maybe not.

    Anyways, we have another grueling chapter to trudge through in the morning. I consider the Naruto: Altered History fanfic to be the proper canon now.

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    Dunno if you are ready for this people... But here it is... The best villian design ever... Holy shit

    Spoiler:

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    Is it the one on the left? It's the one on the left, isn't it

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    Kishimoto here! This seems a fine time to reopen my question and answer column for the last time! As always, my answers are being relayed through Robby, who has an incredibly poor grasp of Japanese, so pardon any delays or inaccuracies in my answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Ironically enough, Shaman King: Flowers is getting cut short as well. So if there is a part 3/sequel, lets hope that it meets the same fate (unlikely as that is).
    You gotta be kidding me. I got to chapter 6, then decided to wait it out a little.

    I enjoyed Shaman King's last arc a lot more than Naruto's. Probably because of teamwork and character chemistry on the side of protagonists. And Hao was a lot more likeable than Sasuke.

    But ffs, cutting it again...
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    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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    And now the best... It seems that faggot villian is a child of Hagoromo... Yeah makes sense. Not that he has a Byakugan which would maybe explain Hamura... You know Hamura right? The brother of Hagoromo who was introduced at the last second for no reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post

    Kishimoto here! This seems a fine time to reopen my question and answer column for the last time! As always, my answers are being relayed through Robby, who has an incredibly poor grasp of Japanese, so pardon any delays or inaccuracies in my answers.
    You've been missed thank you for blessing us.

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