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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    Sounds a lot like the people who still find Naruto enjoyable are under some kind of Sharingan genjutsu.

    Well damn, I still like Naruto so does that mean I'm under genjutsu?

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    That depends on your definition of "like".

    Afterall I "like" reading stuff like Naruto and Bleach, but it certainly isn't because they're quality manga.

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    Hmm...I'm middle of the raod when it comes to Naruto.

    I still ike it and I'm still interested in the story. It's definitely got it's flaws in Part II, while Part I was excellent.

    There are a lot of manga I like better, but I don't think it's horrible or just "better than other horrible manga". I don't think it's a masterpiece manga like One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist, or 20th Century Boys. It's not great like Hunter x Hunter. I'd say it's better than mediocre though. I'd say Naruto is good with moments of greatness and 27 volumes of being excellent. I like the series....don't love it or hate it.
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    With Naruto i'm more disappointed for the fact that kishi didnt expand/show the world he created (other villages,landmarks,basicaly other things that are outside of konoha), too much focus on Konoha i think ,of course im also disappointed with panel time he gave the other ninjas,i feel that even Tenten had more panel time(in the war) then Rock lee (even if i like tenten,unfortunately weapons that arent magical are mere decorations in naruto universe).

    I just hope Sasuke redemption will be quick so forget it the second i read it.


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    My biggest problem with Naruto (maybe, honestly there are so many things wrong with part two Naruto) is that Kishimoto screwed up the themes he created in Part One.

    "Hard Work Conquers All!" "Screw Destiny!" Naruto is now literally a Child of Destiny and Rock Lee has never honestly won a fight. So Yeah.

    "Revenge is Pain!" Sasuke has a revengegasm when he kills Danzo instead of feeling empty inside which is how he should have. So Yeah.

    I know that might not seem like the biggest problem but in general for a work of fiction to have themes, they need to be executed well and not be completely contradicted later on. Even if Kishimoto's themes were very simple they were executed well with moments like Naruto vs Neji so it's really sad to see them stomped on in part two.

    And I don't know if that's my biggest flaw with the series. There's also the incredible underutilization of the secondary characters, many of whom are much more interesting than the protagonists. The top three protagonists have been acting like complete idiots throughout the series (seriously we pretty much all agree we hate Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura. It's almost impossible to like a series when you hate the protagonists.) Ignoring Hinata for more than 100 chapters and 2 years when she almost died really rubbed me the wrong way. The art has gone incredibly downhill, as can be seen by this "war". The treatment of women in the series which was already pretty bad to begin with pretty much got worse (I don't know how that's even possible.) Fights which were once interesting and exciting back in part one are now more often than not only resolved through deus ex's and asspulls. Killer Bee and Raikage are probably the only good characters introduced after the timeskip (and they're out of at least two dozen, which is pretty bad honestly).

    And honestly I could go on about the problems of the series after the timeskip all day I'm just hitting the major nails. Point is the series has been a mess since the timeskip and that's a shame because before the timeskip it was actually really good and pretty much deserved it's popularity. But I think what I've said here has already been said somewhere else, I'm probably repeating myself a bit by this point. I guess I'm just hoping that some manga newbie who's thinking about reading Naruto will stumble across these posts and take all of these flaws into account. If people don't hate Naruto then that's fine by me I will never say that Naruto was always a bad series, it was one of my favorites when I started reading manga.

    Oh yeah. And lame messages of pacifism spouted out by Jesus Naruto. What the Hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareem Said View Post
    "Revenge is Pain!" Sasuke has a revengegasm when he kills Danzo instead of feeling empty inside which is how he should have. So Yeah.
    While Sasuke is being revenge crazy, and his logic is nuts, I actually thought that was the point. Sasuke got his revenge, but he wasn't satisfied, and he was still angry, so he turns his anger towards the people "at fault for making him go on his revenge quest".

    "If they never made my brother do that, I wouldn't have had to kill him, it's their fault. Not mine. Yeah, that's it! I'll kill them all"

    However, it's hard to say what he would've done if he just thought his brother was a mass murderer.
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    as for me, im just looking for a means to an end. im usually a person who sticks with a tale until the end,regardless of the flaws that are being presented. (which is all the time lately)

    its in no way differentiating itself from the group, maybe during part one it was.

    anyways the end is definitely near, thank goodness. i think one thing we can all agree on here is that naruto has long outstayed his welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareem Said View Post
    My biggest problem with Naruto (maybe, honestly there are so many things wrong with part two Naruto) is that Kishimoto screwed up the themes he created in Part One.

    "Hard Work Conquers All!" "Screw Destiny!" Naruto is now literally a Child of Destiny and Rock Lee has never honestly won a fight. So Yeah.

    "Revenge is Pain!" Sasuke has a revengegasm when he kills Danzo instead of feeling empty inside which is how he should have. So Yeah.

    I know that might not seem like the biggest problem but in general for a work of fiction to have themes, they need to be executed well and not be completely contradicted later on. Even if Kishimoto's themes were very simple they were executed well with moments like Naruto vs Neji so it's really sad to see them stomped on in part two.

    And I don't know if that's my biggest flaw with the series. There's also the incredible underutilization of the secondary characters, many of whom are much more interesting than the protagonists. The top three protagonists have been acting like complete idiots throughout the series (seriously we pretty much all agree we hate Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura. It's almost impossible to like a series when you hate the protagonists.) Ignoring Hinata for more than 100 chapters and 2 years when she almost died really rubbed me the wrong way. The art has gone incredibly downhill, as can be seen by this "war". The treatment of women in the series which was already pretty bad to begin with pretty much got worse (I don't know how that's even possible.) Fights which were once interesting and exciting back in part one are now more often than not only resolved through deus ex's and asspulls. Killer Bee and Raikage are probably the only good characters introduced after the timeskip (and they're out of at least two dozen, which is pretty bad honestly).

    And honestly I could go on about the problems of the series after the timeskip all day I'm just hitting the major nails. Point is the series has been a mess since the timeskip and that's a shame because before the timeskip it was actually really good and pretty much deserved it's popularity. But I think what I've said here has already been said somewhere else, I'm probably repeating myself a bit by this point. I guess I'm just hoping that some manga newbie who's thinking about reading Naruto will stumble across these posts and take all of these flaws into account. If people don't hate Naruto then that's fine by me I will never say that Naruto was always a bad series, it was one of my favorites when I started reading manga.

    Oh yeah. And lame messages of pacifism spouted out by Jesus Naruto. What the Hell!
    I agree with this 100%. At this point it's not much of a joy to read. It feels like...just stick with it. It has to be nearly done. But I dunno...For the people that go ballistic over it, I think it's just because it's fanfiction fodder at this point.

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    I hate fish, so I must hate Naruto also!
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    What's NotNaruto's fingers doing!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuffyWinner View Post
    That's gotta be the funniest thing I've seen today. And I just watched the Cowboy Andy episodes of Cowboy Bebop so that's saying something.
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    this image makes me deeply sick for a variety of reasons.

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    Not as sick as a Banjo Kazooie one made me once.
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    Hello Kishi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPGJay View Post
    That depends on your definition of "like".

    Afterall I "like" reading stuff like Naruto and Bleach, but it certainly isn't because they're quality manga.
    When I say "like" I mean I'm still interested in the overall development of the story (all the way to the end), and I'm particularly still interested in how the story will end exactly. Since I still hold some interest in the story and bother to remember little things about the characters, arcs, conversations, powers, flashbacks, etc... I can't say I dislike 'Naruto'. I'm honestly still invested in the storyline. Though, a lot of people would say "we all know what's going to happen in the end" I still would like to see how Kishi goes about doing it. Also, there may be more than we're expecting and actually most likely that is the case.

    I'm definitely not saying it's a quality manga just because I like it. I suppose it just really hooked me at the beginning and though the quality has degraded so much what has never left me is the desire to see Naruto become Hokage and "save" Sasuke. Plus, I wonder if Kishi will ever do anything as important with the side characters again (including Sakura) and that 1 person named Hinata.

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    This is not the thread for this, so I'll start with an apology.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kareem Said View Post
    So once more, take it from the top: Naruto Sucks! Read Toriko, Eyeshield 21, Berserk and Hunter x Hunter instead you goddamn fanboys!
    @Kareem: If you haven't yet done so yet go read Slam Dunk. It's one of the best shonen ever.

    & to make this post relevant to the thread; I shall confess that I stopped reading Naruto since he & KB went to the war (and KB became an official idiot/got converted), I was never a real fan of naruto so it was quite easy to quit I guess. Now I just come here for the giggles every now and then
    I was banned from HxH thread b/c Robby disagrees with my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outerspec View Post
    When I say "like" I mean I'm still interested in the overall development of the story (all the way to the end), and I'm particularly still interested in how the story will end exactly. Since I still hold some interest in the story and bother to remember little things about the characters, arcs, conversations, powers, flashbacks, etc... I can't say I dislike 'Naruto'. I'm honestly still invested in the storyline. Though, a lot of people would say "we all know what's going to happen in the end" I still would like to see how Kishi goes about doing it. Also, there may be more than we're expecting and actually most likely that is the case.

    I'm definitely not saying it's a quality manga just because I like it. I suppose it just really hooked me at the beginning and though the quality has degraded so much what has never left me is the desire to see Naruto become Hokage and "save" Sasuke. Plus, I wonder if Kishi will ever do anything as important with the side characters again (including Sakura) and that 1 person named Hinata.
    I can agree with this. I suppose by that definition I "like" Naruto as well, considering I'm sticking around to see how it ends too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPGJay View Post
    I can agree with this. I suppose by that definition I "like" Naruto as well, considering I'm sticking around to see how it ends too.
    i think to some extent, regardless of how much we hate naruto, we are all somewhat interested to see how it ends.

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