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    Im starting to imagine some pretty dumb moments actually coming true now. Again, given what we've seen its all possible.
    Gaaras dad being misunderstood, Naruto becoming jesus and the all so awesome battle strategies of ninjas:

    Spoiler:

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    Everyone standing lined up like that. I see no problem with it, its not like they are Ninjas now are they? Haha, I swear I could have been fooled. =)

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    Yeah, nothing wrong with charging on a desert downhill a Sanddune. Its not like you could just take advantage of it or anything. Not to mention the insane "GENIUS" of charging straight forward. again, cant possibly be ninjas. X)



    Yeah I know I might repeat myself on these 2 pics, but I cant help it. Strategy is no longer a discussion since its just charging and yelling, we see characters being turned 180 so I would not be surprised for whatever Kishi is going to do next. His claim of making an epic battle is not so off the chart. What happens never ceases to amaze me. =)

    Anyways, predictions for the next chapter:

    1. Will the new development between Gaara and his dad lead anywhere?
    2. ... Fuck it, I cant predict anything anymore. Things just happen without any reason, just shit happening here and there. x(

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromonki View Post
    Why? He'd be a comedic genius.

    I thought they've shown Rock Lee's parents haven't they?
    Well, in that case, both are comical geniuses, so they're in the same league... >>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namixluffy2 View Post
    Just tell me the Naruto move you were talking about. Ian interested to see it. Anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromonki View Post
    I thought they've shown Rock Lee's parents haven't they?
    No, and I don't think they will. He seems to spend all his time training or with Guy.

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    Isnt guy sort of like his teacher and false parent? Lee idolizes the man to the extreme: he dresses as him, has the same hairstyle and fiery attitude and even sets his goals to become like him. And lets not forget the heartwarming scene between them when Lee broke down from all the hardships he was going through after the exam.
    Guy convinces him to take on the surgery even if it brings a risk of death, because giving his dreams up would mean giving up who he is. I do not know though if that "we both die" part came from the manga, but it was passable. Guy had set his goals to help Lee make his dreams come true, and if he dies during surgery, his goals would die with Lee at that point."

    Pretty much my favorite character for stated reasons. He has a goal that he means to carry out, that even dropouts can become strong, as far as that he's aiming for it without any Genjutsu or Ninjutsu whatsoever. I'll say fuck naruto because he gets his power for free, from anywhere whenever his current powers can be challenged. And the idiot cant even handle it. He gets new powers for a short period then goes aiming for new kinds of powers without training or harnessing them whatsoever. Much different from how he was determined to learn Rasengan and Summoning back in part 1, the length of Sage mode being useful for transcending Naruto's character in the story was kept pretty damn short.

    Back to Lee, what has happened with him ever since part 1? Not a damn thing. He's been brushed off along with any other credible character like Gaara, Neji, Kiba, Shino... Temari, Kankuro, Hinata and plenty more I'd love to mention but cant really think of right now. Funny how these characters so quickly become more fun to watch than Naruto just because Naruto does the same thing over and over. You could argument the rest of the characters would act in a similar way yes had they been given more screen time, but we see them so much less its kind of forgiving. And plus, when we do see them they're bound for action anyway. Naruto just sort of stands there, poses and screams his repeat lines; Dattebayo, Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, Rasengan as if he's a Pokemon.

    But oh well, lets see if Kishi decides to touch Lee's character in any future chapters. And may the devil help him when he does, cause who knows how many readers would be upset to see one of the stronger part 1 characters get a 180 degree twist. Unless the fans have all converted to the kind you can find on naruto chat forums, and the haters residing on sites like this.

    Also, my word on this picture:
    Spoiler:
    What the **** is that? For starters, I already knew Naruto was going to shine in an outer glow completely hiding his whole body with the exception of his frame and face. But that does not even look credible. This is what is supposed to be striving for peace and faith from all the Ninjas in the known Naruto World?

    Well gratz, they sold their dignity to someone who doesn't know how politics even work, nor the inner structure how how to preserve a peace. He just screams his tag line and preaches peace. Why I am thinking of a hypocrite, I am rather curious to see proven false.

    I also love the eyes. His dad has blue eyes, his mom has purple and Naruto's eyes somehow come out glowing RED! Was keeping his normally blue eyes too convincing for peace?
    A Sand-looking demon spawn screaming Dattebayo and preaching false peace I'll say. ^^
    (Also look at the index finger on his left hand. Cute nail.)

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    The only reason why Kishi was focusing nicely on the 12 "rookies" in part 1 was because he wasn't allowing the story to involve itself too much outside of the realm of Konoha. We were focusing on very skilled kids growing up slowly, and that was great. We didn't need to know too much at this point worldwide. The story was just beginning. What should have happened in part 2, was the same. Watch the kids grow and become Jounin and surpass their teachers all in their own way. What stopped this? Sasuke, and Akatsuki. We all know the constant chasing of Sasuke stopped everything in terms of watching the kids grow. And Akatsuki was not a bad idea, but it probably should have been a terrorist organization created secretly by another nation. Like the Rock or Mist nation. Instead it was just a rogue terrorist group against the world. That in itself caused many problems since no nation until recently was concerned about Akatsuki, even when their jinchuuriki were kidnapped. It just all seems implausible. Such an irresponsible world of skilled, educated ninja are making these types of mistakes? Not only that, but the whole notion that jinchuuriki were exiled in some cases is also really stupid. It just sucks. Kishi should have stuck with character development, and even if you had an occasional plot hole, it still wouldn't have seemed that bad. Decent character development along with decent growth is all Kishi needed to focus on. He along with his editors probably knew that for the short run, for however long they wanted the manga to last, all they needed to do was create a problem where the world would be in danger and set the main character up to save it. Anything else they would not bother explaining. All Kishi thinks he needs to do is show us some flashy fights and people will be excited. But many people see through that shit.

    In all honesty, I believe Kishi hates his own manga. He probably was forced by editors and other people to do things he didn't want to do. That is why occasionally we see badly drawn chapters. It's a sign that he's not motivated to do something he wants to do. With Oda it seems like the opposite. Oda loves his manga and it shows. But I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.french View Post
    But many people see through that shit.
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    I believe Kishimoto cared about his series when he started out and was actually making an effort with his work but somewhere in part 2 he decided he didn't care anymore, but kept going with it because of his (and Shueisha's) greed. They just wanted more money and didn't care about the actual quality of the product. They thought that the very high quality part one had in the beginning with Zabuza and Chunin Exams would be enough to keep the franchise afloat forever. Sadly they were pretty much right.
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  9. #3029

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    He said he wanted to do a mafia manga badly, too bad he just showed off some crappy baseball oneshot instead.

    So Juju's banned again, wonder what he did this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.french View Post
    The only reason why Kishi was focusing nicely on the 12 "rookies" in part 1 was because he wasn't allowing the story to involve itself too much outside of the realm of Konoha. We were focusing on very skilled kids growing up slowly, and that was great. We didn't need to know too much at this point worldwide. The story was just beginning. What should have happened in part 2, was the same. Watch the kids grow and become Jounin and surpass their teachers all in their own way. What stopped this? Sasuke, and Akatsuki. We all know the constant chasing of Sasuke stopped everything in terms of watching the kids grow. And Akatsuki was not a bad idea, but it probably should have been a terrorist organization created secretly by another nation. Like the Rock or Mist nation. Instead it was just a rogue terrorist group against the world. That in itself caused many problems since no nation until recently was concerned about Akatsuki, even when their jinchuuriki were kidnapped. It just all seems implausible. Such an irresponsible world of skilled, educated ninja are making these types of mistakes? Not only that, but the whole notion that jinchuuriki were exiled in some cases is also really stupid. It just sucks. Kishi should have stuck with character development, and even if you had an occasional plot hole, it still wouldn't have seemed that bad. Decent character development along with decent growth is all Kishi needed to focus on. He along with his editors probably knew that for the short run, for however long they wanted the manga to last, all they needed to do was create a problem where the world would be in danger and set the main character up to save it. Anything else they would not bother explaining. All Kishi thinks he needs to do is show us some flashy fights and people will be excited. But many people see through that shit.

    In all honesty, I believe Kishi hates his own manga. He probably was forced by editors and other people to do things he didn't want to do. That is why occasionally we see badly drawn chapters. It's a sign that he's not motivated to do something he wants to do. With Oda it seems like the opposite. Oda loves his manga and it shows. But I could be wrong.
    Yeah, I agree with this post. I also believe Kishi stopped caring after the first half of Shippuden. Oda loves his manga, and the proof I have is that he changed his drawing style because he thought no one would read if he used the same old style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareem Said View Post
    I believe Kishimoto cared about his series when he started out and was actually making an effort with his work but somewhere in part 2 he decided he didn't care anymore, but kept going with it because of his (and Shueisha's) greed. They just wanted more money and didn't care about the actual quality of the product. They thought that the very high quality part one had in the beginning with Zabuza and Chunin Exams would be enough to keep the franchise afloat forever. Sadly they were pretty much right.
    Judging from what I know, Kishi used to be pretty lonely, had very poor results in school and with girls(I feel sorry for him). Eventually, he had his success with Naruto. He must have found himself flooded with fan letters from fangirls (Even Oda says that Boys are too lazy to write) asking him to put more Sasuke and romance. He must have not been used to this kind of attention that he listened to his fans and he was wrong. Naruto seems to be another series victim of its own success.

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    ^ Ouch... that almost makes me feel sorry for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanji499 View Post
    Judging from what I know, Kishi used to be pretty lonely, had very poor results in school and with girls(I feel sorry for him). Eventually, he had his success with Naruto. He must have found himself flooded with fan letters from fangirls (Even Oda says that Boys are too lazy to write) asking him to put more Sasuke and romance. He must have not been used to this kind of attention that he listened to his fans and he was wrong. Naruto seems to be another series victim of its own success.
    there's romance in naruto? of the heterosexual variety i mean

  14. #3034

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    Now Aizen is off panels in Bleach, I want him to make a cameo appearance in Naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARC-1300 View Post
    there's romance in naruto? of the heterosexual variety i mean
    Yes. But the homosexual romance greatly outweighs the heterosexual romance.

  16. #3036

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    yea, remember Kurenai and Asuma?
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    I mean there are explicit "I love you" lines (Hinata and Sakura).

    I found this once in a lifetime comment on youtube word for word a few weeks ago on the war.

    THE PLOT WILL SUK WITHDOUT SASUKE, SASUKE MAKES EVETYTHING INTRESTING. HE TRAINS ALOT AND HAS MORE ABILITIES. NARUTO KEEPS SPAMMING KAGE BUNSHINS UNLIKE SASUKE. SASUKE FTMFW

    My reaction ...

    Last edited by sanji499; July 16th, 2011 at 10:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareem Said View Post
    I believe Kishimoto cared about his series when he started out and was actually making an effort with his work but somewhere in part 2 he decided he didn't care anymore, but kept going with it because of his (and Shueisha's) greed. They just wanted more money and didn't care about the actual quality of the product. They thought that the very high quality part one had in the beginning with Zabuza and Chunin Exams would be enough to keep the franchise afloat forever. Sadly they were pretty much right.
    I disagree, I don't think kishi writes naruto solely for his paycheck. A) How can kishi "keep" going if he hasn't even reached the goal of naruto, Naruto saving the world and becoming hokage etc.It would be stupid to just randomly stop the series right in the thick of things. Until kishi meets these conditions and still decides to continue can you speculate his doing it for "greed".
    B) If kishi was just in it for the money there are much easier ways of milking off Naruto than going through the trouble of drawing a weekly manga, do you even know how hard it is to publish weekly comics, there are virtually no BREAKS!! and certainly not enough free time to indulge in the money he makes.
    C) It's totally possible that kishi isn't as motivated as he used to be but it doesn't mean he doesn't care about naruto enough to finish what he started. If he really didn't care he could have just ended naruto abruptly or just resorted to scribbles or even just released 10 chaptes a year and go on extended breaks and play Dragon quest and He'd still be making money off of naruto instead of what he's doing now which is always meeting his dead lines and hardly ever taking breaks in the decade+ his worked on Naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narutossss View Post
    I disagree, I don't think kishi writes naruto solely for his paycheck. A) How can kishi "keep" going if he hasn't even reached the goal of naruto, Naruto saving the world and becoming hokage etc.It would be stupid to just randomly stop the series right in the thick of things. Until kishi meets these conditions and still decides to continue can you speculate his doing it for "greed".
    B) If kishi was just in it for the money there are much easier ways of milking off Naruto than going through the trouble of drawing a weekly manga, do you even know how hard it is to publish weekly comics, there are virtually no BREAKS!! and certainly not enough free time to indulge in the money he makes.
    C) It's totally possible that kishi isn't has motivated has he used to be but it doesn't mean he doesn't care about naruto enough to finish what he started. If he really didn't care he could have just ended naruto abruptly or just resort to scribbles or even just release 10 chaptes a year and go on extended breaks and play Dragon quest and He'd still be making money off of naruto instead of what he's doing now which is always meeting his deadly lines and hardly ever taking breaks in the decade+ his worked on Naruto.
    I believe when Kishimoto started out writing this series he actually cared about what he was doing (and I even think he had talent believe it or not) but I don't think he's putting nearly enough effort into the story anymore. For the past couple of years it feels like he's been phoning it in and hasn't been putting in his best effort. But maybe I'm wrong maybe Sanji499 was on the mark with Kishimoto just having the worst idea for how to go about the series.

    Sanji499 do you have a source for your "Kishi was lonely and miserable as a child" theory because that's very interesting if true.
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    I think the art alone is proof that Kishi doesn't care as much anymore. The art is absolutely awful nowadays, where as it used to be good

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