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    Fukaboshi pwned Dosun, let's see if he can be the Viper of this arc and actually go on to defeat 1-2 named enemies by himself, or he will be taken out by a ES'd Dosun.

    Finally get to see Caribou again, now we know ugly is after the princess.

    So Arlong had a soft side, a dream, well, maybe only subconsciously, still, I don't mind the revelation.

    lol@Luffy barely remember the name Fisher Tiger.

    Fisher Tiger looks awesome; Arlong looked better 15 years ago; Jimbei looked MUCH better 15 years ago.

    The upcoming flashback should be good, can't wait.

    Only complain about this chapter? Sanji. While some might see it as redemption to certain degree, I found it pathetic the man who almost died by looking at boobs, twice, right before this chapter, is now trying to act up and talk sh1t to Jimbei the man to whom their captain owes his life in more than one way.
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    Awwwww, Gaimon found himself a little girlfriend. How sweet! I didn`t get the name joke, until I got here and saw the two names next to each other. And Oda didn`t forget about Johnny and Yosaku We`ll see them soon.

    Damn, Oda is such a masterfull storyteller for linking Arlong Park to Shabaody Park. How did nobody make that connection yet? And I`m so glad that Oda again shows some of Namis backstory here. This issues need to be adressed, both for the story and for Namis character progression. Loved Jimbei`s reaction, too. He couldn`t have known that one of the Strawhat Pirates had such a personal connection and suffered so much under Arlong.


    And I don`t think Luffy has forgotten about Hancocks story, he is just really bad with names. I liked both Namis and Sanjis reactions, Nami staying calm and serious and Sanji threatening Jimbei.

    This flashback will be one of the best in the story. I can`t wait. Is there gonna be a chapter enxt week? I heard something about a Shonen Jump break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasia View Post
    What does Zeo mean on page 6 "Look proof that humans are cruel and brutal beings"?

    Does he have human blood? Is the guy he is strangling the one he is calling proof? confusing unless it's a mistranslation.
    A regular fishman says that he can't go off the Island because if he were to go to Human's World they would kill him because he is a fishmen. So he points out this as humans' cruelty.

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    AH much clear thanks.

    "As soon as anyone comes into power they turn cold and fearsome..even within the heart of the pillars of government that decided fishmen and human would be friends...".

    Does anyone think Jimbei is talking about somebody specific in the Gorousei here or am I misinterpreting things again.
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    http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/83002268/11

    Best part of the entire chapter. And a top ranker in the series overall.

    I also liked the little nudge about how the elite part of town is called Gyoverly hills.

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    Thanks for the chapter.

    This is the first really good, non-rushed chapter in a long time...and well worth the wait of revelation. From all the Fishmen trying to bring trouble back to the revelation of the Sun Pirates (and grumpy old Arlong) definately shows we're going to get an epic flashback we've been waiting a long time for.
    Y'know, Negima WAS awesome...
    For the first 18 volumes.

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    Great chapter!!! the flashback would be great!!prince fukaboshi look really strong!!!!and luffy is always absend-minded...

    Quote Originally Posted by thousand_sunny View Post
    What if together with destroying Fishman Island, at the same time Luffy declares to the world that Fishmans are his dear friends, so whoever dares attacking or insulting them and not welcoming them in the human world would have to face Strawhat pirates' wrath......it would even more bad ass than Whitebeard's statement about protecting Fishman Island
    that look so crazy..
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    This chapter was mindblowing from the coverstory to the last panel:
    1) Gaimon and Sarfunkel were great even before I got the reference.
    2) Sanji's balance is just incredible. He's getting his badass going again.
    3) Park = Park ? Whoooooooaaa!
    4) Finally Sun pirates looks: Young Jimbei looks awesome, Arlongs got a sweet hat, and *inhale* KUROOBI'S GOT AN AFRO!!! *BLOWN*

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    Wonder who finaly brought the sun pirates down down. I would welcome a bit of flashback Sengoku right about now.

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    Or Kong :O .

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    Woah young Jinbee looks very cool



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    Quote Originally Posted by thousand_sunny View Post
    I don' t think so.. fishman just need to behave well and assure themselves they could live side by side with human, and act in good manner towards human to gain their trust....If average human want to fight, human would lose because fishmans are born with more physical power than most humans. So fishmans just could defend themselves from people trying to hurt them but not retaliating....by doing so, finally fishman would become human's true friend.

    Or possibly Luffy could just send the message to the his old friends and thus sending Fishmans to go there first like Arabasta, Chopper's homeland, Water Seven, East Blue.
    I'm sure that has worked in the real world!

    Oda isn't going to make THIS particular issue a fairy tale that the people of the world is going to recive the fishmen with their arms open.

    And what about the mermaids? where are they going to live? The only other place that has bubles like those is.. shabody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Maam View Post
    Or Kong :O .
    Now there is a thought. King kong deals with the aquatic tiger

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    So, what time it is, children?

    It's Flashback Time, y'all!

    [MegaUpload]One Piece Chapter 620[MangaStream]

    Quote Originally Posted by Myu View Post
    Other than that, I want this flashback to be as good as the Norland's and Karakura's story.
    Norland's friend was named Kalgara, not Karakura.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJew View Post
    The unexpected *damn* moment for me: Page 10, last panel.

    That Jimbei reaction shot is veeeeerrrrryyyyy telling.
    When you see a shichibukai make a face like that, it has got to tell you something alright.

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    Best chapter in a couple of months, really. Finally we've gotten beyond exposition of this arc into the meat of it.

    I love it that Oda's humanizing Arlong without necessarily justifying the extremes he went to to get back at those who repressed him in his youth. We also have the two conflicting reform movements: do you fight violently against repression, revenging the atrocities committed against your people with similarly heinous acts? Or do you submit to authority, protest nonviolently, and try to reform from within the current abusive power dynamic. Considering all that's going on in the Mideast these days, this theme is tremendously topical.... but as a universal social dynamic, maybe any time period could offer examples of this dichotomy.

    The NFP are getting fleshed out too, despite their limited screen time. By choosing the late queen as their scapegoat, they blame the "uncle toms" within their culture for preaching reconciliation. By turning on their own, they show they harming the human "enemy" is more important than improving the welfare of their people. Sadly, this makes most people easily stereotype them as "terrorists" or the like, and assume that they are inherently evil, while dismissing the societal factors that led to that build up of rage and anomie.

    I'm truly hoping fisher tiger gets fleshed out as a complex character. Does he fight to free slaves out of moral indignity? revenge? sympathy for their plight? Or is it more a luffy level "i won't stand by to see dreams destroyed" kind of thing? I'm looking forward to the fights he gets into with the Queen. It'd be like being a fly on the wall in a confrontation between Malcolm X and MLK.

    Best panel of the chapter goes to Luffy sipping tea on page 14. I love that face that he gets when he is deciding his moral stance on a complicated issue. It must be the anticipation, because once he is decided, he ends up doing ridiculous things in what then seems a sudden and unplanned manner. That same empty expression presaged everything from picking fights with god to declaring war on the World Government. I suppose I envy his conviction while admiring the subtlety of his process.

    Hmmm... new AP theme I'd better update the avatar....

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    I saw CHuuuuu and the Guy that Sanji fought, LOL he had an afro! LOL

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    Just noticed that Fisher has a huge beard, but his upper lip is about as hair covered as a 13 year old boys would be.

    Not cool man, that mustasch looks way to mexican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    I'm sure that has worked in the real world!

    Oda isn't going to make THIS particular issue a fairy tale that the people of the world is going to recive the fishmen with their arms open.

    And what about the mermaids? where are they going to live? The only other place that has bubles like those is.. shabody.

    If what I said would really happen, I would not expect all humans would give their arms open. I am more into the Queen Otohime's ideals, enduring for awhile from any attacks and insults to change the future. Seeing how a lot of regular fishmans really respect queen otohime, I think it might work. Mermaids I think don't need bubble if living in human world, like how caimie first introduced with Pappag in outside world without bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    I'm sure that has worked in the real world!

    Oda isn't going to make THIS particular issue a fairy tale that the people of the world is going to recive the fishmen with their arms open.

    And what about the mermaids? where are they going to live? The only other place that has bubles like those is.. shabody.
    I think you just hit on how this entire Arc is going to end. If Fishman Island is indeed going to be destroyed Shabody will be where everyone goes to live. The Park will no longer be off limits to mermaids and fishmen. Sabody is a special place for the Strawhats after all the island of restarting. If Luffy is going to claim an island for his own it might just be that one.

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    Seeing three women run away in the left down corner of the fisher tiger picture ^^ who might that be.

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