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    Exclamation I have no problem about anything in the One Piece story except...

    It seems that the show is absolutely perfect except for one thing. At least to me, I never feel like any of the characters are going all out when they fight. (I know i'm gonna get hate for this) but it seems that even when Luffy tries to save Ace...he's holding back! It seems that when Whitebeard starts destroying the military base that he's doing it with half of his effort. I think i might feel this way because you never see the toll the battle takes on the characters after the battle is over. No character is ever in a state of absolute exhaustion, they either are fighting, dead, or unconcious, never in between.

    It seems that all the characters are always in complete control of their mental state, and always know their physical limits(or just have unlimited stamina). In the real world people lose control, make mistakes, and go completely balistic.

    This image of complete control is evident most in it's star character Luffy! up to this point in the series he has been the pinacle of good, just, and happiness. Which is great but this completely golden person is immpossible in the real world. I want to see Luffy as someone who could actually exist. I want to see Luffy just flat out lose it and murder someone, not kill the guy to protect someone,but go beyond what is nessicary and murder them. this would make Luffy a much more believeable character. we all lose control at one point, not to the exstent of ending a life, but Luffy and his crew are so powerful that they need to worry about more dangerous things.

    Ace just died in the show, how has this not made Luffy just flat out destroyed something? yes his mind is broken blah blah blah. but seriously if someones closest relative was killed infront of them, at some point they would be mad as hell. And Luffy has the ability and the resources to get his revenge, so why not do so?

    I hope i'm not the only one that feels this way. yes it's a bit of a dark topic but the feelings of rage and hate are part of what make people who they are. I just would like a slightly more believeable characters, that's all.

    Please Let Me Know What You Think.

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    welcome to the world of shonen manga.

    edit: also for smaller theories of this type we would post in an already established thread such as: http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=12012 or http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=14152
    plus it's the wrong sub-form as this actually pertains to OP.
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    fail post. congratulations you've just been nominated for hall of shame.
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    He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.


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    just to get the very basics of the things you missed:

    wrong sub-forum
    you completely skipped over Luffy collapsing from exhaustion after fighting Lucci, and during the war itself before Ivankov shot him up again
    and Luffy probably won't ever murder anyone because that's just who he is (plz see SBS)
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    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.



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    Well Luffy only collapsed after he defeated him, i mean collapse durring a fight. (mind breaking) doesn't count.

    thats just who he is? that''s exactly my point! no one is that perfect, Period! yes i understand that it's just an anime but whatever, i want some sense of realism in my crazy super powered pirate adventure!

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    he collapsed during that fight too

    and you again skipped over how Luffy collapsed during the war, only able to go on after he was drugged by Ivankov again

    you're bad at this

    you call yourself SpartanLuffy and then start bitching about the things that make Luffy Spartan-like?

    shut up
    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanLuffy View Post
    Well Luffy only collapsed after he defeated him, i mean collapse durring a fight. (mind breaking) doesn't count.

    thats just who he is? that''s exactly my point! no one is that perfect, Period! yes i understand that it's just an anime but whatever, i want some sense of realism in my crazy super powered pirate adventure!
    Usopp's the only reason Luffy got up again DURING the Lucci fight.
    How much did you just skim???

    And who gives a shit if he's 'perfect'? That's what makes it IDEAL. That's why people WANT to read about him.
    Besides, Goku and his kids are 'perfect' too! I don't hear you bitching about them!
    Quote Originally Posted by Drake_Cloud View Post
    He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.


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    hahahaha
    1) I want there to be a sense of desperation in the series. with no one there to help you. make it a game of survival, not a "how fast and hard can i punch contest".

    2) Luffy is amazing, he just never seems to be in mortal danger. in my opinion

    3) i will not buy one of your stupid hats!!!!!

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    Luffy VS Foxy
    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.



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    what about Luffy vs Foxy. he found a mirror. OOooOOooOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanLuffy View Post
    Well Luffy only collapsed after he defeated him, i mean collapse durring a fight. (mind breaking) doesn't count.

    thats just who he is? that''s exactly my point! no one is that perfect, Period! yes i understand that it's just an anime but whatever, i want some sense of realism in my crazy super powered pirate adventure!
    If you're looking for realism in One Piece I suggest you look elsewhere friend-o.

    read.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanLuffy View Post
    hahahaha
    1) I want there to be a sense of desperation in the series. with no one there to help you. make it a game of survival, not a "how fast and hard can i punch contest".

    2) Luffy is amazing, he just never seems to be in mortal danger. in my opinion
    1) If you want something like that then read something else.

    2) So? As Oda himself has put out there: the hero never dies.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanLuffy View Post
    what about Luffy vs Foxy. he found a mirror. OOooOOooOO
    She meant that the Luffy vs Foxy arc WAS a story of survival dumbass
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    He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.


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    you're also just glazing over the entire point of the series

    never mind one of his best speeches from Arlong Park where he admitted that he needs help from his friends or he won't get anywhere period

    re-read the entire series and then come back before you try spreading bullshit
    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.



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    Mortal danger? numerous times... especially when got himself drowned in the clouds... can't be more desperate than that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButternutSquash View Post
    Mortal danger? numerous times... especially when got himself drowned in the clouds... can't be more desperate than that!!
    Also in Arlong Park where he was trapped in the cement and thrown under water
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    He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.


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    he also could have drowned in Baratie

    oh, look, every time he's helped by his friends

    baaaaaaaaaaaaw
    Quote Originally Posted by Silence View Post
    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.



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    Ok yes i understand that i am being ridiculous saying i want rwalism in anime. and i never said Luffy had to die. i don't want him to. i'm just saying that to me it feels like the characters are a slight bit 2 demensional and the action/suspense could be improved apon. i mean hell the part with Luffy trying to get to ace took like 4 episodes and he was just running. make something more interesting happen.

    I love the series as a whole, and i understand that nothing can be perfect, i'm just saying what i'm thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanLuffy View Post
    Ok yes i understand that i am being ridiculous saying i want rwalism in anime. and i never said Luffy had to die. i don't want him to. i'm just saying that to me it feels like the characters are a slight bit 2 demensional and the action/suspense could be improved apon. i mean hell the part with Luffy trying to get to ace took like 4 episodes and he was just running. make something more interesting happen.

    I love the series as a whole, and i understand that nothing can be perfect, i'm just saying what i'm thinking.
    Then say it without being an asshole. The smartass comments will get you nowhere.

    The fact is, it's completely impossible to create a character from scratch and make them 100% lifelike because you're making up the things they do. welcome to the real world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drake_Cloud View Post
    He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.


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    and yes thank you i did for get about when he was seriously screwed at arlong park. and i understand that luffy is only as strong as his team and all that. but i think since the crew is sepeated there should be some individual growth.

    i'm not trying to make anyone upset, so stop flipping out.

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