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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade View Post
    I already despise this game for what it is going to do with my free time.


    I believe the delivery is free only if you live in the UK.
    Well I checked and it seems at least one of the shops do ship to Hungary free.


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    Finished and I love it. I'm curious about the skill system. Could this mean you can possibly max out everything? Not that I would, but it looks very possible. Sweet stuff. My favorite part is duel wielding. Not just weapons, but magic. I swear, I'm going to be a lightning mage with enchanted heavy maces. I mean, everything that isn't stealth looks fun as hell this time around. I'm was also very impressed with the dungeon design. A cave with liminous lighting from above, rivers, and that section with a spiderweb. I'm kinda hoping the variety persist, even though they are no doubt going to recycle. I just want enough variety because aside from Aylied ruins in Oblivion, all the dungeons were boring caves.

    Another thing that really impressed me was trap spells. These are among my favorite class of spell in magics. Sweet stuff. I'm also hoping there's more equipment classes aside from the traditional ones(Dwavern, Glass, ect). As a matter of fact, I'd like a a whole ton of unique looking gear... just as long as there are some unquie ones that's fully customizable instead of coming with shitty enchantments that lose their usefulness very quickly.

    Things I have a gripe about. While it looks like the 3rd person is better, it still has this awkward floaty look when it comes to walking in steep edges. The guy playing was trying really hard to for his audience to avoid seeing any of this... sneaky bastard. That the the horse animations are still crap. I was kinda hoping something like... Assassin's Creed or something, but I guess that's a bit too much work for the environment this game works with. Other gripes.. well... the audience kind sucked. That's what being raised under third person shooters do to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroy View Post
    Finished and I love it. I'm curious about the skill system. Could this mean you can possibly max out everything? Not that I would, but it looks very possible.
    I would think so, which would be the max level (unless there's some sort of level cap which would be sort of dumb for a single player rpg, even though it's been done). Couldn't you max all the skills in Oblivion? It seemed like it, though I never tried. The only major difference I can see is that they did away with the primary and secondary skill separation which dictated leveling, and I think that's a change for the better personally. The bonuses seem to be determined on a temporary basis by those stone things now. And with the addition of the perks, I think I'm going to like this skill/level system a lot better than the Oblivion one, which I liked just fine despite the problems. Once I figured out how the Oblivion system worked, I couldn't help myself from grinding a few secondary skills before I leveled to increase my stat bonuses. I'll be glad to see that done away with, for example.

    I'm totally with you on the spells. Some of the new spell concepts are really cool, and I also like the changes to the actual casting of them. I also agree with what you said about the caves. I don't expect much in the way of a bunch of new gear classes, though, but I'm hopeful we'll get some in some addons or something.

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    Ah. Maybe I was confusing the skill system for the stat system boost. I think there was a cap to how far you could have distributed your stats in a way that you could not have them all maxed at once. Like for example, it was better distribute your stats into whatever compliments your major skills. This was a bit of a problem for me as I got bored with one setup and could not really switch since there was no way I could have strengthened the abilities I ignored upon the max level.

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    Well, Oblivion had a weird system. You had 7 primary skills that started at 25 and the other 14 were secondary and started at 0 (out of 100). The stats also capped out at 100 and started at various amounts by race and all that. What was weird is that you were better served to pick primary skills you didn't want to use very much. You'd level up after your primary skills went up by a total of 10 combined points. You then got to upgrade your choice of 3 stats, which went up by the skill points gained from the 3 skills in that stats category divided by 2, with a maximum of +5. So to get the maximum +5 strength, you needed to skill up blade/blunt/hand-to-hand by a total of 10 points or more (which is really only possible as secondary skills or by doing that alone). If you worked the system to your advantage, which I couldn't help but do once I figured it out, it really wasn't that tough to max out your stat points as well. If you just played like the game told you you were supposed to, you'd probably never cap out a single one and you'd be dealing with +2's and +3's on most levels.

    I'll be happy to see that system be done away with.

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    Here's some nice news: Same-sex marriage is included in Skyrim.
    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1190402p1.html

    I do hope Skyrim turns out to be better than Oblivion. I tried playing Oblivion and I just didn't enjoy it.

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    Big deal.

    I'm going to be a single adventurer. I'd probably marry someone to kill him/her later. Hopefully there's more cliffs to push people over.

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    As long as it's not like the Fable 2 system...I have bad memories there.

    Me: Hey. I'm gonna go out for a bit.
    *2 days later*
    *Wife wants sex*
    *goes back to satisfy her*
    *goes back 2 days again to same area*
    *Wife wants sex again*
    *rinse and repeat for about 4 times*
    *Goes out to an area that takes 7 days to get to and go back to oakfield*
    Wife: I want a divorce, and there's nothing you can do to change my mind!
    Me: What the fu-k!?

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    Bethesda released an official video demo to IGN, all cleaned up and pretty and all that with no annoying crowds. It's a whole lot of the same stuff we've already seen. There are a couple things I don't remember, but whether that means they weren't shown or not is another matter. Even still, very cool. I can't wait for this game. It's going to be a long two months.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    I do hope Skyrim turns out to be better than Oblivion. I tried playing Oblivion and I just didn't enjoy it.
    That was actually my first impression as well, but I stuck with it simply because I spent $30 on a GotY copy. Once you get used to the leveling system and figure out the combat it actually becomes quite enjoyable.
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    The dragons are the main draw for me to this game. I have Oblivion and played it for a little bit but it gets boring quick I think. Random dragon attacks sound awesome though. Heard the PC port of Oblivion wasn't very good, here's hoping Skyrim is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    I do hope Skyrim turns out to be better than Oblivion. I tried playing Oblivion and I just didn't enjoy it.
    Oblivion sucks tremendous amounts of all around bad design.

    So let's all hope that Skyrim is an independent and unrelated product.

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    I enjoyed Oblivion once I got into it enough though I'm really hoping for a really improved sequel with Skyrim since Oblivion's flaws are glaring and obvious.

    So, any idea what type of character everyone wants to play yet? I figure I'll focus on a Two-handed Nord myself. I thought I'd have to choose between a war-hammer and a claymore, but since two-handed is one skill now instead of blunt and blade, I can just switch between which is better throughout the game.

    Why two-handed? If dragons are the main enemies of the game, I'd hardly want to go into battle with a butterknife.

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    I'm surprised that so many people seem to have disliked Oblivion. I found it a bit slow getting into it at first, but it's a short lived issue (and the leveling system killed me), but the overall game design seemed fine to me. The trick for me was to start working on one of the guild quest lines. Those send you all over and sufficiently pull you into the game. The sheer size and depth of the world I think is what I love more than anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    I enjoyed Oblivion once I got into it enough though I'm really hoping for a really improved sequel with Skyrim since Oblivion's flaws are glaring and obvious.

    So, any idea what type of character everyone wants to play yet? I figure I'll focus on a Two-handed Nord myself. I thought I'd have to choose between a war-hammer and a claymore, but since two-handed is one skill now instead of blunt and blade, I can just switch between which is better throughout the game.

    Why two-handed? If dragons are the main enemies of the game, I'd hardly want to go into battle with a butterknife.
    I sort of want to tinker with archery since I never really got into it on any of my Oblivion characters. Spells always seemed easier. But yeah, killing a dragon with a dagger doesn't sound very appealing. I'll still probably favor larger one handed weapons in order to take advantage of the right/left hand system the game uses.

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    Well, there were a lot of problems for me. One was the butt-ugly character design, which I had a hard time getting over. Another was the first-person perspective, also something I just couldn't get into. I spend all that time designing a character then all I can see are her hands? That annoyed me, and I didn't like that kind of combat either. (which I'm glad to hear that apparently in Skyrim they're making 3rd-person perspective a lot better)

    And this may just be a newb problem, but knowing next to nothing about the lore of the world I had a hard time getting into the story, which just sort of throws you out there.

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    I never minded the first person thing at all really. It's how the game was built to be played afterall. And the whole lore of the game sinks in once you dive deeper and deeper into it.

    The best thing I like about Oblivion is all the stories, especially ones that either over arch eachother or lets you know more about a specific place or person. My main problem was just the execution. The stories make themselves look more grand than it should be. The only one that seemed to live up to its hype was a simple quest in where you buy a haunted house. I love how that one ended. The rest? Mage's guild was terribly disappointing due to all that fantastic buildup being concluded with an incredibility lame battle with the "King of Worms" in a generic cave. He was just an old man that you can drown to death. And I didn't like how Dark Brotherhood choose to end up. It was really fun at first.

    I'm hoping this game makes major differences between enemies and "bosses".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    Well, there were a lot of problems for me. One was the butt-ugly character design, which I had a hard time getting over. Another was the first-person perspective, also something I just couldn't get into. I spend all that time designing a character then all I can see are her hands? That annoyed me, and I didn't like that kind of combat either. (which I'm glad to hear that apparently in Skyrim they're making 3rd-person perspective a lot better)

    And this may just be a newb problem, but knowing next to nothing about the lore of the world I had a hard time getting into the story, which just sort of throws you out there.
    Seriously? Complaining that a first person game is first person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    Well, there were a lot of problems for me. One was the butt-ugly character design, which I had a hard time getting over. Another was the first-person perspective, also something I just couldn't get into. I spend all that time designing a character then all I can see are her hands? That annoyed me, and I didn't like that kind of combat either. (which I'm glad to hear that apparently in Skyrim they're making 3rd-person perspective a lot better)

    And this may just be a newb problem, but knowing next to nothing about the lore of the world I had a hard time getting into the story, which just sort of throws you out there.
    I admit the character design system wasn't much to brag about. But even Dragon Age has the same sort of problem when you don't use the default design.

    As for the lore thing, like Hiroy said, you just get immersed as you play. Going for the main quest line right away isn't really the way to play the game. I think the best thing to do is fast travel to a town and get involved in a guild and start doing one of those quest lines and talk to random people in the process. Before you know it you're totally immersed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroy View Post
    I never minded the first person thing at all really. It's how the game was built to be played afterall. And the whole lore of the game sinks in once you dive deeper and deeper into it.

    The best thing I like about Oblivion is all the stories, especially ones that either over arch eachother or lets you know more about a specific place or person. My main problem was just the execution. The stories make themselves look more grand than it should be. The only one that seemed to live up to its hype was a simple quest in where you buy a haunted house. I love how that one ended. The rest? Mage's guild was terribly disappointing due to all that fantastic buildup being concluded with an incredibility lame battle with the "King of Worms" in a generic cave. He was just an old man that you can drown to death. And I didn't like how Dark Brotherhood choose to end up. It was really fun at first.

    I'm hoping this game makes major differences between enemies and "bosses".
    I have to agree with you about some of the ending quests. Very lackluster. To do all the various sneaky assassinations for the DB (it took me so long to kill someone with a poisoned apple lol) and then end with fighting some idiot in open combat just to appease the plot of it was quite lame. The final arena fight is also really lame if you do the quest for the orc before hand. The fighter's guild one was pretty cool, though, and the thieves guild one was freaking great. The final quest for the thieves guild to steal the scroll is one of my fondest memories of that game.

    But yeah, I have to agree with you now that I think about it. The so called "bosses" were very unimpressive the majority of the time. They weren't much better than normal fodder guys in most cases. I think dragons should help to fix that, at least.

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    Jesus, watching some of the streams of the leaked version makes me lose faith in humanity. It is like they have never played video games before... Anyway, in one week I shall be an Orc, crushing skulls with a 2h axe. FUS RO DAH!

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    I'll be playing a Dunmer,wielding fireballs and a sword.
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