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    Finding Nemo is my favorite (fishtank forever!) but I think their best is Wall*E.

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    List time?

    1. Up
    2. Coco
    3. Ratatouille
    4. Incredibles
    5. Toy Story

    Onward is the worst, beating out Brave by making a really cool premise unbelievably bland. I haven't seen Cars 2 or 3, by the way, so they for sure could be worse.

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    I'm not a big animated movie guy per se, but I happened to watch Wall-e this week. This is easily my favorite animated movie ever. It's gorgeous, adorable and I love hard science fiction. Choosing a star trek-like setting for an animated kid's movie is a brilliant idea. Even for a kids movie, it raises interesting questions and is actually intellectually stimulating. That's what's so great about science fiction. There's no evil mustache-twirling bad guy (as much as I love those), just an auto pilot. There's no malice to be found anywhere in the movie. The world just is as it is and it's up to everyone to make it better.
    The only thing I didn't like, which is a pet peeve of mine, that every single movie apparently needs to have love story shoehorned in. Even worse here since it's an actual robot. Though thankfully the two are completely adorable together. Honestly I think it's way more beautiful and pure if characters just become very close because they grow to like each other, rather than a cliche emotion basically forcing them to be together.

    I'm pretty sure no animated movie is ever going to top this one for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Onward is the worst, beating out Brave by making a really cool premise unbelievably bland.
    Onward and Brave had their problems but at least they were complete films with a third act and an actual story unlike the two-act scenery-porn The Good Dinosaur turned out to be.
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    Oh wow, I watched Onward like 2 weeks ago and had literally forgotten it even existed or that I had watched it.

    Yeah, it's not great.

    Good Dinosaur is pretty forgettable.

    Brave is memorable for being a huge dissapointment. That first trailer, man, I had hopes. I didn't think Pixar was going to put out Princess Mononoke or Shadow of the Collosus, but I thought they were trying something in that ballpark.

    Then they changed the director and it turned into Brother Bear 3.



    I mean, maybe the plot was *always* going to be "The mom turns into a bear" but it really, REALLY doesn't feel like the first half was setting that up specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    Onward and Brave had their problems but at least they were complete films with a third act and an actual story unlike the two-act scenery-porn The Good Dinosaur turned out to be.
    Hm, Good Dinosaur was pretty bad, too. In fact it had almost no value besides how pretty it was. The thing about all three of them is that I never wanted to see them ever again so maybe a tier structure is more appropriate.

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    Toy story 3 is the one that resonated the most with me, I was just at the right age bracket I guess.

    Bugs life was a viewing mess, as the friend who took me to see it was overcaffeinated or something that day and wanted to annoy me for no reason.

    I can not get through the part of the army of rats cooking, sorry nope, my suspention of disbelief ended with Remy, no matter how much you clean that many rats, a bunch of people should have died in that restaurant.

    Up has a lot of venezuela in there, the whatever waterfalls are the angel falls, largest in the world, natural wonder, patrimony of mankind, and had a nice begining, but we know that- SQUIREL

    Coco I managed to watch in Netflix before Disney+ started, granted, cine experience is better, and I can imagine this one hitting the hardest if you are close or have lost recently a loved one. But even without that is beautiful and magestic.

    Monsters Inc and U, fine, toy story 1 and 2 fine, Wall-e fine (this one no cine as well), nemo and dori fine, cars was background noise, can't say or tell anything about it. I don't believe I've seen any other of them.
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    A Bug's Life was fun, mostly for the characters, and that's fine. It just suffers from constant comparison to superior Pixar films.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPhil View Post
    I'm not a big animated movie guy per se, but I happened to watch Wall-e this week. This is easily my favorite animated movie ever. It's gorgeous, adorable and I love hard science fiction. Choosing a star trek-like setting for an animated kid's movie is a brilliant idea. Even for a kids movie, it raises interesting questions and is actually intellectually stimulating. That's what's so great about science fiction. There's no evil mustache-twirling bad guy (as much as I love those), just an auto pilot. There's no malice to be found anywhere in the movie. The world just is as it is and it's up to everyone to make it better.
    The only thing I didn't like, which is a pet peeve of mine, that every single movie apparently needs to have love story shoehorned in. Even worse here since it's an actual robot. Though thankfully the two are completely adorable together. Honestly I think it's way more beautiful and pure if characters just become very close because they grow to like each other, rather than a cliche emotion basically forcing them to be together.

    I'm pretty sure no animated movie is ever going to top this one for me.
    Like I said, Wall*E is the best.

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    Did you say list time?

    1. Coco (I'm mexican after all)
    2. Inside Out.
    3-4. Ratatouille - Wall-e
    5-6. Finding Nemo - Monsters Inc.

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    Somehow missed this over a month ago:



    Not an actual second trailer, but another peek. Certainly felt "soulful".

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    Pixar showing the beauty of simply playing the piano:



    This is releasing on Disney+ on the 25th, so since I won't be visiting family I'll either be watching this or Boston Ballet's The Nutcracker.

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    I'm pretty excited for Soul. Hope it gets the bland taste in my mouth left from Onward's mediocrity.
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    John Batiste is so cool:


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    Soul was good. Not top-tier Pixar, but still good. I'd give it 8 or 9 out of 10.

    As with a lot of Pixar movies, the trailer only gives away maybe the first third of the movie, so you can expect some surprises.

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    I greatly enjoyed Soul. The "soul world" and how it works is quite a bit more complex than any alternate world that Pixar's done before, and many of its elements raise questions that aren't super easily answered - which can feel distracting at times, even though the film does slightly lampshade it. However, imo the scenery's handled just well enough to deliver a solid message - one that really rang with me given how this year has forced me to think about the direction of my life and passions.
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    Famous Pixar Soul movie was fun and had some of that classic """Pixar Magic™™™.""" Some good emotional scenes, positive animations and cool-looking animation on occasion. I still really dislike the blue blob soul people designs, they are hard for me to look at, especially the baby souls. There's some aspects of the ending I didn't like, and some humor was decades stale, but nonetheless among the best Pixar, which is to say 7/10.

    I will hate when it nabs undeserved wins from uncaring judges over Wolfwalkers, but it's the best Pixar's been since Inside Out.

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    I really wanted to love Soul, but it ended up leaving me feeling really frustrated.

    On the one hand, the visuals are absolutely gorgeous to look at, the soundtrack by Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross was amazing and it tells a really deep story about not letting your hobby define your life...

    ...but on the other hand, I found myself getting constantly annoyed that,
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    for the vast majority of the film, Pixar's first POC protagonist is either turned into a blue spirit or a cat, while his black body is voiced by Tina Fey, a white woman (even if the character of 22 isn't explicitly coded as white.)

    I really don't understand why Hollywood seems to have this trend of taking black people as the main characters, something that you don't see that often in animated movies, and then repackaging them into an animal and/or creature (Tiana as a frog, Lance Sterling as a pigeon and now Joe Gardner as a soul/cat) for the majority of the film's runtime.

    Do they think POC leads in animated movies aren't marketable or something? If that's the case, how is it that other POC leads like Moana from, well, Moana and ESPECIALLY Miles Morales from Into The Spider-Verse didn't get that treatment and were STILL received with critical acclaim from critics and audiences?

    I mean, imagine if any other studio made Into The Spider-Verse, they would have had Miles Morales get transformed into a literal spider 10 minutes into the movie and he stayed that way for the majority of the film.
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    Pixar just did a movie with a brown kid and super into a very specific culture the entire time in Coco, so I don't think its about "we can't have a colored lead for the entire movie" as a rule as much as it is an... unfortunate coincidence.

    Princess and the Frog was thirteen years ago. If it was this year yeah there'd be a conspiracy.
    Consider that between Disney and Pixar, they've also had a native american turn into a bear, a scottish woman turn into a bear, a white guy turned into a beast, a Mayan turned into a llama, and entire films where a minoirty doesn't transform into anything like Mulan or Lilo and Stitch or Aladdin.

    They've also had entire films where a white actors play a rat, or cars, or a robot, or fish or lions.

    I don't think its really as explicitly as much of a trend as you think. Especially in cases where they're taking an explicit fairy tale that involves a transformation like Frog Prince.

    And any decision to change Will Smith into not Will Smith is purely a humor gag, not something to mess with the biggest star in a given film.
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    I really wanted to love Soul, but it ended up leaving me feeling really frustrated.

    On the one hand, the visuals are absolutely gorgeous to look at, the soundtrack by Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross was amazing and it tells a really deep story about not letting your hobby define your life...

    ...but on the other hand, I found myself getting constantly annoyed that,
    Spoiler:
    for the vast majority of the film, Pixar's first POC protagonist is either turned into a blue spirit or a cat, while his black body is voiced by Tina Fey, a white woman (even if the character of 22 isn't explicitly coded as white.)

    I really don't understand why Hollywood seems to have this trend of taking black people as the main characters, something that you don't see that often in animated movies, and then repackaging them into an animal and/or creature (Tiana as a frog, Lance Sterling as a pigeon and now Joe Gardner as a soul/cat) for the majority of the film's runtime.

    Do they think POC leads in animated movies aren't marketable or something? If that's the case, how is it that other POC leads like Moana from, well, Moana and ESPECIALLY Miles Morales from Into The Spider-Verse didn't get that treatment and were STILL received with critical acclaim from critics and audiences?

    I mean, imagine if any other studio made Into The Spider-Verse, they would have had Miles Morales get transformed into a literal spider 10 minutes into the movie and he stayed that way for the majority of the film.
    I mean in the interest of fairness the Spider-Man mythos is weird as hell and Peter was once turned into a Spider monster in the books and some of the TV shows. That aside to your question Iím pretty much of the same mind as Robby Pixar movies have a usual premise they follow with people getting turned into creatures or monsters Iím not of the mind they have a mind of thinking that minority leads arenít marketable.

    At least til someone comes out revealing that someone in the company comes out airing dirty laundry.
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    I know that Soul is the superior movie, but I just watched onwards and I'm still crying after crying twice

    Spoilers for both:
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    Once for a stupid van.

    The final act of soul comes to a halt for me when its revealed that 22 did take to heart the awful things that all their mentors have been telling them. On one hand you have the soul crushing aspect of the "best" people in history judging you worthless, but then finding pride of it and protecting yourself from the world from it, I dunno, the way that 22 acted all the movie being above what the bunch of losers tought of them, I can understand Joe after all they went through. I dunno, the moment catches me off guard, even if it makes perfect sense. It also kinda reminds me of something that happened to me last year, so in this case seeing a character suffering for the same mistake that I made (caring about the oppinion of uncaring and unimportant people) made me angry and took me out of the movie.

    Onward feels like a celebration of the past, memory and family, while soul is a touching tale about what is life and the pain of living, that you don't know what is to come, that no one does, and that is ok.



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