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    lol the Trench is cancelled. 1 of the few I really wanted to see too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobodyman View Post
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    And I do think the movie suffers from a bit of a tone problem. At times it expects (some of) the characters and audience to be outraged by the experiments and deaths involving innocent people, but then it'll turn around and make jokes like "Weasel's killed 27 children" or Suicide Squad accidentally killing a band of freedom fighters. And then, despite wanting to save everyone at the end, they have basically no reaction to all the Starro corpses.
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    Idunno, I thought the movie juggled things ok, but maybe I'm just good at compartmentalizing. Like, Weasel might be on a team, but not all inmates need be equally sympathetic, and Weasel specifically is a disgusting weasel creature that no one likes, and who dies pathetically and early as a big joke. The freedom fighters is a real dark joke, but it is done by accident to actual combatants and the squad do feel bad about, it as opposed to performance of horrible human experiments on innocents with deliberate intent. Beyond finding the Starro corpses horrifying and wanting to stop Starro from making more of them on the civilians I'm not quite sure what you're reffering to; They could've shown more distress at them after beating Starro maybe, but then you'd lose the triumphant ending, and the movie compromises by not lingering on civilian suffering, or showing piles of child corpses. Beyond the hanged children in the beginning whihc is shown as explicitly horrifying, I don't think I saw any dead kids at all.
    Anyway, I totally get why it wouldn't work for everyone, but for me it had enough dexterity in what it did and didn't show, what it did and did not have the Squad approve of consciously doing, that it worked for me. I can fit the movies recurrent statements of deliberate/intended violence to children = bad (its repeated a lot), as well as it informing the backstory of a disgusting weasel-man whos misfortune I laugh at, at the same time. I do think the post credits scene whiffs it a bit though, Weasel should've been killed again as a punchline.

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    I had some silly fun watching TSS but some of the writing had it's perks with me. Harley is a character that I almost whish was gone, since her trope has been done to death and the writing here was so agressively straight it took me out of the scenes a bit. The floral sequence was awesome, though. Top notch.

    King Shark, Polka Dot Man, Bloodspot and Pacifier were great. The last two the main force of the film together with Flag.

    Viola Davis delivered to absolutely no one's surprise.

    To this day thinking about the lettering scenes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
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    Idunno, I thought the movie juggled things ok, but maybe I'm just good at compartmentalizing. Like, Weasel might be on a team, but not all inmates need be equally sympathetic, and Weasel specifically is a disgusting weasel creature that no one likes, and who dies pathetically and early as a big joke. The freedom fighters is a real dark joke, but it is done by accident to actual combatants and the squad do feel bad about, it as opposed to performance of horrible human experiments on innocents with deliberate intent. Beyond finding the Starro corpses horrifying and wanting to stop Starro from making more of them on the civilians I'm not quite sure what you're reffering to; They could've shown more distress at them after beating Starro maybe, but then you'd lose the triumphant ending, and the movie compromises by not lingering on civilian suffering, or showing piles of child corpses. Beyond the hanged children in the beginning whihc is shown as explicitly horrifying, I don't think I saw any dead kids at all.
    Anyway, I totally get why it wouldn't work for everyone, but for me it had enough dexterity in what it did and didn't show, what it did and did not have the Squad approve of consciously doing, that it worked for me. I can fit the movies recurrent statements of deliberate/intended violence to children = bad (its repeated a lot), as well as it informing the backstory of a disgusting weasel-man whos misfortune I laugh at, at the same time. I do think the post credits scene whiffs it a bit though, Weasel should've been killed again as a punchline.
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    My brain is very particular when it comes to dark stuff, to the point I'm not even sure what sets off my dislike sometimes. In regards to the Starro victims, I guess I really just hated seeing all those innocent people die and it kinda dampened the triumph of the climax for me.

    That said, if I gave this movie a second or third watch, I might be totally okay with it. Sometimes I just need time to process things and shrug "Eh, it's just a movie".

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    Loved the movie alot. Gore, humor, character arcs, alot of characters, non sky beam finale.

    I didn't watched Birds of Prey, so the Harley parts were really refreshing and good. More of that quality DC please.
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    Warner shouldn't comply at releasing Ayer's cut of SS, throwing off the least trashy version of things is going to make them go in circles and never ever learn from their mistakes.

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    I watched Snyder Cut, don't see the drastic difference. It is insensitive, but I see the Snyder movement being more based on the horrific passing of his daughter and not as much for his creativity being messed with. This is not the first time a creative had their work tampered with. When the idea 1st started to make its rounds, I seen the slippery slope. Every director is using this as a part of their marketing campaign when their newer projects in motion.

    Alan Taylor (Dark World) and Ayer before him are the more recent ones. It's like a fast food restaurant deciding to push a food I don't like. I just don't buy it. Not gonna feel the need to be against it.

    What is interesting is that Warner (not their studio WB is known for setting trends

    - The Burton/Schumacher films and the Puzo Superman films before them set the tone for live action CB films.

    - Blade's (New Line is under Warner just like WB is) success is partially responsible for the Singer and Raimi films getting their greenlight and budget

    - Nolan films conquered the mid to late 00s as Marvel Studios were trying to learn from F4, Singer and Raimi in order to jumpstart the MCU. Feige has said that, as a producer on most of them (Fox, Sony, and other Marvel films), he got to be a student. Part of why he loved bringing in Raimi when they parted ways w/ Dickerson. He refers to Nolan's Batman as the "best thing".

    - On the live action series side, Warner has set the tone with Lois & Clark, Smallville and having the first LA CB universe (Arrowverse) that reach back to simultaneously canonize and pay homage to former live action series.

    - On the animated series front, Batman and Superman TAS, Teen Titans, Static and Justice League's impact outweigh the multiple Marvel series I love. Avengers UTS, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, 92 and 2000s X Men, Semper's Spidey (the best 1) are all solidified.

    - Then there's the animated films... I do not get why Marvel gave up on the effort there. Those 08-2015 films are just not touching the DC based animated films. Some have alleged their live action films being so dominant since 2010 as why they put no effort towards the animated film world. Big Hero 6 and Into The Spiderverse (Sony) are great films and should have been delivered earlier. Warner has just been way more consistent than other companies that handle Marvel projects.

    The only reason why Disney did Big Hero 6 was because it was obscure. Disney has a Story Trust that works in house for them luckily came across Big Hero 6 and put it together. As much as people criticize Warner for being conservative, every company with studios are. Especially Disney with their PG ratings and attempts to not have anything mess up their precious MCU. If the speculations are true and their Marvel based animated films lacking an aggressive effort due to not interfering with the MCU, then that is arbitrary. Warner has shown more freedom with their Arrowverse model despite being ridiculously strict to their showrunners with which characters and storylines can be used.

    Warner has just been overall more influential with their formulas. Blade is a Marvel film that helped justify the 1st huge Marvel films and that was done by 1 of Warner's studios. Puzo, Nolan, and Burton/Schumacher films are not what started comic book films, but they are the standard for what Marvel looks at when making what Scorsese says isn't cinema. Smallville and Arrowverse predate the ABC and Netflix Marvel shows. Many of the writing team from Batman TAS ended up working on Spencer's animated Spidey series which is still peak Marvel series to me from that medium.

    Point is, even if I don't like the trend, I gotta give Warner the credit for being the ones to constantly jump out the window for comic book adaptations. Their constant mishaps have resulted in more experimentation than other studios for CB adaptations like Joker. I would like to see more non Marvel or DC projects from other comic book platforms. Invincible was dope and I have to find time for Sweet Tooth.


    8/17/21 update

    Last month, DC's next animated film was announced for the Fall. Based on the Injustice game and it's prequel comic.

    Cast and crew

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    The upcoming Injustice animated film voice-stars Justin Hartley as Superman, Anson Mount as Batman, Laura Bailey as Lois Lane and Rama Kushna, Zach Callison as Damian and Jimmy Olsen, Brian T. Delaney as Green Lantern, Brandon Michael Hall as Cyborg, Edwin Hodge as Mr. Terrific and Killer Croc, Oliver Hudson as Plastic Man, Gillian Jacobs as Harley Quinn, Yuri Lowenthal as Mirror Master, Flash and Shazam, Derek Phillips as Nightwing and Aquaman, Kevin Pollak as Joker and Jonathan Kent, Anika Noni Rose as Catwoman, Reid Scott as Green Arrow and Victor Zsasz, Faran Tahir as Ra’s al Ghul, Fred Tatasciore as Captain Atom, Janet Varney as Wonder Woman, and Andrew Morgado as Mirror Master Soldier.


    Rick Morales, known for Mortal Kombat Legends: Scorpion’s Revenge, is producing. Justice League Dark‘s Matt Peters is directing from a script by Batman: Hush scribe Ernie Altbacker. Also producing is Jim Krieg, with Sam Register executive producing.


    Today, Catwoman: Hunted has been confirmed for early 2022. Shinsuke Terasawa is directing from a script by Greg Weisman.

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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...dc-1234985568/
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/catwoman-hunted-voice-cast-dc-1234998303/


    8/20 Update

    Black Canary has been confirmed as another 1 of the 3 HBO Max films in development. Lovecraft Country showrunner Misha Green is writing with Jurnee Smollett back as Black Canary.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...tt-1235000948/
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    Just watched The Suicide Squad, what a fun, crazy movie. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

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    Itagaki Paru's Suicide Squad Poster:

    The way she draws human eyes totally nail the zaniness of Harley.

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    If Harley ever gets a manga, she's the one to do it.

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    I finally saw the movie on HBOMAX
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    We've already seen half of it, but hey, still some new stuff:



    Curious to know if that's Riddler narrating all of it, or just the first part.

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    Oh snap, main theme snippet?! Really nice to hear an organic orchestra for this piece.

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    Michael Giacchino is turning into like the Gen-X John Williams.

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    I've loved Michael Giacchino since his work on Lost - beautiful music, I own all the soundtracks. Very cool to see that he has turned into such a successful Hollywood composer.

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    Next year stacked

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    Both DC and Marvel are stacking too much.

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    In DC’s case they’re trying to play catch up…..again.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Regrettably, I'm interested in these films. I think my greatest interest lies with The Flash and Black Adam. The former invites the return of Michael Fucking Keaton as Batman-89 so I'm definitely curious not to see his acting but also see if they put elbow grease into replicating Tim Burton's style. I will cry if we don't get that batshit crazy art deco and German Expressionist love child again.

    I'm also interested in Black Adam because it might be set on Earth-2. If DC is going for greater connectivity again then I'm hoping we'll see if this is the same Earth-2 from the Stargirl series, since there's no repeated members for the two JSAs yet.
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