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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    haha they aren't earning enough money, take that Znydar !
    Considering this movie isn't exactly good, but is a step in the right direction, I'm kinda sad it's not making money. I'd have liked if it would make slightly more than BvS but not blow anyone away.

    I'm worried they're gonna take the wrong message from this and instead of going "We've been royally screwing up these movies for the most part, maybe we should try harder" they'll go "welp, I guess nobody likes DC. Time to pack it in"


    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    The world has never hated Superman. I thought it was pretty clear people just had mixed feelings. The majority loved him. I mean, he even had a national funeral... because he saved the world---- twice ????
    Bruce and Lex the world
    He'd only saved the world once that we saw by the time of BvS, and the destruction caused during that was a big part of the conflict.

    So, I guess:

    - Holly Hunter's Senator Character
    - Military Folks Working with Lex on the Kryptonite
    - Whoever Spary Painted "False God" on the Superman Statue
    - Guy who blew himself up in that Senate Hearing
    - Some of the pundits during the news montage who clearly had an Anti-Superman poistion

    All... don't count?

    There's a saying in film called "Show Don't Tell" Which basically means that the actions of the characters we see are more valuable to conveying a message than exposition telling or showing us that something happened off screen.

    Only two things happen in BvS to show Superman was ever held up as a good thing by anyone.

    1: The brief montage we got of him saving stuff and a few people. He saved that rocket and giant oil tanker, but they never showed the human side of that. Like the Astronauts walking about and thanking him or anything. The two shots we actually get in the montage of him saving actual human beings are more interested in playing up the "Superman is a God" symbolism than actually showing that he cares. When he flies that girl out of the burning building, he puts her down among the huge crowd of people and then NOBODY, including Superman seems to care about her at that point. The scene is now focused on showing everyone worshiping Superman. Same from the only other part of the montage like this where he saves those people from that flood on the top of their house. We don't see him actually save them, they show the imagery of him descending from the heavens and the people reaching up and then it cuts.

    Spoiler:
    Compare this to Justice League, which while not perfect, had a few great moments. Like the opening where he actually talks to those two kids. He's fucking Superman, but he took a moment to talk to two kids? That's the kind of thing that makes people trust you. Also, later in the movie we actually see Superman prioritize saving people. There's that part where Batman is like "we gotta fight Steppenwolf and keep him away from Cyborg" and Superman goes "But the people outside..." and Batman goes "It's ok, Flash is on it" and Superman realizes Flash won't make it in time so he flies off to help with that first.
    I wish we'd gotten to see him interact with the people he saved, but just showing him care like that was a step in the right direction


    2: The statue of him existing at all. This one is intentionally undercut by the "False God" spraypaint.

    What I'm saying is, we only got two movies of Superman before he died at the end of one of those movies, and in that time we got:

    - Movie where nobody really knows who he is.
    - Movie where all the main plot's actions and characters indicate they are at least not too terribly happy with him and are questioning if he should exist at all, some of which seem to outright hate him.

    We as an audience were never given a chance to actually EXPERIENCE the part where he was apparently a hopeful inspiration to people. Which is why it feels like everyone just hates him and it's weird that suddenly that all just goes away when he dies.

    Really, Angry Joe summed this up pretty well in he and the Nostalgia Critic's review of it. It feels like they didn't earn the Death of Superman.

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    And tbh, Superman is a demigod, it's enough reason to worship him. On the other hand, why people didn't worship Diana back in WW1 ? uhu.....
    Because they made it very clear she dropped out of the public eye after that?...

    Also, "Because he's basically a god" is an awful reason for people to worship him.

    People shouldn't WORSHIP him like a god, that would make Lex... right...

    If you really think that you don't understand Superman at all. He's a character who represents hope. Zack Snyder understood this on SOME level because of the whole "The Superman Logo means Hope" stuff in Man of Steel.

    There's a reason some of the best Superman moments aren't him getting to punch a big Monster, but instead are smaller moments where he shows kindness.

    THIS is Superman.

    THIS is Superman.

    THIS is Superman!

    THIS is Superman!

    And especially THIS is Superman.


    People shouldn't just bow down before him because he's an all powerful god, he needs to earn the trust and love of the world. He needs to stand as that symbol of kindness and hope he is. That's built up over time in the comics. That the movies put no effort into showing us he's done.

    Superman needs to be the kind of guy who saves people. The kind of guy who takes a moment to help a depressed girl thinking of Jumping, the kind of guy who gives up a lifetime of happiness with a wife and son who love him to stop the bad guy, and still feel the heartache of losing a child despite knowing he isn't real. Superman needs to be the kind of person who invites his teammates to spend the Holidays with him so they won't have to be alone.

    They needed to EARN that. Especially before killing him for the Death of Superman to have the impact it's supposed to have.


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    Yes lol this is exactly what Bruce said, and has nothing at all to do with the pathetic interpretation.
    What? I just used that as an example of Bruce being Clark's biggest advocate and Cheerleader through the entire movie.

    I mean seriously...
    Spoiler:
    Even Wonder Woman wasn't so sure about resurrecting him, but Batman, the guy who wanted to kill him until very recently, has ABSOLUTELY NO reservations about bringing him back from the dead?.... Along with his sudden turn at the end of BvS during the MARTHAAAAAAA Scene, it just feels like Batman turned from hating Superman to loving him a bit too easy.

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    There needed to be like two movies between MoS and BvS for any of what they were going for to have any weight.

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    Justice League was better than the rest of the DCU movies sans Wonder Woman, but yeah. It shows what happens when you don't put in the work of world- and character-building before jumping into the team-up movie. Nothing carried any weight at all. This shouldn't be our introduction to Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman. Maybe one of them (Cyborg), not all. There's absolutely no excitement of seeing all these heroes together. Especially since they were all basically just stalling for time for Superman to come back and clean up their mess. There were clunky attempts at humor and lightness but it also shows that WB has no idea with what they're trying to accomplish with this shared universe. Man of Steel was modeled after Nolan's Batman movies, but now they're trying to shift gears on the fly and copy the MCU, and it creates a tonal mess. The incompetency of Snyder's writing and directing just compounds it.

    Steppenwolf really outdoes a lot of MCU villains for how terrible he is. I can't believe how bad the CGI was for him, and God knows what he was even trying to accomplish.

    The box office for this movie is soft, but not crippling, as they had to expect this somewhat with it still having the Batman v Superman stink on it. Whatever the case we're going to be seeing a hell of a lot more Wonder Woman. Hopefully they use her as a model for how to handle standalone movies for the other superheroes, rather than just giving up on all of them and overusing Wonder Woman to the point of saturation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbo View Post
    Steppenwolf really outdoes a lot of MCU villains for how terrible he is. I can't believe how bad the CGI was for him, and God knows what he was even trying to accomplish.
    I know right?

    Maliketh is typically held up as the absolute worst Villain Marvel has to offer and at least he had a cool fight scene. The teleporting during the fight was pretty cool and memorable.

    What did Steppenwolf have?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    Considering this movie isn't exactly good, but is a step in the right direction, I'm kinda sad it's not making money. I'd have liked if it would make slightly more than BvS but not blow anyone away.

    I'm worried they're gonna take the wrong message from this and instead of going "We've been royally screwing up these movies for the most part, maybe we should try harder" they'll go "welp, I guess nobody likes DC. Time to pack it in"
    Considering how bad the reviews of BvS were, I'm not surprised in the slightest how bad the JL is doing in terms of income.

    As for DC/WB dropping the DCCU. I don't think it's gonna happen any time soon.



    So, I guess:

    - Holly Hunter's Senator Character
    - Military Folks Working with Lex on the Kryptonite
    - Whoever Spary Painted "False God" on the Superman Statue
    - Guy who blew himself up in that Senate Hearing
    - Some of the pundits during the news montage who clearly had an Anti-Superman poistion

    All... don't count?
    They do-- but as Henry Cavill said in the movie "not everyone thinks like" Bruce (scene at Lex Luthor's banquet or whatever it was).

    Also, people like him now because I guess they found out Lex Luthor was making him look like a baddy from all along--- and Superman is actually a nice guy.
    They forgave him about destroying Metropolis because urgh this time he didn't ? Anyway, everyone knows he's a good guy now and I don't even get why it's a criticism about JL because it was settled at the end of BvS.


    Only two things happen in BvS to show Superman was ever held up as a good thing by anyone.

    1: The brief montage we got of him saving stuff and a few people.
    2: The statue of him existing at all. This one is intentionally undercut by the "False God" spraypaint.
    Zack Snyder's Superman isn't canon. And I always thought the characters were gonna change. I had no problem at all with the dark tone because I was pretty much sure the characters were gonna get through some chara-developments


    Because they made it very clear she dropped out of the public eye after that?...
    The people who fought alongside her during the war were like "uhh, she's just a strong women. Also, her father is Zeus, I'll just drop a punchline and forget about it during the rest of the movie and eventually treat her like a naive child when she'll say who the villain is and all"


    Also, "Because he's basically a god" is an awful reason for people to worship him.
    No ?? At least not in in the Snyder-universe. Anyway, it's just a moral judgment I guess


    What? I just used that as an example of Bruce being Clark's biggest advocate and Cheerleader through the entire movie.
    I'm talking about Martha.
    The hate is sticking to "haha Martha" even though we've been saying since the movie was released that it's not only about the same name. Just like Affleck said in this movie "yeah uhu he's super-human, has a gf, a mom and all--- and he's nice etc". Even though it was poorly executed of course.

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    Steppenwolf has exactly one (1) decent moment: "Please, I have a family!" "Why do people keep telling me that?"

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    I thinl only the comicbook fans are mad at Steppenworlf's weapon not being explained or what, because I couldn't care less wtf it was.

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    Wonder Woman worked, I have no doubt the sequel will too. James Wan is a very competent director, so I don't think Aquaman won't be entertaining. The Batman by Matt Reeves should be good. Now that Justice League is out, hopefully the stank from the Snyder movies will go away, and they can finally put out a string of good movies.

    And I actually enjoy a majority of Snyders movies, yes even Sucker Punch, which for me was just a cool long live action anime music video, lol. But yes, he just was the wrong choice for setting the tone for the dceu and be the main driving force as director of these huge comic characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    They do-- but as Henry Cavill said in the movie "not everyone thinks like" Bruce (scene at Lex Luthor's banquet or whatever it was).

    Also, people like him now because I guess they found out Lex Luthor was making him look like a baddy from all along--- and Superman is actually a nice guy.
    They forgave him about destroying Metropolis because urgh this time he didn't ?


    Anyway, everyone knows he's a good guy now and I don't even get why it's a criticism about JL because it was settled at the end of BvS.
    Again, Show Don't Tell.

    It's a valid criticism of JL because it's a loose end that BvS left open that JL did nothing to address. It flat out ignored it.

    It's like when people criticize the part in Star Wars where Yoda tells Luke Skywalker he needs to complete his training before confronting Vader so he can't leave yet, Luke Leaves anyway, and then when Luke comes back in Return of the Jedi, Yoda is like "Nevermind, you already leared everything you need to know"

    It can be explained away, and I'm pretty sure there are EU novels and comics that came up with an explanation. Pretty sure Yoda gave Luke Jedi holocrons so he could train on his own before coming back, but just because you can rationalize and explain it, doesn't mean the film makers didn't drop the ball in conveying that to the audience in the movies themselves.


    Now, in this case I actually like the end result. I LIKE that Batman and Superman are just friends in the movie. It brings them more in line with where I think they should be as characters and what I wanted to see in an adaptation of them, but BvS still exists and when judged as a sequel to BvS is where I think this counts as a failing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    Zack Snyder's Superman isn't canon. And I always thought the characters were gonna change. I had no problem at all with the dark tone because I was pretty much sure the characters were gonna get through some chara-developments
    That's my entire issue.

    We got very little character development for Superman here, and what we did get in Man of Steel was reverted in BvS.

    He spends most of MoS unsure of himself. Contemplating if he should be this savior for the people of the world or not. His arc for this movie ends with him embracing his role as savior. This is shown both symbolically when he puts on the suit and then works his way up to flying in that scene, and then at the end he flat out tells that general "Hey, here's your crumpled up drone. Trust me, I'm here to do good".

    They completely ignored this in BvS and reverted him back to mopey and unsure for seemingly no reason. I've gone to great lengths before on how this hurts Superman's character arc, undoes what good MoS DID do, and ultimately works against the primary conflict of BvS before. I don't really want to repeat myself.



    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    The people who fought alongside her during the war were like "uhh, she's just a strong women. Also, her father is Zeus, I'll just drop a punchline and forget about it during the rest of the movie and eventually treat her like a naive child when she'll say who the villain is and all"
    What? She never told anyone she was Zeus' daughter. She didn't know until the final battle with Ares.

    Also, every time she told someone Ares was responsible for the War they thought she was Crazy and/or naive and they ended up being right. Ares wasn't responsible for mankind going to war in general.

    Also, I love how her acting naive and being amazed by things in the modern (Compared to Themyscira) world equate to being "Childish" to you. Sorry, but this is how someone would act in Diana's shoes.

    She lived her entire life on an island of Amazons with ancient Greek era technology and never seeing any person other than herself who wasn't already an adult.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    No ?? At least not in in the Snyder-universe. Anyway, it's just a moral judgment I guess
    The entire thematic situation Zack Snyder is going for in the movies, which is very very clear because he basically beats you over the head with it is:

    "Can the world trust a being as powerful as Superman? What if a godly being like him decides to just kill everyone?"

    This is why Holly Hunter didn't like him, this is why Lex Luthor didn't like him, and this is why Batman didn't like him.

    "If we think there is even a 1% chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an ABSOLUTE certainty"

    The entire point of these movies is supposed to be Superman gaining the trust of the people of the world.

    If people are just supposed to worship him because he has Godlike powers, then in what way does that prove Lex Luthor Wrong? In what way does that prove Pre-MARTHA! Batman wrong?

    They needed to SHOW US him doing good things and proving he has a moral and kind character in order to SHOW the audience Batman and Lex were wrong. One montage of him saving a few people that is more interested in playing up the god imagery than showing that he cares for the people he's saving did not accomplish that.

    We REALLY needed like 2 movies between MoS and BvS, at minimum to demonstrate this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    I'm talking about Martha.
    The hate is sticking to "haha Martha" even though we've been saying since the movie was released that it's not only about the same name. Just like Affleck said in this movie "yeah uhu he's super-human, has a gf, a mom and all--- and he's nice etc". Even though it was poorly executed of course.
    Really a lot of this is also poor execution. A LOT of it.

    The "MARTHAAAA" thing gets rightly mocked because of poor execution. I GET what they were going for, but they did nothing to work towards it.

    "MARTHAA" was supposed to snap Batman out of seeing im as an inhuman alien monster and cause him to see the human side of Clark. I get that. It's just awful in its execution.

    RIGHT before this as Batman is dragging Superman to where he's going to stab him, he says:

    "I bet your parents taught you, that you mean something. That you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson. Dying in the gutter. For no reason at all.

    They taught me the world only makes sense, if you force it to."


    I know they included this line because it was in The Dark Knight Returns and this whole movie was Zack Snyder trying to adapt that movie while still making it about Superman as best he can, but that line is part of what ruins the "MARTHAAA" scene because here's Batman FLAT OUT SAYING he knows Clark was raised by adopted human parents.


    Then there's the really stupid awkward way they had Clark shout "MARTHAAA" like that. They just REALLY needed him to say her name out loud like that. He knows Batman knows who he is by now. So why is he just saying her first name? Why not "My Mother"? Or if he didn't know Batman knew his secret by now, what about "Martha Kent?" How the fuck is Batman supposed to just know who "Martha" is?!

    It's because Zack Snyder REALLY needed him to dramatically shout "MARTHAA" like that.

    It was sloppy and akwward and came across REALLY REALLY dumb so I mock it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    I thinl only the comicbook fans are mad at Steppenworlf's weapon not being explained or what, because I couldn't care less wtf it was.
    Uh, what?

    Spoiler:
    I don't want a freaking explanation of what the Axe was in and of itself, what I want is an explanation for why he had NO PROBLEM controlling the Parademons before it was destroyed, and then AFTER it gets destroyed, suddenly he loses control of them and they attack him.

    Why does this happen? Why did the Parademons attack him? I focus on the axe because destroying it SEEMS to be what caused this, but the movie does nothing to explain this. They were never trying to break the axe specifically. Splitting up the Mother boxes was their goal. They just somehow got super lucky and destroying the axe caused the Parademons to turn on him.... for some reason...

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    I thought BvS was fine, the action in the end is sort of a saving grace for me. Suicide Squad was unbelievably bad, what were they even thinking, bad. Haven't watched Wonder Woman yet.

    JL is good, although it comes through short in some parts. Steppenwolf lacks depth and most of the suspense vanishes when they bring Supes back. I expected at least a threatening power up, or Stepp realizing Supes is alive and digging out some kryptonite from wherever.

    But like some have said already, it's a nice step forward.

    Oh yeah, action was pretty fun, but it felt like it was done routinely in some parts. You know, short sequences without a lot of thought put into them. At this age, after so many action movies with great fighting scenes, I always expect something a little more creative.
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    So, yeah, I liked it. It was good, not great.

    A live-action Justice League movie featuring Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg, with fitting actors to boot, was good, not great. I would say it's a complete waste if I didn't at least have fun.

    At least it was better than SS and BvS. By leaps and bounds. Mostly because the heroes had great chemistry with one another and the battles were well done. Yeah, the choreography and editing was hard to follow some, thanks to the CGI, but you get used it, or at least I did. But, seriously, the characters made the movie worthwhile. The plot was there because it had to be. It does nothing to contribute to the enjoyment of the film, but does everything to take away from it.

    Side note, the movie was even a little funny. Looking forward to future movies featuring the characters. I don't know who's getting a standalone movie besides Aquaman but I kinda hope Flash and Cyborg get thrown in there somehow because does every one of these characters really need their own movie at this point? Isn't it a little too late for that now?

    Also, can we finally get MoS2???
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    Justice League was a hot mess that I didn't mind watching because I love Diana, Victor, and Barry so god damn much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilitch View Post
    The world has never hated Superman. I thought it was pretty clear people just had mixed feelings. The majority loved him.
    Like you they didn't love him they had mixed feelings. Pretty much any part about superman where about how people where still trying to make up their mind on him. Then he died and everyone decided he was already an icon.

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    Saw JL last night. Really lukewarm on it. Most of the new actors feel right for their character. Iíve always liked Jason Momoa, so I guess his performance captivated me the most. Also, Henry feels like Superman, at last. I guess thatís the highest praise I can give it. I know Steppenwolf has always been dull as fuck in the comics, but did it have to be so in the movie too? Whatís even the point of making him a bad guy if he canít carry a story on his own?

    Iím sort of glad they left all the pretentiousness of BvS where it belonged, it made watching JL a lot more bearable. But..: was there even a theme to this movie? Even one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strooger View Post
    Saw JL last night. Really lukewarm on it. Most of the new actors feel right for their character. I’ve always liked Jason Momoa, so I guess his performance captivated me the most. Also, Henry feels like Superman, at last. I guess that’s the highest praise I can give it. I know Steppenwolf has always been dull as fuck in the comics, but did it have to be so in the movie too? What’s even the point of making him a bad guy if he can’t carry a story on his own?

    I’m sort of glad they left all the pretentiousness of BvS where it belonged, it made watching JL a lot more bearable. But..: was there even a theme to this movie? Even one?
    You know, mid movie, it felt like it was going to be about Batman, and him discovering that he doesn't need to have superpowers to be the one who can lead. Who others can look up to. But it just gets dropped, or doesn't have enough emphasis to be something noticeable.

    One other thing that bothered me was JL planning. The Amazons supposedly can't leave Themiscyra, but nothing like that was mentioned about Atlanteans. So how come "let's revive Superman" instead of "let's call 20 Atlantean warriors" is the first thing that crosses Batman's mind? I know not all of them are hybrids like Aquaman, but they (could) have suits ffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    You know, mid movie, it felt like it was going to be about Batman, and him discovering that he doesn't need to have superpowers to be the one who can lead. Who others can look up to. But it just gets dropped, or doesn't have enough emphasis to be something noticeable.
    Yeah youíre right. And it doesnít need a moral of the story type thing. It could have had a decent payoff if only the Batman action at the end was sort of interesting. Like, Batffleck beat the shit out of a bunch of Parademons who corner one of the other heroes and sorta prove his worth. Itís weird how clumsy and dull the Batman action is this movie. Considering him fighting goons in the last movie was the best part of that one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    One other thing that bothered me was JL planning. The Amazons supposedly can't leave Themiscyra, but nothing like that was mentioned about Atlanteans. So how come "let's revive Superman" instead of "let's call 20 Atlantean warriors" is the first thing that crosses Batman's mind? I know not all of them are hybrids like Aquaman, but they (could) have suits ffs.
    Then again, Superman is infinitely more useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strooger View Post
    Then again, Superman is infinitely more useful.
    Of course he is, but by the time the possibility of resurrection is on the table, they could have considered calling for mermen. Not to mention mermen themselves ended up being pretty passive about the thingie they kept safe for eons being stolen.

    Not to mention JL attacked Stepp without knowing whether Superman will come or not. What was Bat's contingency plan on that?





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    He had no plan whatsoever, Batman is a deception in this movie. He has shown himself to be pretty much pointless when it comes to fighting and now he doesn't even have a plan... Why is even part of the team again ? ohhh yeah money--- it wasn't just a joke after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Of course he is, but by the time the possibility of resurrection is on the table, they could have considered calling for mermen. Not to mention mermen themselves ended up being pretty passive about the thingie they kept safe for eons being stolen.

    Not to mention JL attacked Stepp without knowing whether Superman will come or not. What was Bat's contingency plan on that?





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