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    Egawa Tatsuya = Uwe Boll of manga

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    For that matter, Matsui is supposed to draw a manga of his reaction to eating Araki's pasta for LIVE, isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    I'll just refer one of my old posts.

    What a jewel. I'll later look up on his works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    What a jewel. I'll later look up on his works.
    You probably know this one already


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    What a jewel. I'll later look up on his works.
    Let me give you this beauty.
    These are panels out of a Kamen Rider manga he was commissioned to do.
    Yes, this is straight out of a published book.






    By the way, Egawa is by no means a shitty artist.
    He's done some really nice work in the past. He just has no respect or give a shit about quality here.

    Yes, Togashi has done similar things in WSJ, but Togashi doesn't come on TV to boast about himself, nor does he constantly talk shit about other manga artists. Not to mention Togashi is doing it on his own work, not pissing on work of a classic manga artist.

    BTW, this pissed off Shimamoto Kazuhiko, a fellow veteran manga artist (Gyakkyo Nine, Burning Transfer Student) so much, he verbally slammed Egawa for this on his radio show, and said "If you don't want to do it... DON'T TAKE THE JOB!". Shimamoto is a long time vocal fan of Kamen Rider and the creator Ishinomori, so he was particularly offended by this.
    Last edited by Aohige_AP; August 1st, 2013 at 08:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    Youngest mangaka debut ever for shounen manga: Yumi Horibe, at 14 years old. Weekly Shounen Jump 33, 1997
    Youngest mangaka debut ever for shoujo manga: Sho Kitagawa, at 13 years old. Bessatsu Margaret, 1981

    Horibe Yumi was a short lived one, but Sho Kitagawa went on to become a seinen manga veteran on Young Jump.
    wow...at 14!!..pity she didn't become a established mangaka....thanks for the info..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    Youngest mangaka debut ever for shounen manga: Yumi Horibe, at 14 years old. Weekly Shounen Jump 33, 1997
    Youngest mangaka debut ever for shoujo manga: Sho Kitagawa, at 13 years old. Bessatsu Margaret, 1981

    Horibe Yumi was a short lived one, but Sho Kitagawa went on to become a seinen manga veteran on Young Jump.
    Of course I'm not insunuating this was the case since I don't know the dates and whatnot, but I just had this thought.

    If a person who is not yet fully of age, like say 14, would submitt material that would be considered for publication only for the 18 plus market (not directly meaning any kinda sexual explicitness, just somehow gets a rating like that, more likely in the West I think but you hopefully know what I mean)

    can the company to whom they submitted this work legally publish it ?

    And then if they would, would it be illegal to send out a contributors copy to the author ?

    And could the creator be actively prohibited by police (like the recent scandal in Australia where a group of like six plainclothes officers jumped on the hood of the car of a 20 year old student, one of them brandishing a gun, on the suspicioun of her buying bear (later proven false no less), who then still had the gall to try and get her charged for resisting arrest, thankfully it was thrown out) from purchasing a copy of a work they have authored ?

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    That problem basically can't exist.
    There's no "rated R" manga. Only pornographic adult manga are restricted from being sold to minors.
    Meaning, there's nothing preventing a minor from buying a volume of Berserk, for example.
    And adult pornography market is prohibited from employing a minor, of course.

    So the case you suggest can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    That problem basically can't exist.
    There's no "rated R" manga. Only pornographic adult manga are restricted from being sold to minors.
    Meaning, there's nothing preventing a minor from buying a volume of Berserk, for example.
    And adult pornography market is prohibited from employing a minor, of course.

    So the case you suggest can't happen.
    I said I think it's more likely to be possible in the west, so that's where I'm coming from, but asking here because people round here are generaly very well versed in pretty much anything related to this medium and whatnot :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    So um

    Who wants to cook pasta with Araki (Jojo) and Matsui (AssClass, Neuro)?

    http://i.imgur.com/pMlu8fk.jpg
    I want to see a collab manga between these two.

    Araki doing the poses, and Matsui doing the faces.

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    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    Assassination Classroom and Shokugeki no Soma are both fantastic new series that have been doing incredibly well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    Where's that thread with the preposterous claim that Shonen Jump is dying again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    Well right now WSJ has this 6 recent and stable titles:
    - Assassination Classroom (Always a Top 3, in the rankings)
    - Shokugeki no Soma (Always a Top 5, in the rankings)
    - Psi Kusuo Saiki (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - Nisekoi (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - Haikyuu (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - World Trigger (Lately, 9 issues from now, is always a Top 10, in the rankings)

    Has this 3 older and stable titles:
    - Beelzebub (Always in the middle of the titles rankings, normally in the low edge of Top 10)
    - Bleach (Lately, highly variable between bottom and middle of the titles rankings)
    - Gintama (Just like Bleach!)

    Has this 4 super popular titles:
    - One Piece (last 7 times in the rankings, one time ranked in 2nd the rest all in 1st)
    - Toriko (Lately gets a lot of color pages and when ranked is normally in the Top 3)
    - Naruto (Ranks a lot of times in the Top 3)
    - Kuroko no Basket (Recently decreased in the rankings, but is still in the higher edge of the middle of the rankings)

    And has this irreplaceable elder:
    - Kochikame

    This make 14 stable titles of the average ~17 titles being ranked each week. If you consider that normally 3 series are cancelled each meeting, there is no more safe places in the roster for a new series.

    With this, if a new series really wants to survive, it have this options:
    - Dethrone a new/older stable series(or that series stops being stable and dethrones herself! That would be sad).
    - Kochikame ends!!!
    - WSJ make his series roster bigger. WSMagazine and WSunday have around 25 series in their rosters, but WSJ only have 20(Maybe because of the regular One Shots the magazine have?)
    - WSJ starts canceling less series.

    The last three options are really hard to happen. So the only really option is for the new series to be a really good series that can outdo other series. For me all the current series are damn good, it would be a shame if one of them ended. Naruto and Bleach are the exception, but they certainly aren't ending right now.
    I understand the excitement of a new super good series, but that can't happen all the time. I wish I would be reading WSJ when OP, Naruto, Bleach, Death Note, Bakuman, Toriko, ... had just began, but unfortunately I didn't :(. Be patient, enjoy the current series, after a lot of new series cancellations, certainly some series will stay for good.
    Just last year 4 new good series entered WSJ(Haikyuu, Psi Kusuo Saiki, AssClassroom, Shokugeki no Soma) and this year 1 new good entered too(World Trigger), I guess that is awesome, and now is the time to let this series mature and become even better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Hermit View Post
    Where's that thread with the preposterous claim that Shonen Jump is dying again?
    I don't know where the thread is anymore, but here is the video!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigivel View Post
    Well right now WSJ has this 6 recent and stable titles:
    - Assassination Classroom (Always a Top 3, in the rankings)
    - Shokugeki no Soma (Always a Top 5, in the rankings)
    - Psi Kusuo Saiki (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - Nisekoi (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - Haikyuu (Always a Top 10, in the rankings)
    - World Trigger (Lately, 9 issues from now, is always a Top 10, in the rankings)

    Has this 3 older and stable titles:
    - Beelzebub (Always in the middle of the titles rankings, normally in the low edge of Top 10)
    - Bleach (Lately, highly variable between bottom and middle of the titles rankings)
    - Gintama (Just like Bleach!)

    Has this 4 super popular titles:
    - One Piece (last 7 times in the rankings, one time ranked in 2nd the rest all in 1st)
    - Toriko (Lately gets a lot of color pages and when ranked is normally in the Top 3)
    - Naruto (Ranks a lot of times in the Top 3)
    - Kuroko no Basket (Recently decreased in the rankings, but is still in the higher edge of the middle of the rankings)

    And has this irreplaceable elder:
    - Kochikame

    This make 14 stable titles of the average ~17 titles being ranked each week. If you consider that normally 3 series are cancelled each meeting, there is no more safe places in the roster for a new series.

    With this, if a new series really wants to survive, it have this options:
    - Dethrone a new/older stable series(or that series stops being stable and dethrones herself! That would be sad).
    - Kochikame ends!!!
    - WSJ make his series roster bigger. WSMagazine and WSunday have around 25 series in their rosters, but WSJ only have 20(Maybe because of the regular One Shots the magazine have?)
    - WSJ starts canceling less series.

    The last three options are really hard to happen. So the only really option is for the new series to be a really good series that can outdo other series. For me all the current series are damn good, it would be a shame if one of them ended. Naruto and Bleach are the exception, but they certainly aren't ending right now.
    I understand the excitement of a new super good series, but that can't happen all the time. I wish I would be reading WSJ when OP, Naruto, Bleach, Death Note, Bakuman, Toriko, ... had just began, but unfortunately I didn't :(. Be patient, enjoy the current series, after a lot of new series cancellations, certainly some series will stay for good.
    Just last year 4 new good series entered WSJ(Haikyuu, Psi Kusuo Saiki, AssClassroom, Shokugeki no Soma) and this year 1 new good entered too(World Trigger), I guess that is awesome, and now is the time to let this series mature and become even better.



    I don't know where the thread is anymore, but here is the video!

    Pretty sure there are 20 manga running in jump at any given time. And also we have no idea how HxH factors into series slots anymore, so there's that as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    are we reading the same series?cause im pretty positive there are plenty of series that are doing fantastic .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    I'm not gonna even bother repeating the same shit I've been posting, and pretend I never saw your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend of Luffy and Gon View Post
    I am rereading Dragonball and there has definitely been a decline in WSJ in the past few years, markedly since Naruto and Bleach started turning horrible. I would like some good new stuff to come out that isn't going to be cancelled in a few weeks. Am I asking too much of modern WSJ?
    if you can't look beyond your love for OP and HxH and hate for Naruto and Bleach,you are in no position to ask WSJ for more...do you even try..?

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    So it looks like there's a new series in Jump this week? Anyone know where to find the raws?
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