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    Speaking of manga doing well, Oricon rankings (from mangahelpers).

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    June 3-June 9

    01. One Piece #70 (2,019,094 / 2,020,490) (6 days official release date anyways I think)
    02. Bleach #59 (405,097 / 405,482)
    03. Worst #32 (140,595)
    04. Claymore #24 (135,605 / 135,756)
    05. Shokugeki no Souma #2 (134,842) (4 days)
    06. Nisekoi #7 (133,733)
    07. Sket Dance #31 (127,101)
    08. Medaka Box #21 (90,814)
    09. Tegami Bachi #16 (84,547)
    10. Shingeki no Kyojin #10 (66,958 / 1,057,952)
    11. Shingeki no Kyojin #1 (62,848 / 1,556,230)
    12. Shingeki no Kyojin #4 (62,719 / 1,353,628)
    13. Shingeki no Kyoijn #3 (62,601 / 1,478,044)
    14. Shingeki no Kyojin #5 (61,898 / 1,308,633)
    15. Shingeki no Kyojin #9 (60,589 / 1,110,146)
    16. Shingeki no Kyojin #6 (60,342 / 1,257,268)
    17. Shingeki no Kyojin #2 (60,025 / 1,518,599)
    18. Shingeki no Kyojin #8 (59,829 / 1,145,713)
    19. Shingeki no Kyojin #7 (59,259 / 1,170,246)
    20. Kanshikan Tsunemori Akane #2 (56,500)
    21. Ai Dano Koi Dano #6 (45,890)
    22. Aku no Hana #8 (43,988)
    23. Kekkai Sensen #7 (33,718)
    24. Tomehanee! Suzuri Koukou Shodou-bu #11 (31,221 / 100,969)
    25. Inu×Boku SS #9 (30,457 / 332,884)
    26. Ajin #2 (30,056)
    27. Deadman Wonderland #12 (29,629 / 202,721)
    28. Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt #2 (29,537 / 96,050)
    29. Sankarea #8 (27,951)
    30. Magi #17 (27,561 / 476,251)
    31. Baki Gaiden Kizuzura #2 (26,783)
    32. Jojolion #4 (25,673 / 448,697)
    33. Hinoko #2 (25,631)
    34. One Piece #69 (24,351 / 2,997,890)
    35. Jisatsutou #9 (23,237 / 74,170)
    36. Shokugeki no Souma #1 (23,008 / 225,513)
    37. Ohkami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji #6 (22,137 / 146,764)
    38. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (21,598 / 661,071)
    39. Hoozuki no Reitetsu #9 (21,400 / 178,967)
    40. Meiji Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu #4 (20,959)
    41. Pandora Hearts #20 (19,891 / 107,611)
    42. Switch Girl!! #22 (19,594 / 98,018)
    43. Naniwa Tomo Are #24 (19,130)
    44. Yuru Yuri Special Edition #10 (19,102 / 43,957)
    45. Wild Wing (17,494)
    46. Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou #1 (17,358 / 135,639)
    47. Terra Formars #5 (16,679 / 351,699)
    48. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #4 (16,385 / 591,823)
    49. Himitsu no Ai-chan #10 (15,858 / 105,787)
    50. Zetusen no Tempest #9 (15,772 / 154,418)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo View Post
    Speaking of manga doing well, Oricon rankings (from mangahelpers).

    Spoiler:
    June 3-June 9

    01. One Piece #70 (2,019,094 / 2,020,490) (6 days official release date anyways I think)
    02. Bleach #59 (405,097 / 405,482)
    03. Worst #32 (140,595)
    04. Claymore #24 (135,605 / 135,756)
    05. Shokugeki no Souma #2 (134,842) (4 days)
    06. Nisekoi #7 (133,733)
    07. Sket Dance #31 (127,101)
    08. Medaka Box #21 (90,814)
    09. Tegami Bachi #16 (84,547)
    10. Shingeki no Kyojin #10 (66,958 / 1,057,952)
    11. Shingeki no Kyojin #1 (62,848 / 1,556,230)
    12. Shingeki no Kyojin #4 (62,719 / 1,353,628)
    13. Shingeki no Kyoijn #3 (62,601 / 1,478,044)
    14. Shingeki no Kyojin #5 (61,898 / 1,308,633)
    15. Shingeki no Kyojin #9 (60,589 / 1,110,146)
    16. Shingeki no Kyojin #6 (60,342 / 1,257,268)
    17. Shingeki no Kyojin #2 (60,025 / 1,518,599)
    18. Shingeki no Kyojin #8 (59,829 / 1,145,713)
    19. Shingeki no Kyojin #7 (59,259 / 1,170,246)
    20. Kanshikan Tsunemori Akane #2 (56,500)
    21. Ai Dano Koi Dano #6 (45,890)
    22. Aku no Hana #8 (43,988)
    23. Kekkai Sensen #7 (33,718)
    24. Tomehanee! Suzuri Koukou Shodou-bu #11 (31,221 / 100,969)
    25. Inu×Boku SS #9 (30,457 / 332,884)
    26. Ajin #2 (30,056)
    27. Deadman Wonderland #12 (29,629 / 202,721)
    28. Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt #2 (29,537 / 96,050)
    29. Sankarea #8 (27,951)
    30. Magi #17 (27,561 / 476,251)
    31. Baki Gaiden Kizuzura #2 (26,783)
    32. Jojolion #4 (25,673 / 448,697)
    33. Hinoko #2 (25,631)
    34. One Piece #69 (24,351 / 2,997,890)
    35. Jisatsutou #9 (23,237 / 74,170)
    36. Shokugeki no Souma #1 (23,008 / 225,513)
    37. Ohkami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji #6 (22,137 / 146,764)
    38. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (21,598 / 661,071)
    39. Hoozuki no Reitetsu #9 (21,400 / 178,967)
    40. Meiji Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu #4 (20,959)
    41. Pandora Hearts #20 (19,891 / 107,611)
    42. Switch Girl!! #22 (19,594 / 98,018)
    43. Naniwa Tomo Are #24 (19,130)
    44. Yuru Yuri Special Edition #10 (19,102 / 43,957)
    45. Wild Wing (17,494)
    46. Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou #1 (17,358 / 135,639)
    47. Terra Formars #5 (16,679 / 351,699)
    48. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #4 (16,385 / 591,823)
    49. Himitsu no Ai-chan #10 (15,858 / 105,787)
    50. Zetusen no Tempest #9 (15,772 / 154,418)
    so volume 1 of Souma only sold 225,513 copies...i expected more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    so volume 1 of Souma only sold 225,513 copies...i expected more...
    I don't think you even understand how this works.
    225k for first volume when there's only two out is freaking amazing.

    I mean like really amazing. Like Death Note level amazing.
    In fact as far as I know, in all the comic releases in Japan in the past several years, AC and Silver Spoon is the only ones with such a high sale start.
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    If Oda is really that sick, I would absolutely support taking a whole month off, or even more.

    Just read this, though published on May 21st, it still made me sad:

    In a previous interview, Oda once described his usual workday: "I get up at 5am, and I work until 2am. It's normal for me to sleep from 2am to 5am." He added, "I have no days off. If I had them, I'd want to go on vacation with my family. I just want to go outside, it doesn't matter where. See, I don't get out much."

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    ODA, KEEP WORKING OR

    thats how his editor looks like, guys, tottaly.
    Think happy thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    I don't think you even understand how this works.
    225k for first volume when there's only two out is freaking amazing.

    I mean like really amazing. Like Death Note level amazing.
    In fact as far as I know, in all the comic releases in Japan in the past several years, AC and Silver Spoon is the only ones with such a high sale start.
    well AC volume 1 sold around 600k,so i thought Souma will come close....though AC1 is out in the market for 2-3 more months that Souma...so i guess it will eventually come close...

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    Why does Bleach rank so low?Sure our diagnose is that it sucks,but same is true for Naruto,bu it continues ending up in the top 5.

    So what's the reason behind Bleach's fall in popularity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Why does Bleach rank so low?Sure our diagnose is that it sucks,but same is true for Naruto,bu it continues ending up in the top 5.

    So what's the reason behind Bleach's fall in popularity?
    easy: naruto is at its climax and brought a lot of fan favorites back so more folks are paying attention to it. bleach has been a dragfest so it has been riding on the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Why does Bleach rank so low?Sure our diagnose is that it sucks,but same is true for Naruto,bu it continues ending up in the top 5.

    So what's the reason behind Bleach's fall in popularity?
    Because like I've been saying, contrary to popular belief around here that bunch them together, Bleach is 10x more awful than Naruto but then we have cool series like Beelzebub at he bottom for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Why does Bleach rank so low?Sure our diagnose is that it sucks,but same is true for Naruto,bu it continues ending up in the top 5.

    So what's the reason behind Bleach's fall in popularity?
    eh!Bleach is actually doing good....in 2011-2012 it regularly ranked in the bottom half,close to bottom 5...had Souma,AC,PSI debuted back then it would have been regular to bottom 5.....
    Naruto only suffering in ranking now due to the popularity of new mangas...until 2012 it kept it's top 3 positions most of the weeks....

    Naruto never alienated it's core fan base...it's yearly sale remained more or less intact...in 2011 it sold 6.5m+,in 2012 6m+ and this year too it is close to 3m in half yearly estimation...while Bleah steadily lost it's fanbase...
    my analyisis is Kubo's too frequent erratic plotlines went to the point of disgusting to the matured fan who had grown up with it...Naruto's main plotline(Naruto chasing Sasuke) remained same,though became silly more often than not...but Kishi always managed to introduced interesting new characters..like Raikage and Co.,old man Tsuchikage,Danzo,then trollkage(2nd mizukage) in the war arc,finally Madara....even he made great characterisation of Madara-Hashi friendship(some of which lost in bad translation)and Tobirama's maturity...so mediocre main-story was often shielded from great protagonists and antagonists(and their side stories).....so most of the older fans remain with..
    Kubo lost in this ground heavily...his new characters have had very little to no attraction.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    In fact as far as I know, in all the comic releases in Japan in the past several years, AC and Silver Spoon is the only ones with such a high sale start.
    Didn't Bakuman start off with high sales too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sander View Post
    Why does Bleach rank so low?Sure our diagnose is that it sucks,but same is true for Naruto,bu it continues ending up in the top 5.

    So what's the reason behind Bleach's fall in popularity?
    Bleach has never reached the same popularity Naruto has. In fact, "the big three", this tired concept that western fandom tried to cling for some reason until today, is pretty much just a myth.

    Bleach always stood at the upper middle tier of succesful Shueisha manga, let alone the whole manga industry. It reached its peak of popularity somewhere late 2008/early 2009 barely not making it over the 1 million sold copies with volumes 36 and 37. Never again has it reached such numbers and was on a gradual decline ever since up until the end of the Aizne fight were it had a local peak with volume 48. It was a logical point to finish the story but Noriaki-kun decided otherwise. The new Fullbring arc was received without any sort of excitement, and the decline of Bleach changed from gradual to an exponential one, reaching an all time low with volume 52. Afterwards, with the start of the new, supposedly last arc, its situation became more stable, but the lost part of the fandom was already gone for good - Bleach sales comfortably stopped somewhere around the 600 000 copies a volume.

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    ●BLEACH│ 初動. (日)│ 2週計| 3週計| 4週計| 5週計┃  累計 (日数)┃ 発売日.│タイトル
    │****** (5)│******│******│******│******┃*,519,631 (287)┃2008/02|BLEACH 32
    │430081 (3)│593057│645966│674141│694977┃*,802,692 (227)┃2008/04|BLEACH 33
    │425366 (3)│653772│715029│752420│775683┃*,874,153 (136)┃2008/07|BLEACH 34
    │442514 (3)│613467│679775│712695│733671┃*,800,242 (*73)┃2008/10|BLEACH 35
    │551006 (4)│696224│751547│******│824251┃*,955,085 (354)┃2008/12|BLEACH 36
    │607616 (5)│741225│786896│816680│835835┃*,947,022 (327)┃2009/02|BLEACH 37
    │476611 (3)│681808│743979│774251│796671┃*,892,236 (269)┃2009/04|BLEACH 38
    │532553 (4)│667580│716711│743508│761166┃*,845,560 (207)┃2009/06|BLEACH 39
    │589661 (6)│716640│764476│788279│802861┃*,857,687 (146)┃2009/08|BLEACH 40
    │414722 (3)│600888│665630│694633│712204┃*,743,662 (*59)┃2009/10|BLEACH 41
    │475911 (3)│638210│685679│714623│******┃*,822,401 (353)┃2009/12|BLEACH 42
    │441333 (4)│576654│624629│652578│671221┃*,760,433 (291)┃2010/02|BLEACH 43
    │410245 (3)│590209│641778│671321│690820┃*,785,709 (269)┃2010/04|BLEACH 44
    │465713 (3)│603498│648577│672928│------┃*,769,697 (171)┃2010/06|BLEACH 45
    │548912 (5)│655093│690978│710147│------┃*,781,003 (145)┃2010/08|BLEACH 46
    │*63733 (0)│518556│603395│636289│657240┃*,690,119 (*49)┃2010/10|BLEACH 47
    │462154 (3)│635378│690064│719721│------┃*,845,791 (353)┃2010/12|BLEACH 48
    │425882 (4)│556383│614822│634827│646700┃*,714,990 (231)┃2011/04|BLEACH 49
    │387322 (3)│522155│567586│------│------┃*,682,527 (171)┃2011/06|BLEACH 50
    │400346 (4)│504537│544741│566661│------┃*,630,847 (109)┃2011/08|BLEACH 51
    │400253 (6)│486948│521548│542385│559891┃*,574,504 (*48)┃2011/10|BLEACH 52
    │248429 (3)│437357│491289│519851│539485┃*,640,938 (353)┃2011/12|BLEACH 53
    │269751 (3)│474084│528786│558837│------┃*,653,085 (262)┃2012/03|BLEACH 54
    │523875 (7)│604962│637362│------│------┃*,742,823 (168)┃2012/06|BLEACH 55
    │399510 (6)│489838│530169│553110│------┃*,600,915 (*76)┃2012/09|BLEACH 56
    │399278 (6)│489834│527593│553332│------┃*,637,516 (167)┃2012/12|BLEACH 57
    │432196 (7)│503811│535500│------│------┃*,597,301 (*77)┃2013/03|BLEACH 58

    │405482 (6)│------│------│------│------┃*,405,482 (**6)┃2013/06|BLEACH 59
    Meanwhile, Naruto's popularity hasn't experienced any changes of this sort, and didn't strongly fluctuate at all. The average sales numbers for its volumes reach 1 200 000 copies. There was a low point when it dropped below the million line with volume 58, but has recovered afterwards. Over the years, Kishimoto kept moving his story forward while keeping the attention of his fanbase - even if at the price of abandoning his earlier themes, characters and concepts.

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    ●NARUTO
    │  初動 (日)│ 2週計. | 3週計. | 4週計. | 5週計. ┃  累計 (日数)┃ 発売日.│タイトル
    │******* (5)│*******│*******│*******│*******┃*,707,447 (287)┃2008/02|NARUTO 41
    │*505506 (3)│*770368│*833184│*873732│*902185┃1,092,295 (199)┃2008/05|NARUTO 42
    │**97358 (0)│*832564│*979207│1036921│1072435┃1,188,881 (105)┃2008/08|NARUTO 43
    │**68456 (0)│*688739│*812612│*868662│*907256┃1,206,772 (384)┃2008/11|NARUTO 44
    │*710879 (5)│*884272│*944752│*985023│1013353┃1,231,168 (327)┃2009/02|NARUTO 45
    │*504024 (3)│*795179│*864708│*902993│*929691┃1,132,961 (241)┃2009/05|NARUTO 46
    │*783827 (6)│*961525│1034320│1069684│1092946┃1,208,466 (146)┃2009/08|NARUTO 47
    │*781619 (5)│*932100│*996398│1038935│1066694┃1,266,747 (383)┃2009/11|NARUTO 48
    │*799895 (7)│*928333│*983174│1015267│1037094┃1,216,031 (357)┃2010/01|NARUTO 49
    │*736467 (4)│*924059│*986014│1023967│1048728┃1,205,751 (298)┃2010/03|NARUTO 50
    │*618737 (3)│*855758│*918583│*952072│*976138┃1,152,871 (241)┃2010/05|NARUTO 51
    │*846206 (5)│1007569│1063820│1094042│1113307┃1,209,750 (145)┃2010/08|NARUTO 52
    │*819243 (4)│*973473│1030345│1067013│-------┃1,122,247 (*53)┃2010/11|NARUTO 53
    │*694023 (5)│*910636│*981289│1026437│1051326┃1,229,170 (327)┃2011/01|NARUTO 54
    │*650587 (4)│*848603│*943717│*976846│*997927┃1,131,672 (214)┃2011/04|NARUTO 55
    │*538406 (3)│*756666│*837416│*880292│*909219┃1,060,121 (171)┃2011/06|NARUTO 56
    │*716937 (4)│*894492│*961120│*993475│1013587┃1,090,567 (109)┃2011/08|NARUTO 57
    │*704610 (3)│*877012│*933239│*966213│-------┃*,986,182 (*24)┃2011/11|NARUTO 58
    │*668680 (3)│*881727│*946792│*989790│1013990┃1,192,100 (290)┃2012/02|NARUTO 59
    │*847826 (5)│*992290│1045584│1079979│1102222┃1,266,244 (201)┃2012/05|NARUTO 60
    │*706697 (3)│1016150│1115161│1164161│1187973┃1,281,309 (115)┃2012/07|NARUTO 61
    │*660402 (4)│*867361│*944148│*987220│1020176┃1,055,220 (*46)┃2012/10|NARUTO 62
    │*574373 (3)│*861704│*954885│*997213│1025294┃1,159,173 (167)┃2012/12|NARUTO 63
    │*648836 (4)│*840857│*914172│*959094│*994283┃1,024,073 (*46)┃2013/04|NARUTO 64
    The anime might have been a factor in this as well. Naruto has an ongoing series that doesn't catch up with the manga by doing lengthy filler arcs and gets decent rating. Bleach had a series for years as well, but it was much harder to maintain due to the density of its material - the chapter/episode ratio didn't allow to have a reasonable distance between the ongoing manga and anime. Its fillers wasn't as successful as well, and ratings were low as a result. So the anime series was cancelled, or stopped if you prefer, and it had some influence on the franchise popularity as a whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by GetsugaZoro View Post
    Because like I've been saying, contrary to popular belief around here that bunch them together, Bleach is 10x more awful than Naruto but then we have cool series like Beelzebub at he bottom for months.
    That's an elegant way to refute your own point.

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    I doubt 'big three' is just a 'a concept of western fandom'....sales speaks otherwise...Bleach is among top 10 highest selling mangas of all time,along with OP,Naruto,HxH and Kochikame(to think half of the list are still running,all in the same magazine!)....

    last month i saw here a list where estimated sale of Bleach totaled to 82m....it is running for 13 years...so that means an average of 6m+ a year...yet your data shows in past 5 years it averaged around 3m+.....so clearly there was a time when it was selling to the point of 7-8m/year...enough to be among top 3 most selling mangas of the year if that estimation was right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    I doubt 'big three' is just a 'a concept of western fandom'....sales speaks otherwise...Bleach is among top 10 highest selling mangas of all time,along with OP,Naruto,HxH and Kochikame(to think half of the list are still running,all in the same magazine!)....
    are you sure that it is among "top 10 highest selling mangas of all time" and not currently running WSJ manga?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hisoga View Post
    are you sure that it is among "top 10 highest selling mangas of all time" and not currently running WSJ manga?
    I remember the list being of the top ten of all time. A series as long as Bleach would definitely be in the top 10 of currently WSJ manga anyway.

    Here it is: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...e-volume-sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade View Post

    That's an elegant way to refute your own point.
    Yeah lol basicly I want to feel the japanese aknowledge Bleach being awful but I don't want to accept that in Beelzebub case :) .

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    Bleach is in the top 10 highest WSJ* selling series (Japan-only, lifetime, by total), circa February 2013. But Bleach's totals are inflated from its high number of volumes. 82.07 million sales over 57 volumes released in Japan leads to an average of about 1.44 million. To compare against a contemporary example, Naruto's at 131.28 million over 58 volumes, for an average of ~2.26 million. HXH is at 65.87 million over 32 volumes, or average of 2.05 million. And One Piece is a godly beast at 288 million over 68 volumes, for an average of 4.23 million.

    *I assume for portions published in WSJ; only comes into play when discussing JoJo's sales

    Edit: Kind of sad that ANN hasn't caught notice of the 2013 media guide from Shueisha yet.
    http://adnavi.shueisha.co.jp/mediagu...3/pdf/boys.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    I doubt 'big three' is just a 'a concept of western fandom'....sales speaks otherwise...Bleach is among top 10 highest selling mangas of all time,along with OP,Naruto,HxH and Kochikame(to think half of the list are still running,all in the same magazine!)....
    The length and running time of Bleach has certainly made it possible for it to be among the manag best sellers, that point stands and no one argues that. But that doesn't support the assumed "big three" at all. Even in Shonen Jack alone it was behind Hunter x Hunter, even despite it's unstable schedule, and behind Kochikame, due to its much more longer running history. Recently, Kuroko no Basket has also caught up with it thanks to its successful anime. If we look at Shueisha as a whole, there are more successful Blue Exorcist, Kimi ni Todoke and Nana. And that's just a single publisher.

    Quote Originally Posted by auem View Post
    last month i saw here a list where estimated sale of Bleach totaled to 82m....it is running for 13 years...so that means an average of 6m+ a year...yet your data shows in past 5 years it averaged around 3m+.....so clearly there was a time when it was selling to the point of 7-8m/year...enough to be among top 3 most selling mangas of the year if that estimation was right...
    I posted the Oricon numbers that are counted for every new volume since 2008. It doesn't take in account earlier volumes that are constanly on sale but don't make the weekly lists. The unaccounted few millions come from these.

    And the list you are talking about, I think most of us have seen it posted over here. For one it has only Shonen Jack data. Furthermore, it looks like that list fails to update any data that wasn't announced by Oricon. It is far from being a credible source.

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    A little while back we saw two different lists. One was by some unknown outlet that had some egregious mistakes (for example, it was way off on Dragonball). The other was straight from Shueisha's Media Guide 2013.

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    Oh, the 2013 Guide is out? Thanks for the link.

    Well, hopefully, if ANN or any other source of their caliber gets to it, they will use the guide to translate their info this time.

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