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    Well the people who vote in the rankings aren't the target audience for the Kuroko, also it helps that the anime is really popular.

    Also I'm glad Space Bros did so well

  2. #4462

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonicpoodle View Post
    I imagine this board with it's near-unanimous love of Magi is all quite happy It eludes me why Kuroko's Basketball is so popular. I've never read it so I can't really comment on that, though.
    It's four spots below fricken Fairy Tail though and this is simply inexcusable.

  3. #4463

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    Didn't One Piece and Naruto release 3 volumes each this year while Kuroko's Basketball released 5 volumes?

    FT being higher than HXH is blasphemy..Togashi get up and start writing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post
    I know but I still find it very awkward.
    It has seen increasingly higher rankings the last half year, so this could mean that they have increased their fanbase and you sell more when your increasing fanbase is catching up.

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    That is a realy kick-ass publicity.

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    I look forward to seeing hxh shoot up again in rankings when Togashi finishes levelling up o whatever rpg he is currently playing. If only he played beat em ups, like offline I mean, and with no friends or ranking systems. That way even if he chose to finish them on hardest with every character it would take him less time than an rpg might.

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    Dragon Quest X was recently released, and a remake of VII is coming in February. It's going to be a long time before Togashi comes back.
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    Is this talk about Togashi not working because of videogames true?

    This guy needs help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post
    I know but I still find it very awkward.
    Well, you can see it like this. Shonen Jump is highly popular and targeted mostly towards children, who buy the magazine every week, and then rate their favorite series. And then we have the volumes, who's sales sees an increase of older people buying them. So Kuroko but be popular with older folk, who don't read the Weekly magazine, but wait for each volume. I may be wrong, but that's the only explanation I can give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fogdark View Post
    Well, you can see it like this. Shonen Jump is highly popular and targeted mostly towards children, who buy the magazine every week, and then rate their favorite series. And then we have the volumes, who's sales sees an increase of older people buying them. So Kuroko but be popular with older folk, who don't read the Weekly magazine, but wait for each volume. I may be wrong, but that's the only explanation I can give.
    That is the case with One Piece. Not that it isn't popular in the rankings, but it sells a billion volumes because of older people. I might be wrong, but I wouldn't say that's the case with Kuroko, since it's a little too childish most of the times. That second place is probably because the start of the anime made all 20 volumes sell a whole lot.

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    Lol if I were married to Naoko Takeuchi I would rather spend my time shagging her than playing rpgs haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post
    Didn't One Piece and Naruto release 3 volumes each this year while Kuroko's Basketball released 5 volumes?
    Don't know about the others but One Piece had 4 volumes this year (65 to 68)

    HxH make it in the top 10 with... One volume (30) published during this period... !

  13. #4473

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    Kuroko sells because fujoshi strong

  14. #4474

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    Quote Originally Posted by fogdark View Post
    Well, you can see it like this. Shonen Jump is highly popular and targeted mostly towards children, who buy the magazine every week, and then rate their favorite series. And then we have the volumes, who's sales sees an increase of older people buying them. So Kuroko but be popular with older folk, who don't read the Weekly magazine, but wait for each volume. I may be wrong, but that's the only explanation I can give.
    I see..Based off this new list it must be the anime that increased the sales for it. People went back to buy the old volumes.

    Rank Cover Title Creator Estimated Copies Sold
    1 One Piece 65 Eiichiro Oda 3,336,992
    2 One Piece 66 Eiichiro Oda 3,320,744
    3 One Piece 67 Eiichiro Oda 3,044,901
    4 One Piece 68 Eiichiro Oda 2,390,625
    5 Naruto 61 Masashi Kishimoto 1,281,309
    6 Naruto 60 Masashi Kishimoto 1,266,244
    7 Kimi ni Todoke 15 Karuho Shiina 1,242,035
    8 Kimi ni Todoke 16 Karuho Shiina 1,212,883
    9 Naruto 59 Masashi Kishimoto 1,192,100
    10 Hunter X Hunter 30 Yoshihiro Togashi 1,090,309
    11 Kimi ni Todoke 17 Karuho Shiina 1,088,947
    12 Naruto 62 Masashi Kishimoto 1,055,220
    13 Blue Exorcist 8 Kazue Katō 865,836
    14 Silver Spoon 2 Hiromu Arakawa 813,989
    15 Attack on Titan 6 Hajime Isayama 777,445
    16 Blue Exorcist 9 Kazue Katō 743,381
    17 Bleach 55 Tite Kubo 742,823
    18 Thermae Romae IV Mari Yamazaki 721,456
    19 Silver Spoon 3 Hiromu Arakawa 710,387
    20 Attack on Titan 7 Hajime Isayama 690,233
    21 One Piece 64 Eiichiro Oda 682,057
    22 Silver Spoon 4 Hiromu Arakawa 673,210
    23 Bleach 54 Tite Kubo 653,085
    24 Yotsuba&! 11 Kiyohiko Azuma 647,556
    25 Bleach 53 Tite Kubo 640,938
    26 Black Butler 13 Yana Toboso 638,108
    27 March comes in like a lion 7 Chika Umino 635,166
    28 Attack on Titan 8 Hajime Isayama 624,020
    29 Black Butler 14 Yana Toboso 615,540
    30 Kuroko's Basketball 18 Tadatoshi Fujimaki 601,825
    31 Bleach 56 Tite Kubo 600,915
    32 Kuroko's Basketball 17 Tadatoshi Fujimaki 599,938
    33 Kuroko's Basketball 15 Tadatoshi Fujimaki 599,566
    34 One Piece Blue Deep Characters World Original Creator: Eiichiro Oda 595,550
    35 Kuroko's Basketball 19 Tadatoshi Fujimaki 587,550
    36 Fairy Tail 30 Hiro Mashima 586,015
    37 We Were There 16 Yuuki Obata 584,477
    38 Kuroko's Basketball 16 Tadatoshi Fujimaki 582,307
    39 Fairy Tail 32 Hiro Mashima 581,767
    40 Bakuman. 16 Story: Tsugumi Ohba
    Art: Takeshi Obata 571,291
    41 Detective Conan (Case Closed) 74 Gosho Aoyama 565,901
    42 Silver Spoon 1 Hiromu Arakawa 561,466
    43 Detective Conan (Case Closed) 76 Gosho Aoyama 556,179
    44 Bakuman. 17 Story: Tsugumi Ohba
    Art: Takeshi Obata 548,148
    45 D.Gray-man 23 Katsura Hoshino 542,903
    46 Jojolion (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 8) 1 Hirohiko Araki 534,996
    47 Bakuman. 18 Story: Tsugumi Ohba
    Art: Takeshi Obata 534,838
    48 Silver Spoon 5 Hiromu Arakawa 526,022
    49 Detective Conan (Case Closed) 77 Gosho Aoyama 524,328
    50 Thermae Romae V Mari Yamazaki 521,929

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  15. #4475

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post
    I see..Based off this new list it must be the anime that increased the sales for it. People went back to buy the old volumes.
    Prety much what I assumed before that even came up. Its easier to boost the sales of a series by getting people to buy the backlog of series than just buying new volumes because 10 people buying 15 volumes each is more volumes sold than 30 people buying 4 volumes each. Stuff like this is a temporary boost that will fade away. It's the same as how One Piece has fell so much in total sales because it's backlog sold in huge quantities around the strong world period. the top 100 individual volumes is far more important in judging the strength of a series because those numbers are more indicative of long term trends

  16. #4476

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto D Luffy View Post
    How exactly is Kuroko's Basketball so high when it barely makes in the top 5 rankings in WSJ?

    Is this an invalid number?

    I would expected Toriko to be in that spot.
    Kuroko has a strong core fanbase of female fandom. (not all fujoshi, but high percentage)
    They are a large consumer base, but they aren't a majority of WSJ readership that participates in polls.
    There are very involved core-fans that religiously send in those polls, but the overall number is still just minority compared to millions of boys.

    But volume purchase is different, adults and core-fans tend to cast their support by buying the books, unlike say, a 10 year old boy.


    BTW, the saftey-net of sales that you can discount polls entirely is 500k initial print per volume.
    If Bleach dips like 10~20% lower than it is now, then it WILL actually start to be subjected to poll counts.

    Man, it dipped faster than I expected.


    As for Magi.... 2012 sales > total of all Magi sales previous to 2012.
    Anime boost FOR THE WIN.

  17. #4477

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Maam View Post
    It saddens me that something as derivative and soulless as Fairy Tail gets these sorts of numbers even in Japan :/
    I guarantee you that fan service plays a BIG part in the series' sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonicpoodle View Post
    I imagine this board with it's near-unanimous love of Magi is all quite happy It eludes me why Kuroko's Basketball is so popular. I've never read it so I can't really comment on that, though.
    I freaking love Magi, I saw the first episode and saw there was a manga, got hooked, I spent a day reading every chapter, one of my favourite series to read rigth now, its good to see it do well.

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  19. #4479

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szaz View Post
    Huh,Naruto sold WAY less than last year.
    Naruto 2011 = 6,874,840

    Naruto 2012 = 6,495,240

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    ^Huh again,I could have sworn that it was 9 million.

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