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    Quote Originally Posted by !Volpe View Post
    http://lh5.ggpht.com/-EV3fKUkkfr0/Tq.../9543470_a.JPG
    So, it's the end of Enigma in WSJ. Not sure if this was the last chapter. ( Maybe they'll do it something like Shinigami)
    Yes, it's over.
    It says the final conclusion chapter (and popularity poll results) will be on the Jump extra edition in December.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bad_Lith View Post
    Enigma had a horrible first couple of pages, but got better and better, until the endgame of he school arc. Then things just got really stupid. After that, it's been pointlessly confusing and dumb, and I'm not surprised to see it go.
    No offense to the fans, but IMO, it started out as absolute crap, and only improved slightly over the course of the arc.
    It went from terribly written to sub-mediocre, and never came even close to standard I expect from a WSJ manga.

    I stopped reading long ago, so I don't know how downhill it went in the second arc.
    I can't imagine it being much worse than it already was.

    The woman can draw, but can't write character interaction and believable characterization worth CRAP.
    She needs to pair up with a decent writer and go the Death Note/Bakuman pair routine.
    (Obata had the similar problem too, although not nearly as severe, but became extremely successful when he paired up with a good writer for Hikaru no Go, and the rest is history)

    I would go as far as saying she's well below Kubo and Oh Great level.
    Those two can't write either, but at least they got excellent skills in characterization. (not to mention skill in art)
    I personally believe Kubo and Oh Great could be godly only if they put aside their pride and teamed up with a good writer.
    Last edited by Aohige_AP; October 28th, 2011 at 10:53 AM.

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    Sigh, Amano, Rumiko, and now the Enigma author Sakaki. Has there ever been a good female shonen mangaka? The only one that came close to good was Hoshino's work and that became a mess too. Please, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    Yes, it's over.
    No offense to the fans, but IMO, it started out as absolute crap, and only improved slightly over the course of the arc.
    It went from terribly written to sub-mediocre, and never came even close to standard I expect from a WSJ manga. .
    To be fair, there are quite a few manga IN jump that don't meet its standard either.
    Last edited by TLC; October 28th, 2011 at 11:02 AM. Reason: Oh wow, Sakaki was the assistant to Amano. That explains a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousand Lion-chan View Post
    Sigh, Amano, Rumiko, and now the Enigma author Sakaki. Has there ever been a decent good shonen mangaka? The only one that came close to good was Hoshino's work and that became a mess too. Please, anyone?
    Do you mean FEMALE shounen mangaka?

    Rumiko Takahashi was godly back in Urusei Yatsura, One Pound Gospel, Mermaid seires, and Maison Ikkoku. Granted, MI was seinen manga.
    She just became a mess when she resorted to systematically pumping out cliche shounen to keep franchise alive. Her original works were ground-breaking.

    As for good female mangaka.... let's not forget the godly Arakawa of Full Metal Alchemist shall we?
    She wrote one of the best shounen manga..... ever in history of shounen manga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    Do you mean FEMALE shounen mangaka?

    Rumiko Takahashi was godly back in Urusei Yatsura, One Pound Gospel, Mermaid seires, and Maison Ikkoku. Granted, MI was seinen manga.
    She just became a mess when she resorted to systematically pumping out cliche shounen to keep franchise alive. Her original works were ground-breaking.

    As for good female mangaka.... let's not forget the godly Arakawa of Full Metal Alchemist shall we?
    She wrote one of the best shounen manga..... ever in history of shounen manga.
    Yeah FEMALE mangaka. Oh yeah, Arakawa! I can't believe she slipped my mind. Yeah, FMA was a great shonen. Still that's only one, two mangaka total out of tons of them. Shonen really is a man's world.
    Last edited by TLC; October 28th, 2011 at 11:02 AM. Reason: Though to be fair how many male shoujo mangaka are there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bad_Lith View Post
    Enigma had a horrible first couple of pages, but got better and better, until the endgame of he school arc. Then things just got really stupid. After that, it's been pointlessly confusing and dumb, and I'm not surprised to see it go.

    also, I really hope Mirror World can get better. It's by the author of Mx0, which was great, and I want to support him.

    on the flip side, I thought Double Arts was mediocre in the extreme, and don't expect much from that author's new series.
    Blasphemy. I cast you out of the group of good tastes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousand Lion-chan View Post
    Yeah FEMALE mangaka. Oh yeah, Arakawa! I can't believe she slipped my mind. Yeah, FMA was a great shonen. Still that's only one, two mangaka total out of tons of them. Shonen really is a man's world.
    Well.... yeah. It's an industry of boy's comic book, lol. Naturally it's gonna be male oriented in creators.

    Just like the opposite is true, there's very few male shoujo manga artists worth crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    Well.... yeah. It's an industry of boy's comic book, lol. Naturally it's gonna be male oriented in creators.

    Just like the opposite is true, there's very few male shoujo manga artists worth crap.
    XD Suddenly I'm getting an image of a muscle bound man in a studio drawing pages of a Card Captor Sakura-like manga.

    I also think the author of D.Gray-man wasn't doing too bad the last time I read it though I haven't really kept up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    XD Suddenly I'm getting an image of a muscle bound man in a studio drawing pages of a Card Captor Sakura-like manga.

    I also think the author of D.Gray-man wasn't doing too bad the last time I read it though I haven't really kept up with it.
    The artist of Holy Land and currently running Suicide Island is a muscle-bound, street fighter martial artist who also have experience in lots of survival camping.

    Very manly man man.

    ...... yet all his protagonists look and act homo.


    Go figure. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    XD Suddenly I'm getting an image of a muscle bound man in a studio drawing pages of a Card Captor Sakura-like manga.

    I also think the author of D.Gray-man wasn't doing too bad the last time I read it though I haven't really kept up with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    The artist of Holy Land and currently running Suicide Island is a muscle-bound, street fighter martial artist who also have experience in lots of survival camping.

    Very manly man man.

    ...... yet all his protagonists look and act homo.


    Go figure. >.>


    Yeah, this screams steroids right there

  10. #2930

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    Oh Great better team up with Kazuo Koike or Buronson or Hiroki Endo. I would read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thousand Lion-chan View Post
    Though to be fair how many male shoujo mangaka are there?
    The author of Patarilo, one of the longest running and successful shoujo manga ever, is male.

    Doesn't draw anything like a guy, so a lot of people didn't know this though.

    Funny thing is, he's actually one of the first people to popularize the yaoi fad. And it came from a guy. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    The author of Patarilo, one of the longest running and successful shoujo manga ever, is male.

    Doesn't draw anything like a guy, so a lot of people didn't know this though.
    There's a distinct "way" that each gender draws ?

    That one's new to me.

  13. #2933

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Maam View Post
    There's a distinct "way" that each gender draws ?

    That one's new to me.
    I don't know how to describe it exactly, but there usually is a way to tell. I remember one day reading Girls Saurus, and I was surprised to learn was done by a female, but when I looked back at the drawings, I could actually see how the drawings differed from most other series drawn by guys.
    Last edited by Zack; October 28th, 2011 at 11:19 AM. Reason: Bah. Screw trying to keep the manga secret.

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    Can any1 that read Kagami explain to me why this shit doesn't get cancelled?Sorry if I offended your taste but fuck me.........
    Theories : Buggy will become a shichibukai just cuz of the Impel Down lvl 6 prisioners behind him, Moria is alive but in a coma, Ivankov will find Sabo in the New World as 1 of the Rev. Army commanders, next nakama is a fishman something like a Great White

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    Females tend to be more stylistic and soft and abstract in their expression of the art while males are more direct and energetic with more scenes that leave an impact. At least that's from my experience.

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    Enigma is gone? Good riddance. One competitor less for ST&RS and Niseikoi. I guess, this is the extent of how far you can get in Jump being the wife of Usuta.

    Quote Originally Posted by chihirou View Post
    I can assure you that Shuueisha ain't doing a thing and Ohana and T were just unlucky to buy Jump in the very same store, in the middle of nowhere, where the majority, if not all the scanlators, used to buy it. I know the exact reason why neither of them could get their copy. I don't want to speak of the reason publicly, though.
    Don't T and ohana live in different parts of Japan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bad_Lith View Post
    also, I really hope Mirror World can get better. It's by the author of Mx0, which was great, and I want to support him.

    on the flip side, I thought Double Arts was mediocre in the extreme, and don't expect much from that author's new series.
    No you didn't.

    Although, I thought even less of Mx0, so, perhaps, you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by THE SEA View Post
    Oh Great better team up with Kazuo Koike or Buronson or Hiroki Endo. I would read.
    That would be a real gamble: the end result would be either a giant symbolical phylosophy study or a full-on porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aohige_AP View Post
    The artist of Holy Land and currently running Suicide Island is a muscle-bound, street fighter martial artist who also have experience in lots of survival camping.

    Very manly man man.
    Would have never guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade View Post

    That would be a real gamble: the end result would be either a giant symbolical phylosophy study or a full-on porn.
    Or a combination of both. Porn for philosophers philosophizing about porn.

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    I don't know what chihirou is talking about, T and ohana buys their Jump at different stores.
    They themselves have said this already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    XD Suddenly I'm getting an image of a muscle bound man in a studio drawing pages of a Card Captor Sakura-like manga.

    I also think the author of D.Gray-man wasn't doing too bad the last time I read it though I haven't really kept up with it.
    The first 150 chapters of D. Gray-man were pretty great IMO. Then it declined and became really weird. It always had issues (Allen was too perfect, I never liked Kanda, the action was a bit hard to follow) but at least it was fun back in the day. It's not really a bad series but it has declined pretty badly.

    And never, ever, ever, ever forget Arakawa. She is indeed quite godly.

    Only other female mangaka I can think of is Kazue Kato of Ao no Exorcist. She wasn't very good either. I thought that series was pretty mediocre honestly, it just didn't move well, with little in the way of interesting conflict. Shame too, because I thought the major characters were likable enough and it did have a cool premise.

    I hate to say it, but TLC's right, there is only one good female Shonen mangaka that I can think of. Of course there's a lot of terrible male Shonen mangaka as well.

    And Enigma's cancelled? Didn't read it but I'm not surprised considering how poorly it did in the rankings for such a long time.
    My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.

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    Yellow Tanabe was a good shonen mangaka. Would Hotta Yomi of Hikaru no Go count as a mangaka?

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