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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    I hate to devalue (is that even a word?) anybody's opinion, but I have to agree with this a little. A couple of years ago, everyone was hating on the prequels and saying George Lucas ruined Star Wars, but suddenly, now that there is a new scapegoat in town, they weren't all that bad and George Lucas was at least trying something interesting? It just seems a little fickle to me.
    Or maybe they weren't? Maybe the voices of those who hated them were louder, just like the voices of those who hate (and love) these new ones are loud too. Is it really that hard to believe that the adults on this forum have the opinion they're telling you?

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    I appreciate that Rise of Skywalker has made me entertain the idea of Sheev fucking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
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    I appreciate that Rise of Skywalker has made me entertain the idea of Sheev fucking.
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    Judging by how young Rey's parents looked ~15 years post-ROTJ, it's statistically more likely than not that Sheev was spreading his seed after the attempt on his life left him scarred and deformed...

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    Mhh, Sheev seeds, time to change the subject.

    I saw the Chewie medal scene just like the Millenium Falcon dice handover in TLJ. What is that item? Does it mean anything? I never noticed those in the previous six movies.

    Those scenes are the definition of superfluous fan pandering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan D. Funk View Post
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    I appreciate that Rise of Skywalker has made me entertain the idea of Sheev fucking.
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    What about Triclops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Or maybe they weren't? Maybe the voices of those who hated them were louder, just like the voices of those who hate (and love) these new ones are loud too. Is it really that hard to believe that the adults on this forum have the opinion they're telling you?
    It's always the case that the one who dislike something are the loudest, but that doesn't change the fact that the prequels were generally not well-received. I mean, is this really up for debate? Also, I don't know what being an adult has anything to do with anything, but I didn't say that anybody was lying about his or her opinions, just that it feels a little strange that suddenly, everybody seems to be praising the apparent strengths of the prequels now that there are new movies to hate.

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    It's so easy to snark and nitpick on this movie that you may feel just sad about the whole ordeal. About as easy (and a somewhat popular belief by now) is to point how little humanity you can find or relate to, with what is an enjoyable ride tasked to deliver more than it could have ever conceivably done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    It's always the case that the one who dislike something are the loudest, but that doesn't change the fact that the prequels were generally not well-received. I mean, is this really up for debate? Also, I don't know what being an adult has anything to do with anything, but I didn't say that anybody was lying about his or her opinions, just that it feels a little strange that suddenly, everybody seems to be praising the apparent strengths of the prequels now that there are new movies to hate.
    You were responding to a couple posters in this forum that you thought it was weird we preferred the prequels to the sequels because lots of people hated the prequels 15 years ago. I'm just pointing out that this is a mostly 18+ forum and I think most of us are well beyond liking or hating things for edginess sake. It's natural for opinions to change over 15 years, and its natural that the more uncommon opinions will come out 15 years later. It's also makes a lot of sense that if people hate the sequels they'd be doing so on the basis of comparison with the prequels and OT. If they find things they like about the prequels through rewatches, then I don't see the problem? Also Member Berries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    , the dialogue was atrocious,
    While the dialog was stilted it was still a lot less corny than what you heard in the original films.


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    The Force Awakens, at the very least, truly captured the feeling of Star Wars for me
    Well FA essentially aped on A New Hope as opposed to trying to be something entirely new.

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    Ian McDiarmid is carrying Revenge on his back, because no one else in the movie seems to be either having fun or wanting to be there.
    I mean given the way the movie ends makes a whole lot of sense.

    - Anakin loses both his legs and gets horrifically scarred (his fault) causes the self fullfilling prophecy he was trying to avoid.
    - Padme dies in childbirth after her husband tries to strangle her to death in addition to hearing about him losing his shit.
    - Mace goes out like a bitch.
    - Obi Wan and Yoda watch as the Emperor, their former student, and their forces wipe out most of the jedi.

    Only people who have any reason to be happy is the Emperor even with Mace fucking his shit up and maybe Boba Fett still nursing hurt feelings over watching his dad get killed by a Jedi.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    I hate to devalue (is that even a word?) anybody's opinion, but I have to agree with this a little. A couple of years ago, everyone was hating on the prequels and saying George Lucas ruined Star Wars, but suddenly, now that there is a new scapegoat in town, they weren't all that bad and George Lucas was at least trying something interesting? It just seems a little fickle to me.
    No one's opinions changed, not really. No one suddenly thinks the dialogue is good, or the acting is good, or George's directing is good. And they also have a lot of good in them. And one good thing in them - that no one really paid any attention to, because you wouldn't really, until the sequel trilogy came out - is the consistency. Good or bad, George had a vision. This was the fall of Anakin, and rise of the empire, and he carried that story out.

    The original trilogy came out, and it was just a story of good vs evil, and a son redeeming his father. Then the prequels came out, and added the prophecy layer to it - which I'm fine with. The empire was defeated, the story of the Skywalker's was complete, and though its finer details are still hazy, the prophesy was fulfilled. And then the sequel trilogy came, and no one really planned ahead, and it failed to justify its existence in my eyes. Without being too spoilery, the last act of this film is just a rehash ROTJ, which is mind-blowing.

    George was always a good story man. I would have liked a story by him, but with someone else writing it. Bring on the Whills, I don't care.

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    Snoke should've been Plagueis especially since this supposedly ended the Skywalker saga.

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    If Snoke was Plagueis that would have meant that Sidious failed at offing his master. Retroactively making him a failure at basic Sith methodologIy.

    I can't see that going over well with the fandom (as if anything else does...)
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    That would depend on whether Plagueis survived because Sidious didn't do the job properly or if it were because he actually managed to reincarnate himself into Snoke. In the latter case, his current state would have been because the Dark Side inevitably eats away at anybody using it.

    If that were the story, I think most people would have been alright with it.
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    Got to see the movie today. It was pretty meh. For someone reason it felt just okay through the whole thing. The only parts I actually enjoyed were
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    Rey and Ben teleporting stuff to each other it was also the only memorable part to me. Having Ben die felt like a weird cop out. Villains here just don't ever seem to answer for their crimes. Even if he did change sides briefly only Rey knows he did good in the end. But also he's not able to be held accountable for all his crimes. That just kinda bugged me. But like I said before it was just okay. I didn't hate anything about it but I didn't really enjoy it either.

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    It's almost impossible to keep track of everything going on unless you're able to pause every other scene to stop and think about what just happened.
    The movie goes by that fast.

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    Well, it's certainly a
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    film that exists.

    Better than Last Jedi but never really reaches the same level of the first half of The Force Awakens or any of the Lucas films.
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    My view on the film is that it's honestly pretty decent except for the completely unnecessary reveal that doesn't need to be there.

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    Rey doesn't need to be descended from Sheev's Palpenis to be a super powerful Force person. Just have Palpatine be all "Yo this chick is so fucking powerful in the Force that she can do Dark Side shit like it was nothing, bring her to me Kylo, I want to transfer the broken remains of my soul into her and do a bunch of cool Sith shit", it would've turned out exactly the same but without the awful taste in everyone's mouth.


    Beyond that, and Rose getting done dirty and Sheev's return being broadcast over Fortnite as opposed to in the movie, I thought it was fine. Not as good as Last Jedi, better than the last half of Force Awakens, and still leagues better than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones.

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    Sheev's message really needed to have been at the end of The Last Jedi but that would have required this series having a single mind behind it instead of being a mixture of largely half-assed ideas thrown in at the last second and rehashes of older material.
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    Actually, here's a thought: have Sheev's message interrupt the opening crawl.

    Have the fanfare play and role the title, start the crawl with THE REBELLION HAS WON MANY VICTORIES OVER THE FIRST ORDER and then it cuts out like static and Sheev's face appears to make his big announcement.

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