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    So the entire point of all that build up was to kill a mid-level character?


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    I could see it building up to a later fight with Shikamaru and possibly the rest of his team fight Hidan, but otherwise it looks like it was just for that.

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    There really is no difference between Naruto and some generic fihting series anymore, all the plot is utterly bare bones.
    I could plot circles around Kishimoto, Rave Master is more inventive and shocking than this for godsakes.

    Start that mafia story already Kishi...


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    Hmmm, A rogue ninja society? That sounds like it could be interesting in a way. I think the whole world domination thing is not as people make it out to be.

    It seems like he is saying that he want to build a ninja society where ninjas are not obsolute like they are turning out to be.

    The one thing I like about this is the possibility of war. He mentioned it and I have been waiting for a long time to see a ninja war since I first read this series. I doubt they will have Berserk like battle fields but something not 2 far off would be cool. I felt I got a little teaser of that from the Kakashi Gaiden.

    He wants this army, how is he going to recruit? This story could go either way but Kishie have some good ideas but he just doesnt know how to put it together. I hope he thinks of something good to make this less cliche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokaiforte
    so, then. Is it just me or is Naruto making Rasengans using one hand and without clones now?
    it looks like that yes.
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  6. #3506

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    Wait... What were you expecting Akatsuki's goal to be exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo62282
    Hmmm, A rogue ninja society? That sounds like it could be interesting in a way. I think the whole world domination thing is not as people make it out to be.

    It seems like he is saying that he want to build a ninja society where ninjas are not obsolute like they are turning out to be.

    The one thing I like about this is the possibility of war. He mentioned it and I have been waiting for a long time to see a ninja war since I first read this series. I doubt they will have Berserk like battle fields but something not 2 far off would be cool. I felt I got a little teaser of that from the Kakashi Gaiden.

    He wants this army, how is he going to recruit? This story could go either way but Kishie have some good ideas but he just doesnt know how to put it together. I hope he thinks of something good to make this less cliche.
    The problem with the plan is, once they have world domination, what are they gonna do? Ginormous Ninja Wars will either annihilate the entire world, or the need for ninjas will lessen. Again. And they lose their control for at least 10 years. The only way for ninjas to be unobselete is if there are constant periods of war. And when the five huge countries step in, and gain help from Akatsuki, they'll annihilate the smaller countries. Again.

    The idea of mercenaries was a good try though.

    But isn't Akatsuki already a rogue ninja society?

    And he plans to recruit from the villages that are being disassembled. Like the sand village before the Invasion.

    The problem is, seeing how understaffed the leaf village was after the Orochimaru invasion in that they just had to send out Genin to retrieve what Orochimaru wants, and seeing how Leaf is the largest of all, how are all these countries gonna hold up with a huge battle?

    I REALLY hope Kish puts more into making it less Cliche, but well... yea...
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    The idea of world domination as Akatsuki's goals was semi-expected, yet not expected at the same time. I thought Kishimoto could do better than that, but then again, what else can they do? In the end, it all leads up to conquest of the world. Of course, it's not all like that. The Akatsuki Leader had a good plan no doubt, but it is somewhat complicated. It is very possible that Kishimoto can mess up, but so far, the plan has been going somewhat well. I mean we have Kakuzu, the money-lover. He seems to be a very important part of Akatsuki, as he seems to be the most devoted in Akatsuki. Then comes the second new kid, Hidan. It's odd really, as the Akatsuki Leader didn't explain the plan to Hidan. Oh well; it doesn't really matter, since he knowns it know. Hidan is like the tiny interference of the first part of the plan. Actually, I have an odd theory that Hidan was paired with Kakuzu so that he could slowly become a money and killing maniac, instead of just a killing maniac who repeatedly stabs himself just to see his gore. Then comes the mercenary organization part. This is a surprisingly odd idea, and if everything flows well, it can go well if Akatsuki manage to succeed part of their plan. I honestly didn't see this coming, and it was a nice addition to the lame "take over the world plan," although Akatsuki may be going slowly like ancient empires, slowly conquering one area, then another. And then once the countries give in to Akatsuki's help, they basically rule. It's a complex, well-thought out plan, but whether or not Kishimoto can make it flow depends on him. He seems to be taking a break for a week, so he may be trying to think of something good. That's just my opinion though.

    And here's someone else's opinion. The man has a bachelor's degree, working for his master's and is incredibly intelligent. I'm sure most of you would agree with him:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich
    So, the Akatsuki Leader has a three-step plan for world domination. That's nice, it's moderately well thought out and even has a contingency or two involved (ie. bijuu power). At the very lest this plan serves as clear indication that the AL is not the 4th Hokage since, it would be much easier to begin this kind of plan already controlling a ninja village than from their present position. he also manages to come off as a fairly sane megolomaniac, which is refreshing since every other villian in Naruto is a complete nutcase. However, I, and apparently others, can't seem to shake the feeling that its all so mundane. Like, oh, ho-hum, plan to conquer the world using some moderately creative politics and a bunch of demons. Given the Naruto universe's poltical underdevelopment this idea is certain to be grossly simplified.

    The important part seems to be that, while the AL intends on global domination its highly doubtful that his minions share that particular goal. Hidan obviously doesn't, Kakuzu is only in it for the money (possibly to finance his depraved researches), Itachi doesn't seem like the world domination type either, and Deidara's a wackjob artist. Kisame's a sadist along for the ride, and Zetsu is well, Zetsu, so exactly how many of the Akatsuki members actually care about the big overarching goal?

    The training piece, ah, whatever, it's nice, but it's overshadowed by all the rest of the stuff in the chapter. One important piece of it though: apparently Naruto's clones can go tailed Kyuubi now. This is, to say the least, very scary. What would happen if they all went even one-tail? Can the Kyuubi's chakra even support something like that?

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    But the main factor is...
    Who cares anymore?


  10. #3510

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    AH HA HA HA! Naruto filler.

    Spoiler:




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    Thickest neck :O EVER.

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    Here's some fun copypasta (altered) from Wikipedia's entry on Archer of Fate/stay night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    The Akatsuki Leader is actually an adult Naruto Uzumaki, the main character of Naruto. He was ultimately the Fifth Hokage, and is a living incarnation of the "Ninja Way". The Underworld, which preserves the souls of all Epic Spirits, exists outside of any conventional timeline, so Naruto can be reincarnated from any point in history. The resurrection jutsu Sakura used as a catalyst in Naruto's summoning was simmilar to the healing jutsu she used to save Naruto's life.

    His history differs from Naruto in many of the specific storylines, making him more of an alternate incarnation of the Naruto in the current timeline rather than directly being his future form, although he is most similar to the version who progressed through the pilot chapter. Naruto remains the former Master of Gamabunta, but there is a strong possiblity that Kyuubi was never removed from his body. He cares deeply for Moegi, and his inability to prevent her death one year after the war's end is his greatest regret. At one point in his future life, Naruto finds himself incapable of saving the lives of several hundred people; to change the course of their destinies, he forges a pact with the world, whereby in exchange for a miracle he is obligated to posthumously and indefinitely serve humanity in the afterlife. Later, one of those spared hundred from another village uses him as a political scapegoat, executing Naruto under the accusations of war crimes for wanton violence and destruction.

    Throughout his ninja career, Naruto struggles with the same doubt his father, The Fourth Hokage, acknowledged many years before; when the life of one person is saved, another person must be left to die. Naruto fights in several future battles, and he is horrified to discover himself needlessly slaughtering countless numbers of the nefarious and innocent alike. In time, the once idealistic Naruto comes to the pessimistic conclusion that attempting to preserve all human life is futile, for the few must be sacrificed for the survival of the many. Accepting this concept frustrates Naruto, for it betrays his life's conviction and renders his selfless dedication to defending mankind worthless.

    Broken, bitter, and angry, Naruto gracefully accepts his death, gambling his afterlife on the small hope of being summoned as a zombie during the Chuunin Exams. His rationale is to kill his younger self and cause a time paradox, which Naruto hopes will spare himself the anguish of realizing his ideals are a sham, even at a cost of ripping the fabric of reality asunder.
    Ironically, I was the one who wrote the original article I just bastardized.
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    Gai's a mushroom. And Kurenai needs to cut down on the sweets.
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    I was looking at Shueisha releases, and it looks like volume 35 doesn't have the same bland white background.

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    Is that really Kurenai? When I first saw it I thought it was Sasuke or some other guy dressed up as her.

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  16. #3516

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    The Naruto fanbase sure is disgruntled. I remember back in 2002 when the series was considered the shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Casey
    The Naruto fanbase sure is disgruntled. I remember back in 2002 when the series was considered the shit.
    Unfortuantely even then they were disgruntled... Heck back when the Sasuke Retrival arc was in the manga they were complaining that it was moving too slow despite now saying that it's one of the best arc's in the series.

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    The fact that he even delayed that goal for so long makes me think it's a decoy. I doubt that's their tru motive. If it were so, why do they need the 9 demons? Just to take over nations? COMEON we all saw how powerful these ninja are. What's the real goal for these folk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethos
    Unfortuantely even then they were disgruntled... Heck back when the Sasuke Retrival arc was in the manga they were complaining that it was moving too slow despite now saying that it's one of the best arc's in the series.
    Part of the reason was that at the time, it really was pretty slow.
    I don't find the arc nearly as tedious after looking back at it, but while it was going, we had to wait for a pretty long time without much happening and then there was barely any payoff at the end.

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    What's the real goal for these folk?
    something far grander than world domination


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