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    The reason the death in the one we got are bad aren't necesarilly the choice but if those were going to be the survivors than the others should have gotten the focus. Most of those who die were supporting chracters in the plots.

    If you are going to kill them it should not be the case. You should butter them up so that when they die you feel you've known them for so long.

    The guardians were sidekicks, Strange and Spiderman were nice but not that crazy present, everyone with Cap doesn't do much.

    You can make a movie were everyone is in it, the usuals stars are the supporting and then in the next instalment they go out with a bang.

    I don't like when people try to have their cake and eat it to.
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    But basically every survivor should have someone they lost(it depends a bit for cap), half the guardians should be around(Nebula(for Gomora), Groot or Rocket, Peter), Mantis should die, Thor could be dead or not( he does have the armor), Hawkeye need to be there.


    I'm iffy on Black widow because she could use the time but I feel she should die for Hawkeye to have a dead person we care about. War Machine can't survive if Tony is there and you can't kill all your black character. Someone important should survive in each group. So the sister of Black panther should be cheap enough for them while having a lost we care. Guardians is to big to not have at least 2.

    Cap has to survive, the rest of the avengers doesn't (except Wanda for Vision) but I feel everyone that was with Cap could use more exposure.
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    OR if Tony survive

    The survivors should be:
    Cap: barely did anything needs exposure.

    Tony: He loses both spiderman and War machine. War machine is Iron man bis so he shouldn't be there and the long history make the loss important.

    Bucky:Falcon is better sacrifice to Cap because you care for there friendship in winter soldier while no one cares for Bucky. It's actually a chance to improve on that relation.

    Peter Quill: Thanos escape thanks to him he should get to prove himself.

    Groot: Nice chance to have him grow up from moody teenager by having his dad die. But Rocket is fine also

    Black panther: You need to kill one of the 2 siblings. The sister is not needed with Tony and Black Panther barely did stuff. but you can switch them if you want

    Falcon: You need a black guy and there's an irony to keeping both cap friends while Tony loses both since Tony usually is the one to get everything.

    HAwkeye: needs the exposure.
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    The survivors should be:
    Cap: barely did anything needs exposure.

    Spiderman: lose menthor, has to step to the big league(continues his arc), great when Tony return to see how great he did

    Bucky:Falcon is better sacrifice to Cap because you care for there friendship in winter soldier while no one cares for Bucky. It's actually a chance to improve on that relation.

    Peter Quill: Thanos escape thanks to him he should get to prove himself.

    Groot: Nice chance to have him grow up from moody teenager by having his dad die. But Rocket is fine also

    The bodyguard & Sister: You need to kill one of the 2 siblings. The sister will be easy to put in the lab to not have to much a crowd. You can kill the body guard also.

    War machine: You need a black guy and he has friendship with Tony we cared for

    HAwkeye: needs the exposure.
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    Well the plot of Homecoming is basically Peter understanding that he is not ready for the big league. It's not I sucked at spiderman, it's I shouldn't take on Thanos or Green Goblin. He is a neighberhood superhero.

    It irks me evrytime spiderman try to swing but he can't because it has nothing to do with the movie it's just tongue-in-cheek "yeah spiderman whould never work in the suburbs". It's taking away an aspect of the chracter that wouldn't hinder the film and help the escapism for no reason.

    Batman Begins has Batman origins but also Batman Batmaning. Doctor Strange sucks, but then he is great with magic. Iron is testing system than he is a badass in middleeast. No origin movie take place in that stupid period where you suck and that's why I say Homecoming take place in the period no movie goes to .
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    The armor definitely came out of nowhere but that movie does zero build up on many things and god I love that armor to much to question. And let's be serious the guy synthesize an element that should be unable to be synthesized in 10 minutes from a map. I'll block my brain to that stupidity if I get that armor.
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    The proble with Homecoming having a Peter that sucks is that it has nothing to do with the story. He doesn't have to learn a new web trick to defeat his opponent or grow his power. It's about his mentality. So the movie is like watching IM 1 if Tony sucked at the armor all the way to fighting Iron monger. Or if Strange kept screwing up against Dormamu or if Cap was still sliding off while running to Red skull.


    It is a stupid thing because learning your power is a plot. Trying to achieve something is a plot. Failing at something should either be a conflict or a plot. Siperderman suck at spiderman but it's not a conflict or a plot. It's just his current level of skill.

    And it is simply a bad choice to make a character that is not yet formed faced his first challenge because it not yet the character.

    It sucks because the reason he is bad at spiderman has nothing to do with the plot and is an unacessary barrier to escapism.
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    A good I'm trying to understand my power movie makes it the point of the movie. Flash season 1 doesn't get what he can do. But that's because that learning curve is the plot of the season.

    We spend a time with Iron Man building his suit and testing the system. But once he is in you don't spend time watching him fail while he is in mission. He doesn't accidently blow the house rather than the rebels or goofily fly off.

    Doctor Strange (the most interesting well handled origin story in my opinion) has time on Strange learning magic but during that part it is the focus. It is about him accepting that world and making you understand how hard he is trying. The plot is not going while he is learning.
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    Speaking about Homecoming. I said he was in the period that every movie is smart enough to skip and I'm going to explain what I mean.

    But first let me put a disclaimer that even if they did it right I still wouldn't like it because Ultron gave us a Spiderman that did not need an origin story. He is already formed. And that spiderman that stopped the car in the video and playefully blocked Bucky arm and came up with the plan for Ant-man is not a novice. And I was interested in that spiderman not I'm still trying to understand what I'm doing spiderman.
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    But damn it he is great in this movie and it is the first time since IM 1 that he is that compelling. The armor is awesome(cap armor is crap), the character seems like an actual grown-up, the acting is good, the payoff to the arc since Avengers is great and while not as great than if he died it is interesting to hve his protégé die for something he was preparing for a decade. He failed and he actually is only one of the 2 person I'm not to mad were not snapped. I'm not totally happy(he should swap with Peter) but I am actually not annoyed and am interested in seeing more of that Iron man.
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